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One Piece Post-Timeskip Scaling and Calcs

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Quite a few calcs have been remade in the light of certain errors being discovered in previous calcs, this means that a lot of the current scaling chains for Post-Timeskip characters are obsolete and require a thorough examination. Here is a rough list of all the calcs to take into consideration.

So, based on these calcs (and any others if anyone has any available), we need to figure out a new scaling chain for quite a lot of Post-Timeskip characters.
 
The Birdcage, Aokiji's Ice Ace and arguably Fujitora's Meteors feats should directly scale Doflamingo, Fujitora himself and Gear 4th Luffy, for then scale everyone comparable or stronger than them.

Flower Hill and Hot Sea Hell's feats should directly scale Golem Pica, Oven, Post Timeskip Zoro and Post Timeskip Sanji, for then scale everyone comparable or stronger than them.


Also, speaking about Post Timeskip there is still Chinjao Split feat that need to be calced as see how much its high.
 
With the new values the scaling chain is closer. Now no one should doubt about someone scaling to Aokiji's ice for example. The same goes for Fujitora's meteors.

I suggest start with the the God and Top Tiers and later scales the High and Mid Tiers to have clear limits.Now my thoughts about each feat:

Birdcage
As Cin explained before Doflamingo should scale above his Birdcage with his Black Knight since it was a casual attack and not something insanely above his regular AP. Also, Haki Threads are far stronger than regular threads.

Base Luffy or G2 Luffy should scale to the Black Knight (Cin explained why Abdullah and Jet alongside Kyros aren't argument against this). Doflamingo should scale above Luffy (but not for a huge gap as many of you has been saying).

Law scales to Doflamingo for being able to hurt him. Luffy scales with Red Hawk.

With Gear 4th Luffy should be at least 9.78GT. It's higher than that since this comes from Birdcage scaling to Black Knight and Base/G2 Luffy destroying it.

Fujitora should physically scale to Doflamingo from the time he stopped his kick (wasn't a serious fight but Doflamingo wasn't joking nor playing around).

Meteors
Right now we have them valued at 13GT. Nobody directly scales from that but we have other feats supporting other characters. Big Mom should me at least comparable due to his clash with G4 Luffy.

Kaido should be above this for the one-shot.

The Admirals should be comparable if not superior. Fujitora did this casually and wasn't even worried about the meteor killing him. Actually he should be superior than that.

Whitebeard and Shanks should be superior aswell.
 
I don't buy Cin's explanations.

I don't think that the Black Knight scales to the Birdcage. They're two completely different attacks. His strings have varying attack potency / durability depending on the attack.

Case in point; Luffy destroyed the Black Knight using multiple G2 punches, but was completely unable to even dent Doflamingo's Spider Web with a G3 punch.

> Fujitora did this casually and wasn't even worried about the meteor killing him.

Fujitora dropping meteors in the area doesn't mean he's planning on tanking them. He had to deflect the much smaller meteor he dropped on Law and Doflamingo.
 
I agree with Damage on this, birdcage scaling to his normal AP makes little sense.

I also disagree with scaling Doflamingo to Aokiji's Ice Age, when aokiji managed to stop doflamingo in his tracks with a casual noname attack that requred 0 movement from him.
 
I'll have to give my full thoughts on this tomorrow, but if accept that Doflamingo scales to Aokiji's Ice Age (I have doubts on this, but most people are in favor for it), then I could see Doflamingo's durability being:

Durability: Mountain level (Withstood Aokiji's casual attack unharmed), Large Mountain level via Strings (Spider's Web defense & Birdcage)

And this is just some initial thoughts of course, I'm probably overlooking something.

As for other calcs; are there any Gear 3 feats Post-Timeskip that we could get calced? Or what about Akainu vaporizing the iceburg that Jozu threw his way?

Didn't Luffy destroy the head of the Pica Golem with a Gear 3 move? That could provide a calc to justify Caeser's ratings too.
 
He should also get it for his AP when using Awakening. Also mountain level Isn't needed, Oven's shouldn't be any stronger than Doffy. If anything his profile should look like At least Large Mountain Level, likely large Mountain level+ (Shouldn't be weaker than the likes of Charlotte Oven's, possibly scales to his own Birdcage.)


Also I'm getting another feat calculated so we should wait before getting into this, as it could mess the scaling up.
 
Is it the Shanks and Whitebeard calc? That'd be useful for scaling because we currently have no calcs for the Yonko.

If nobody else has done it, then tomorrow I'll put in calc requests for Akainu's feat and Luffy's Gear 3 attack on Pica.
 
Awesome. I don't think we have to be in any rush about this because there are a lot of calcs to sort through and a lot of characters to evaluate.
 
Thanks to everybody who are helping out.
 
Damage3245 said:
If nobody else has done it, then tomorrow I'll put in calc requests for Akainu's feat and Luffy's Gear 3 attack on Pica.
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What feat are you talking about? I don't remember any feats from Akainu
 
Ugarik said:
What feat are you talking about? I don't remember any feats from Akainu
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During the Marineford Arc, close to the beginning of the war, Akainu vaporized an iceburg that Jozu tossed his way. It may be a useful supporting feat to get calced.
 
Btw is Alabasta Antarctica sized or the calc has been debunked?
 
Well, if we go by that statement about the river width, then Alabasta is huge.

I think Oda messed up a bit with the size scaling, but it doesn't really matter at this point.
 
I'm pretty sure Ichigo had a feat of destroying all of the clouds above Karakura Town and it got a City level result.

I don't know how the Shanks and Whitebeard calc will turn out but I can't imagine them getting High 6-C from it.
 
Well Ichigo's feat was a bit different, he didn't actually destroy all of them. He destroyed a much smaller one than the one Shanks and Whitebeard did. Also that feat your talking about is 7-A and had much higher ends.


Although even if this did get high results we'd have to divide the result by two since Shanks and Whitebeard did it
 
Quick list of useful calcs to be created then:

  • Luffy's Gear 3 Grizzly Magnum on Pica's head
  • Akainu vaporizing the iceburg
  • Shanks and Whitebard's cloud-splitting clash
  • Fujitora's first meteor
I'm going to try and calc a couple of those in a few hours. The more consistent feats we get for the scaling chain, the better.
 
A feat that could be added is Prometheus's size.

Feat
Big Mom is 8.8 meters tall and if we use the average fire temperature (1,960C) we could get a good calc.
And that's a direct result from Big Mom's influence over Prometheus so it isn't Enviromental Destruction and anything else. She did it casually and he can use offensively.
 
Rin The Dragon Empress said:
I'm wondering if we can get KE from Jozu tossing the ice?
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Only if we have a timeframe which I doubt. Jozu tossing the ice isn't free fall speed or anything else. I don't know if somebody could find the speed.
 
Yeah, Calaca is right. It's difficult to gauge the distance. You'd be better off calcing his introduction feat where he destroys a Mangrove tree with an explosion.
 
It looks like the same arguments as the last few threads

Does Duffy scale to his birdcage?

Does Duffy scale to Akoji's ice?

High 7-A everyone seems a little unusual to me so Might have to change my stance to yes for both of the above despite the strong evidence Damage and Torch have presented.

Some feats for the Yonko would be good, but I suspect the Shanks/WB won't be any higher than 7-A going from Ichigo's feats. IF it were much larger than that I would have doubts.

Prometheus's and Akainu's heat might make better markers.
 
There's such a large disparity between the Low End and High End results... surely some sort of Mid End would be possible to calc?
 
@Damage

The low-end shows the water on panel, while the high-end assumes that it stretched till the horizon as well as assumes an angle for that.
 
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