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Za Huntoda vs Zeref Doragneel (Grace Period)

Hunter can approach him fine. Depending on what he needs to do to destroy, he may able to kill Zeref and bypass Low-godly. He destroys mind and soul.
 
I saw Black Mage, was going to cry "Maplestory's getting revisions", then I clicked the link, lol.

Eyeballing it, Hunter takes this FRA.
 
Yeah...

Hunter's abilities surpass what Zeref can throw at him. A neat battle had, but Hunter should eventually take this.
 
>Puts someone against Zeref that resists both his hax and is almost large planet level in comparison to his continental

wut
 
I don't see a Xeno'Jiva/whatever the elder dragon continent level thing that Hunter scales to profile. What's the calc and his AP from it?
 
@Enryu

The hunter's moveset seems to change depending on what he's using. What armor and weapons does this one have?
 
So how is a Hunter wearing multiple armor sets at once then? The OP just chooses, same with how he choose this to be a Hunter that is 6-A and not one that is 5-B. Also, how does the mind destruction work and how many attacks does it take?
 
I'm pretty sure paradox are allowed for VS fights. We don't restrict Dio or Arcueid after all. Also I'm sure Enryu doesn't know a lot about MH so I doubt he can pick the armors.

More intelligent is, more powerful it takes. It depends on their intelligence.
 
There's a difference between one character not being able to survive at a certain time/being severely weakened and being given all your armors and their abilities into one composite form. We don't do that for characters like Erza from Fairy Tail who has multiple sets of armor.

How many strikes has it taken on the most intelligent being it has hit and how intelligent was that being?
 
That's because Erza can change armors from the get go. Hunter can't. Then we don't know what he wears and what he holds. So we can say anything not to mention accessories and specialized Tools are a thing so you can have resistance of the other armor while wearing one. Also death and space-time resistance isn't connected to armors so different conditions, same results.

DFCMs like Fatalis I think. If it has vocal cords to speak, he'll say a ton of hate words that makes AM's speech look like birthday card in comparison. It's game mechanics that made them survive alongside other bullshit such as Deviljho running away and considering how smart Zeref is, I doubt he can take two hits especially when it affects Vaal Hazak who can resist country mindhax with ease.
 
Beings surviving in MH can be attributed to game mechanics, that much is true- one weapon explicitly destroys the soul and yet there they are, still living.
 
DFCMS? AM? What do these stand for? For the Vaal Hazak and Zeref bit, being intelligent =/= resistance to mind hax. Did it twoshot Vaal?
 
Dangerous First-Class Monsters. They're very intelligent and lived for at least thousands of years.

No, being intelligent means much more damage coming from Dragon Element and Elder Dragon has shown to be much more intelligent than normal human. Vaal Hazak's resistance comes from Effluvium, not Dragon Element.

Again, game Mechanics. Monster get killed in two shots is not fun. Also AM is the Character from I have no mouth and I must scream, it's a reference.
 
So then it wouldn't effect Zeref as badly since he's only lived for 400 years, give or take a few. So does the attack instantly destroy the mind in a single attack? What was it's effect on the least intelligent being it was used on and how smart was it?
 
@Rein

That's an advantage for Erza because she specifically trained to get to that level and has a power that allows her to swap between the stuff. By the logic currently being used, OG Ben 10 should get access to all of his aliens powers simultaneously if he doesn't have Master Control. Characters shouldn't just get access to every powerset they have when its completely unreasonable.
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
So then it wouldn't effect Zeref as badly since he's only lived for 400 years, give or take a few. So does the attack instantly destroy the mind in a single attack? What was it's effect on the least intelligent being it was used on and how smart was it?
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It damages based on intelligence not age and Zeref is stupidly smart. Age only matters for the monsters because they have been learning for millennia. Zeref created life, time machines, and ressurection system when he was a child.
 
The armor thing is similar to the Insomniac Spiderman costume thing. Spiderman has different costume's with different abilities and when he's in a match he's not given a composite suit with all of their powers, the OP states what he has.
 
Dragon, in-game a 5-A Hunter doesn't even one-shot 8-Bs, you're looking at that from the wrong angle. You're not dealing with a show or book or anime, you're looking at a video game. Number of hits is largely game mechanics.

And, technically, paradoxes are allowed. In theory the Hunter can use all armors at once- while that's very weird, it is plausible within our system.
 
Paradoxes were allowed in the case of Character A is at peak during the day while B is peak at night so its both day and night. Composite powersets is not.
 
No, I'm not talking about the game's showings of the attacks, but whatever the source that the reason he has it on the profile comes from. Like if it's in lore or maybe some animated. Where the attacks the mind part comes from, does it ever show how many attacks it takes to destroy a mind at each level of intelligence or how the effectivenes changes from the differences in intelligence?
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Paradoxes were allowed in the case of Character A is at peak during the day while B is peak at night. Composite powersets is not.
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That's an example, Anonymous. Not the exception.

And... well. Most attacks come from various weapons possessing various abilities (putting enemies to sleep, paralysis, Elder seal negging enemy powers, and so on) or some unique gadget. Most of the haxxy abilities come from various unique weapons with lore statements (a good example is the soul destruction thing).

As for damaging enemies with higher intelligence. We don't know how much more it would damage a creature like Zeref. That said, we know that it hurts relatively intelligent animals much much much more than it damages creatures with baseline intelligence. The problem is that, while we know it damages intelligent creatures much more, we don't have an exact number, just that it gets stronger the more intelligent their foe is.
 
BannedLagiacrus is very trusted researcher within MH community. It comes from various encyclopedias published by Capcom. Where it comes from is a mystery to oomph the mystery factor of the Elder Dragons I guess and they don't show it anytime soon. No, as far as I know, there is no evidence for what's the exact effects of intelligence to the Dragon Element, it's just the nutshell of how it works.

I mean, many of his resistance and powers comes from items, has accessories that let you have resistance anyway and the armor is currently unknown, we can just say what the hell we say. Though I can give suggestions, part of me saying that it's not a viable option.
 
What exactly is the soul destruction statement?

If it's not super specific, then it could be possible that the game mechanics really do reflect how it actually works. If the weapon could destroy an entire mind with a single attack, then it wouldn't make sense that the "it does more damage vs creatures with more intelligence" thing even exists cause it would just oneshot them either way.
 
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