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Za Huntoda vs Zeref Doragneel (Grace Period)

DragonEmperor23 said:
What exactly is the soul destruction statement?
If it's not super specific, then it could be possible that the game mechanics really do reflect how it actually works. If the weapon could destroy an entire mind with a single attack, then it wouldn't make sense that the "it does more damage vs creatures with more intelligence" thing even exists cause it would just oneshot them either way.
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Normally via impact from a fair portion of their weapons or misc. things like dragon pods. Causes an inability to use abilities it effects, which is... a lot, ranging from necromancy and resurrection to simple fire and electricity manipulation.
 
Wait nvm, Zeref resists it but ty for answering. I'll vote Zeref since he can just travel back in time and kill the Hunter as a child or just weaker in general after realizing that his death magic has no effect on him.
 
Elderseal is a thing, Bam. It's passive and ranged. And Dragon Element works on Alatreon who can manipulate space and time.

A Gunlance that houses the black god's soul; his dark fire scorches the soul. - Akantor Cannonlance description. Also there's a lot of weapons also has soul destruction from Lagiacrus to Alatreon possibly Xeno'Jiiva if I remember correctly.
 
And Zeref resists.


Yeah, that's definitely not enough to prove that he one shots souls. What about the description for the one that attacks the mind? Any damage He does just gets reversed by Zeref's time manipulation. Then Hunter gets paradoxed
 
Mr. I used up all of my Nulberries got nulled. And his Hax spread across country sized ecosystem. And can control them at will. How powerful is his resistance anyway?

Also yeah, where does the reversed even if the mind got destroyed comes from? Oh yeah, [1]. It probably comes from interviews and encyclopedias. One shoting or not, Zeref can't do anything about it if he can't feel it. Hunter's destruction is likely "has no affect on you until it's completely destroyed" kind of destruction because the mind works that way.

And also it's totally "in character" for him to incapacitate him by putting him to sleep. And it takes one or two tranquilizer shots because it's powerful enough to put Deviljho and Nergigante to sleep. Both of which has days of stamina and WOKE to keep awake.
 
The range of your hax does not make you more resistant to power null.

Except Zeref would be time reversing to get rid of his physical wounds and unkowningly fixing his soul damage and mind damage as well.

Except time reversal gets rid of that before he falls asleep. Stamina does not stop tranqs, those are poison.
 
@Dragon how would he even use the time warp when he's already lost consciousness with the tranquillizers?
 
It's not like they're hard to doge, the hunter only hits them because he sneaks up on monsters. Zeref would see it easily and dodge.
 
So basically.


Fight starts. Hunter shoots a tranq at Zeref. Zeref dodges. Zeref spawns a Death Pillar on Hunter. Nothing happens. Zeref realizes he can't kill him and time travels to kill Hunter as a child. The end.


Hunter won't be able to hit Zeref with any of his mind destroying, soul destroying, or power nulling attacks because his range with those weapons is only hundreds of meters and SBA range is 4km. Zeref would easily be able to attack from this distance and then continue to do what I said above. All of Hunter's votes are based off of him doing something that he needs to be in a closer range to do and will get defeated before ever getting that close. Votes are nulled if their reasoning is debunked.
 
@Dragon how would he know where the Hunter would even be, or where he was born, or who his name is?
 
So lemme get this straight

Zeref is going to waste time traveling back to kill the Hunter as a Child

Yet, despite Acno being a huge threat to the world and Zeref knew everything about him, he didn't travel
 
There was the part where Natsu powernulled him and he couldn't go through the portal. Context is important. Again, The Hunter is four kilometers away. The distance is not comparable to him in the slightest.
 
You mean in the second fight?

The fight that takes place after the first where Natsu got crushed by Zeref?

Where Zeref had a ton of time to time travel?
 
Natsu got up and Zeref turned around to fight him again. It's PIS that he didn't know Natsu had gotten stronger with his magic sensing. He was just going to attack Natsu in a more lethal spot since the lack of a heart didn't stop him and then leave. If he had realized Natsu had gotten stronger, he would have just left.
 
That's not PIS, that's CIS, which is perfectly useable in a fight

That entire fight meant literally nothing anyway considering that it doesn't take Zeref time to time travel so he still could have done it at literally any point before getting crushed by Natsu
 
PIS is very different from CIS. Zeref is not stupid. He created an army,started a war, and beat up the woman he loved just to do this. He thought he had actually killed Natsu, his brother who he loves very much, before he went through the door. He had this all planned out for hundreds of years. The only reason Zeref didn't know that Natsu had gotten stronger was because the plot made him stupid enough to forget how to sense magic.


The door was behind him, that's like saying he could be able to turn around mid punch and walk through before getting beat down by Natsu.
 
Ghillie can get around to confuse Zeref since it hides his presence strong enough to not knowing that he is front of him. Hunter has no prob hide for days, travel countries, and just camp until he gets a chance. Good Hunter never fights hunt head-on. Not to mention he always brings food, has no problem sleeping even in country of rotten flesh and whatnot.

He's literally searching for a guy who has a face of everyday man, who isn't even native of the continent, on a base with many G-Rank Hunter lying around, it's a death wish. Also they have armors and resistance Hunter wears too.
 
Reinhardthrowhisspear said:
Ghillie can get around to confuse Zeref since it hides his presence strong enough to not knowing that he is front of him. Hunter has no prob hide for days, travel countries, and just camp until he gets a chance. Good Hunter never fights hunt head-on. Not to mention he always brings food, has no problem sleeping even in country of rotten flesh and whatnot.
He's literally searching for a guy who has a face of everyday man, who isn't even native of the continent, on a base with many G-Rank Hunter lying around, it's a death wish. Also they have armors and resistance Hunter wears too.
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Literally all of that first paragraph is you giving the Hunter a huge amount of prep time which is not what this match is.

Again, he doesn't have to go everywhere just travel back to before he put on the armor and kill him. In his sleep, when everyone else is asleep too.
 
Wait

So it DOES take time for Zeref to travel

Meaning Hunter can repeatedly stop him from doing so?
 
How do you stop someone from doing something when your attack range is hundreds of meters and the opponent is right next to the thing 4 kilometers away?
 
Because if you don't put anything, SBA applies. Called Standard Battle Assumptions for a reason.
 
You are allowed to edit the range if you feel like it though.
 
You know that making the fight start at 100 Meters makes this a stomp right? The Hunter literally oneshots Zeref and ignores all of his hax.
 
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