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Which Mega Man will come out on top?

X vs Geo

Speed Equalized, X era X is being used, Post-Game Starforce 3 Geo is being used

X has access to all of his armors and Geo has access to all of his forms.

Battle being take place at the moon (Volnutt in the background cheering on btw).

Megaman X 4
You may not look like one, but I feel that you may be a maverick!

Geo Stelar
You don't seem to be an EM-Wave Virus, but you look like any other enemy out here trying to kill me. Let's go Omega-Xis!

Geo - 7 (Tarta, Crimson, Boogie, Zero, Axiom, Toni, Maverick)
X - 0
 
This is pretty tricky

X, more broken power set and more experience. While AZ likely wouldn't work, X could win via time, soul and maybe data manip if he has Dark Elf. He should also be able to see Geo since he can see Cyber Elves, who are made of Data like Geo and honestly have better data manip than he does. Also, with X being unharmed by 1.2 kilofoe attacks, even in base, and having many armor abilities that amplify his durability, he should be able to tank a few attacks from Geo. Really, the only advantages Geo has are power, teleportation and better environmental manipulation. X's intangibility can likely work against cyber elves (seeing as Zero's can in MMZ with the Phase Chip), so he likely has that over Geo.

X 6-7/10. Aside from the stuff I labeled, he has everything going for him, including experience, intelligence (Geo's smart, but X has data from the smartest scientist of his era), versatility, and more effective hax (specifically time, soul and data manip). Even if Geo himself has time manip, he isn't resistant to it and X would no-sell it

This is pretty though for me though, I could be persuaded either way.
 
X era X doesn't have the Dark Elf nor feats to see invisible beings. Hence why the OP said X era X. Also Geo's Star Forces, Tribe Forms, and his Noise Transformations are just like X's armor that boosts his attack, speed, and durability too. Also you forgot his thousands of battle cards that X needs to worry about. Just a thought.
 
He's still the same person in terms of his eyes, so he should be able to see invisible beings by X8. Although if this was MMZ X I'd give it to him far more comfortably.

Yes, but far more incrementally. He doesn't have something that halves damage, for example

I didn't forget, and trust me, this is hard for me. But while X's abilities aren't quite as varied, I feel his hax is much more viable here still
 
I guess you can say that. However his MMZ abilities aren't present here period so we can't use them.

And X doesn't have something that can turn you into living data (without the elf) or give him Mu technology.

Geo's hax is just as deadly as X's tbh. Sure different, but still can put a man on his knees. Plus there's Status Ailments and the AP advantage (I believe Geo is on a higher Solar System level than X, or at least the better feat).
 
Calc wise yeah, but X has a much more casual level and several stuff that halves damage, so he can tank a few hits from Geo IMO
 
Well, X can hurt non tangible beings and beings made of data. He has parts that allow him to erase the traces of the Sigma virus from X5 onwards, and he can damage and defeat Sigma's virus form in X2 during their fight.

In X4 X can also go into Cyberspace and fight programs and cyber defenses with no issue.

That said, I don't really see how X can defeat Geo. This is a stomp in Geo's favor at worst and inconclusive at best. With his armors and hax X could avoid Geo thanks of the likes of Dark Hold and Infinite Ammo, but he can't do anything to Geo, while Geo has a huge AP advantage even if he doesn't have Haxes that can one shot X, he gets one clean hit in and is over.
 
Yeah I'll go with him for now.

X can stall, and perhaps use Absolute Zero (Geo doesn't have resistance to it according to his profile), but Geo can one shot with most of his arsenal. X could pull a win in specific conditions, but otherwise Geo has much better chances consistently.

EDIT: X also has a huge experience advantage, so that would also help to fight smart and not get killed right away, but still won't change the AP difference.
 
Eh, I'll play devil's advocate for a bit, seeing mah boy X will be slaughtered in a couple of days in Death Battle (likely Geo will kill him there anyways).

There is a way X can close the AP gap defensively, though it depends on how much Geo can boost his own power. Namely, if composite X era is accepted then X can use an armor part, the Shock Absorber Chip, the Golden Armor Head Chip and the X Drive.

Namely, the Armor, Shock Absorber and Golden Head Chip each halve damage and can be used together, while the X Drive doubles all of X capabilities (except for shot charge speed which is quadrupled). This would mean that the AP difference would fall from x100 to around x1.56, add the invulnerability of the Nova Strike (which he can almost spam X8 Ultimate Armor) and the Hyper Dash chip (which in theory would no longer be bypassed by an AP difference) and X actually could take Geo's attacks.

Though, X still can't scratch Geo and this also depends a lot of whether Geo can multiply his own AP and by how much. Likely Geo can still crush X, but at least let's try to put up a fight. =P

There are just a couple of haxes I can think of that could work for X: the Crystal Hunter which transforms enemies into brittle crystals (and the charged version gives X bullet time perception), perhaaaaaaaaps Absolute Zero (Geo's profile doesn't exactly list resistance to it, it says he can take very low temperatures without issues) and especially Dark Hold, which thanks to X8 ultimate armor becomes an indefinite Time Stop. I dunno if Acid could damage Geo. The Icarus Armor also allows X to disable shields, so at least his attack can connect, even if they don't do much.
 
I'll stay neutral for a bit for now, at least until a bit more input for Geo's own capabilities and whether my attempt of defense for X hold up or not.
 
Geo will likely be upgraded to 4-A but I will leave a comment, just in case.

Geo should win this. The current Solar System feat is for a passive Sirius, which Geo base/Incomplete Noise resists without much problem. Also, SBA on effect, Geo starts on his strongest form (Black Ace/Red Joker) which should be more than capable of one-shotting X casually. Geo on Red Joker form especifically likely could destroy X passively, considering that casual Dread Lazer from Joker was able to transform Club Strong into scattered EM Radiation and Geo passively release Dread Lazer-like "flames" on Red Joker form.
 
Honestly even tho X has a laundry list of hax, I doubt it'll help him considering the massive AP difference plus you can only stall against an opponent for so long when speed is equal. Geo FRA.
 
@Axiom: And to be honest, Geo can resist most of X haxes so he can't one shot quickly that way either.

@Zero: How much do Geo's forms increase his power? I did mention that with the right setup X can reduce the damage from x100 to x1.5, but if Geo can simply double his damage output this once again becomes pretty one sided especially with the passives you mentioned.

I guess we can discuss the fight in the meanwhile Geo's upgrade to 4-A goes through.
 
@Tarta

There isn't any statement with numbers but here we go. It was stated that when Noise becames Crimson, the energy output is dozens of times the original input. When Acid Ace and Joker self-destructed, Mr. King absorbed their entire power, dozens of times stronger into Meteor G. On post-game, Sirius transfered his entire power into Meteor Server, by BN standards, more data also means more power, so Meteor G likely got the power not only from Sirius, but everyone revived by him. Later, when Crimson Dragon ejected Mr. King out, it became so strong that one-shotted Geo with a roar. Geo after entering on Finalised Noise, one-shotted Crimson Dragon with his stronger attack.

So Finalised Noise Geo should be a multiple times stronger than base Base/Incomplete Noise Geo.

Feel free to ask anything about it.
 
@Zero: Dozens? Ouch. Heh, don't worry about it. I did say I was playing devil's advocate for X.

Switching back to Geo then. Though raises the question, isn't this too stompy right now? It's only going to get worse when Geo goes into 4-A.
 
Well if you go on the thread, people are saying a black hole as big as Sagittarius A* wouldn't be 4-A which is bullshit imo. Sagittarius A* dwarfs our solar system by 100x if we take astronomy into account and not calcs.
 
Being 100x bigger than our Solar System isn't much, Sagittarius A* would need to be 4.22 light years long to be 4-A iirc.
 
Yeah, the tier page mentions the distance between Solar Systems is considered before the jump from 4-B to 4-A. Once you hit outer space, the magnitudes between tiers is enormous.

But still, even if Geo doesn't reach 4-A he would still move quite a bit further up in 4-B won't he? Wouldn't the x100 AP gap still increase noticeably?

@Crimson: How many lightyears (if any) would a distance equal to x100 the size of our Solar System would be?
 
TartaChocholate said:
@Crimson: How many lightyears (if any) would a distance equal to x100 the size of our Solar System would be?
Saggitarious A* has a 22 million kilometer radious, which equals to 2,325401835e-6 light years. Aka not a lot.
 
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