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Za Huntoda vs Zeref Doragneel (Grace Period)

Yeah, that's why I'm saying Zeref would win with SBA distance. But it's a stomp for The Hunter if Zeref starts in striking range.
 
It's '''up to'''. Most of his weapons don't go that high. It's like tens of meters and hundreds of Meters is Magnet Spike and range of Elderseal.
 
Yup. It's passive. It null or nerfs abilities even if you're far away as you can hit Dank Kushala with Bowgun with Elderseal.
 
Then I guess Zeref would just time travel after realizing that's the only thing that's working which literally won't take any time at all. If the elderseal still works on him while he's in the past then he can just snap the Hunter's neck in his sleep.
 
just gonna chime in to say that ghillie mantle isn't prep time, they can just throw that on to get real close and not be detected
 
Yes it does, actually. Ghillie Mantle has helped with an enhanced senses creature being about five feet away and looking in the direction of the mantle user.

It's a pretty good version of Stealth.
 
...Detecting life, sure, but not magic. The Hunter's abilities largely come from chopping off bits from creatures that can do what they do naturally.

So do they detect life, or magic? Either way the Ghillie Mantle is ultimately a minor point, but still.
 
He sneaked on Extrasensory Users too like Gore Magala pretty easily. Not even with Ghillie this time. Also yeah, Palicoes with palico gadget will use empathy to taunt Zeref just in time to hot him with tranquilizer that works on the monsters who pumps adrenaline like it's going out of style and guys who resist sleep lill Inagami.
 
I don't know, he can probably do all three. He was able to talk to ghosts and know where they are too which don't even have life.
 
I don't think the Palico would be with the Hunter since it's not equipment or a manifestation from one of his abilities. What is taunt/empathy?
 
It's one of his summons. Palicoes has its own mind and use their gadgets independently not to mention they're always with him. It's basically luring technique, to give Hunter time to do stuff while Palico hold it off.

Also about TT, he better know what time he has to strike because hunter is always been with other hunters and palicoes just watching him when he's sleeping in camp and has three more hunters with same rank when he's sleeping outside. And also he barely sleeps.
 
So he can't detect life, he can detect ghosts and magic.

Dragon, Summoning allows them to summon them.
 
But like what does it do? Zeref's first reaction to no powers would just be an instant time travel.

I mean, Zeref can literally watch him for as long as wants before he has figured the perfect schedule to kill him at.

Isn't detecting ghosts > detecting life?
 
If you're talking about taunt, it's unknown, it just make people pissed as hell.

I'm pretty sure detecting something metaphysical doesn't mean you can detect physical threats. If I sense a soul, it doesn't mean I can sense thermal signature.

Again, he has a face that can be mistaken to anyone, and when he gets caught it's instant jail time since going to guild and not being part of the guild is called trespassing and there's fully equipped hunters everywhere with tranquilizer everywhere. Catched monsters sleep for days when they're put into sleep. Also is he can see past or something?
 
Then that's not specific enough. It's only been used on animals, Zeref's smart/patient enough to hold in his emotions and not rush into an attack when none of his powers work.

It's not like Zeref couldn't just join the guild and become a Hunter himself before killing the Hunter when they're on a mission alone together.
 
It has been used on animals with intelligence. The thing just makes things angry.

Ultimately, I remain convinced the Hunter wins this more times than not.
 
>Monsters including Elder Dragons

>Animal

T R I G G E R E D

Okay, first of all, Elder Dragons have shown to be capable of human behaviors, able to tolerate other people, and has stable emotions especially 5th Gens. It still worked.

And does the guy who has the ability to kill everything paasively and out of control joined them is a good idea? He's either criminal or specimen than anything else if he did that. And also to be Hunter, you need to respect nature and life. You know what that means to Zeref.
 
He's not out of control, not only was that base Zeref but it was also before Zeref calmed down. Even if it was base Zeref in a vs match(not this one specifically) then it would be the calm and collected base Zeref.

I mean, stable emotion+ human behavior + toleration of people is still <<<< 400 year planning and not making any mistakes due to emotion during that entire process.
 
EDs also lived hundreds of years, Dragon. They're unknown just because we don't know the exact value. Also I'm pretty lazy. They have stable emotions over the years. Inagami for example.

I'm pretty sure he needs info do form a plan and actually know about the guild. Following Hunter might be a way, but then again, always hunters everywhere and either shoot to kill or shoot to sleep when get caught. Probably the latter.
 
Living =/= having a set plan that has steps you need to follow. There's not an Elder Dragon that created an empire and become the emporer.


Except he can just see that there is multiple of the people he has to defeat, follow them and then join the guild. If they see him, then they're not just going to kill another human. Hunters don't kill other Hunters they happen to come across. Zeref infiltrates and then assassinates the Hunter at the right time.
 
Guanzomuru created an empire of some sort by bunch of Egyurasu that spreads over the ecosystem, controlling other Wyverns with iron fist and treat every other monsters in his rules like a servant who sacrifices for sake of protecting the king. That elder dragon lived at the same time of Ancient Civilization.

Hunter Association has a very strict set of rules that need to be followed in order to join. G-Rank Hunter usually interacts with other G-Rank Hunter not to mention they have same exact moveset so fighting them is like fighting hunter. But in their base, has a lot of back up, literally has other hunters everywhere, not to mention in order to become a member he needs to travel to another continent, get a test, get some training, get a license, go back, climb up the rank, get a respect and then he can get to Hunter. In lore and in gameplay actually they do more than hunting stuff. From escorting people, gathering materials and dealing with criminals. They're either put them to jail or downright dealing with them. Also there's a problem with halos and stuff. It's so obvious that he is there, he's glowing white.
 
Just being the strongest monster and everyone else being a servant =/= having an entire continent with an actual infrastructure, jobs, a navy, different ranks in the army.

It's not like the Hunter Association has an anti white policy does it? Besides not only does Zeref look nothing like his base form, with the different hair style and clothes. No one even knew what he looked like in Base.
 
They don't have anti white policy but they suspect for a guy who is shining white with halo on his back. At best he gets several hunters with him and always attend on some serious dissecting and interrogation, at worst he'll put into cage. Or die.
 
Isn't shining white and a halo usually considered something good? Also, why would they kill him? He's like the first of his kind to them, they would want to keep him alive. If they do try to kill him then Zeref could just time travel to before he tried to appear before them and then make a human looking demon that can fit in and take the place of what I said he tried to do.
 
Anyone quote the reason for how hunter exactly win? Since zeref have resistance to soul manipulation,and hunter didn't have death manipulation resistance in his profile
 
Hunter has essentially every other advantage down to negging a good amount of Zeref's abilities. As Reinhard said, Zeref's win condition is that they somehow find the Hunter in the past while knowing nothing about them, somehow avoid getting killed by the organization he will try to figure out stuff about, manage to get close enough to the Hunter to begin with (meaning acting as a Hunter for literal ages) and then kill them. Again, all this while not dying to the other 5-A Hunters and Monsters he is inequipped to deal with.
 
I'm still 99% sure this is a stomp since Zeref can't do shit unless he time travels which is ridiculously unlikely to work
 
There's a win condition, he isn't insta-killed, it isn't a stomp.
 
Zeref's win condition is that they somehow find the Hunter in the past while knowing nothing about them, somehow avoid getting killed by the organization he will try to figure out stuff about, manage to get close enough to the Hunter to begin with (meaning acting as a Hunter for literal ages) and then kill them. Again, all this while not dying to the other 5-A Hunters and Monsters he is inequipped to deal with.

1. He can reverse time infinite times until he finds him again.

2. Infinite time to find out about the information, it's not exactly a secret.

3. Pretty sure there aren't any 400 year old Hunters, masquerading as someone else for a long time is nothing new for him. See above, when he created an entire empire and became the emperor.

4. Pretty sure Hunters don't randomly attack other people which is what Zeref is and he's not stupid enough to attack in a place where he won't win. Especially not stupid enough to attack when there are multiple people of the same strength level of the guy he's trying to kill and even stronger. I think the only monsters that attack settlements are the really slow ones and besides those 5-A hunters you mentioned would be killing them. Pretty sure every monster doesn't have resistance to death manip either.
 
>The votes are based off of The Hunter hitting Zeref and Power nulling

>The person who made that reasoning agrees that Zeref would be to Time Travel

>The votes with incorrect reasoning is still being used for votes

What?
 
Reinhardthrowhisspear said:
Hunter can approach him fine. Depending on what he needs to do to destroy, he may able to kill Zeref and bypass Low-godly. He destroys mind and soul.
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This is literally all that everyone is FRAing for.
 
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