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Fairy Tail Revisions, Upgrades and Other things

DemonGodMitchAubin

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I know it has been a while but Fairy Tail needs a huge amount of revisions and checks, and since there are pratically no more Admis for Fairy Tail, I will try and recruit help to deal with several things concerning the verse

1. Since Jellal's Sema, has been accepted as 7-A, everyone in Tartaros needs to be revised to fit these statistics

Jellal Calc: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Malikobama1/Jellal_Sema_Revised?comments_page=1

2. Natsu's 7-C when boosted by emotions, needs to be removed, as Natsu is almost always boosted by emotions, and this key makes no sense, base 2nd origin Natsu has a solid 7-C feat, so he should just be 7-C and many agree to this

3. a new calc that I have made, puts the spriggans at 6-C or above, and it needs to be looked at so that we can make proper upgrades to the spriggans, for example, it greatly affects the verse and makes sense along with the scaling so I belive it should be at least looked at New Calc: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DemonGodMitchAubin/Etherion's_Magnetic_Confinement

4. As Malik has pointed out several justifiations for characters scaling, need to be revised to fit the reasons for scaling

I know I have made a ton of threads about Fairy Tail, however this will hopefully be the last upgrade thread I ever have to make, and regardless of whether or not the blog I made gets accepted or not, the jellal feat still upgrades everyone, so if other admins could jump in and help with these revisions, then that would be amazing, and I would be very grateful, I care a lot about Fairy Tail, and if these things get accepted, I am 100% willing to take time out of my own live to make the accepted changes if willing, so please help me get this over with and finish all this stuff with Fairy Tail
 
You should preferably organize each calc so that it's easier to navigate. Headers would help.
 
@Aubin

It's been a while since I've ready FT, so you're going to have to clarify some things.

1) Why does everyone scale to Sema?

2) Why is this wrong? It's been shown in the series that Natsu can get much stronger than he is normally if he's wound up, like the time Happy pissed him off intentionally while he was fighting the wind guy.

3) Want whatever calcs you're using properly evaluated before we do anything.
 
For number 2 iirc it's the fact that Natsu during the Sting and Rouge fight wasn't powered by emotions, he wasn't even going all out.
 
.....not everyone needs to have an upgrade....any1 thats Jellas lvl and up gets the 7-A but everyone below shouldnt....why does any1 who is wekaer then Jella in the Tartoras arc getting 7-A as well when again they r weaker?
 
1.) only people stronger than Jellal in the tartaros arc would scale

2) Natsu is ALWAYS using Friendsip Power, if we always applied a new key for whenever he gets boosted by emotions, the every key should have higher when boosted by friendship, it's just that it's uneccsssary on his page, he should jsut be 7-C

3) you're 100% right
 
1) Again, why? Sema is Jellal's strongest spell. I don't see why everyone scales to it.

2) It's not friendship power. It's explicitly stated that he gets stronger when his emotions are riled up. That's why he's prone to getting his butt kicked earlier in the fight before something makes him legitimately angry and gives him the power boost he needs to start turning the tides.
 
1) only DF Natsu, Gray when against Demons, CSK, Laxus, Jura, Mard Geer would scale to Jellal

2) if we accounted for every time Natsu got an emotion Boost, then every single one of his keys would have higher when boosted by emotions, it's not necessary, plus Natsu explicitly said he was holding back
 
Reppuzan said:
1) Again, why? Sema is Jellal's strongest spell. I don't see why everyone scales to it.
2) It's not friendship power. It's explicitly stated that he gets stronger when his emotions are riled up. That's why he's prone to getting his butt kicked earlier in the fight before something makes him legitimately angry and gives him the power boost he needs to start turning the tides.
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Theres alot i wanna talk about the lower lvls....like for instance why is BoS Lucy Massively Hypersonic+ but she was NEVER comparable AT ALL and see Team Natsu as "monsters"?

I also dont undertsand again just that since Jellal is 7-A, everyone thats WEAKER then him gets upgraded as well
 
Let's list all those who scale to Sema. Only those clearly a good deal above him should.

@BlackJan

She's not comparable in power yes, but she is still comparable in speed. Just because one is not comparable in power =/= they can't compare in speed.
 
@Dragonmaster

Im not talking in power in general i just meant speed instead. The reason why she even gotten that upgrade b/c of Natsu's fight vs Laxus and somehow people that that since Natsu was dodging Laxus then Lucy would also be able to do it too but thats not true at all since shes ALOT weaker then Natsu....and even he was having trouble against Laxus that Gajeel came to help and they were STILL having trouble keeping up. BoS Lucy shouldnt be Massively Hypersonic+ at all
 
1) Actually, only Jura (given that Sema supposedly shouldn't have killed him if it had been actually fired) and Mard Geer scale. Everyone else scale from these two.

2) I agree

3) 6-C for Spriggans make sense, but I'd wait if the calc gets accepted. Assuming it does, it would most likely scale to most/every Spriggan.
 
Being weaker than someone =/= you cannot react or keep pace with them. Her being a weaker character only has to deal with AP and durability, not speed.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
Being weaker than someone =/= you cannot react or keep pace with them. Her being a weaker character only has to deal with AP and durability, not speed.
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If someone is stronger then u then what would that mean? not just power but speed as well. Again even Natsu was having trouble keeping up and he's ALOT stronger then Lucy so how would she even be comparable who is not only stronger then her but also faster? its litrally like this for ALL CHARACTERS in VS who r stronger then their opponent.


Also i wanted to know about the Wahl Calc....can we assume the calc even though it was never fired?
 
Once again, being weaker than someone =/= you are slower. Natsu may in fact be fast than Lucy, but he wouldn't be THAT much faster. AP and Speed do NOT correlate.
 
Um....no thats like saying even though Krillin is not as strong as Goku, he can still keep up w/ him. Is that what yhur saying? we dont even have evidence that BoS Lucy can keep up w/ Natsu or Erza and again she called them "monsters" its not that hard when its the same w/ every other charcter in this VS thread. Shes not comparable AT ALL if she makes statements like that which mean not only in power but w/ speed as well cause if thats the case then EVERYONE who is not comparable to their friend or rival should have the same speed even though they r weaker then them

EDIT: again can we calc something that never existed?
 
Let me answer your question with another question.

Are you telling me that just because someone is weaker in AP that they are also weaker in speed?
 
Here calling them monsters =/= she is talking about speed. They could be faster than her. Doesn't mean that they are THAT much faster. Calling them monsters could also simply refer to AP. Where is your source that her calling them monsters referred to speed as well?
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
Let me answer your question with another question.
Are you telling me that just because someone is weaker in AP that they are also weaker in speed?
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Thats how it is w/ all the characters who arent comparable in the slightest. So let me tell u (no disrespect) if AP is all that matter excpet speed if someone is stronger then why is Konohamaru not as fast as SOSP Naruto? i mean yes Naruto is stronger then Konohamaru but since AP is all that matters then why is Konohamaru not as fast as Naruto? I would say that Leo (Lucy spirit) is comparable to Natsu and co. but Lucy herself isnt
 
False Equivalency

Unlike Lucy who travels around with Natsu and Erza, sees them fight all the time, reacts to their movements and can summon Celestial Spirits mid battle. Konohamaru is not consistently around Naruto or even matching his full speed. Unlike Lucy who consistently reacts to Natsu and Erza without power-ups.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
Let's list all those who scale to Sema. Only those clearly a good deal above him should.
@BlackJan

She's not comparable in power yes, but she is still comparable in speed. Just because one is not comparable in power =/= they can't compare in speed.
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The ones who scale to 7-A Sema Jellal are

Tartaros Arc Dragon Force Natsu

Tartaros Arc Gray Against Demons

Celestial Spirit King (should also be given a key that says Higher with Full Power)

GMG Jura

Tartaros Arc Laxus

Mard Geer's Base and Etherious Form

As well some characters need to be weakened from 7-B to Low 7-B, because they are 7-B for no reaso

Tartaros Arc Erza with strongest armors

Etherious seilah

Etherious kyouka

Tartaros Arc Oracion Seis

And lastly Future Rogue's base form needs to be 7-C for being equal to base Natsu, and 2nd origin base natsu is strictly 7-C

Alvarez Arc Changes will be made when someone evaluates the calc, and in the meantime, I can make these changes to the profiles
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
False EquivalencyUnlike Lucy who travels around with Natsu and Erza, sees them fight all the time, reacts to their movements and can summon Celestial Spirits mid battle. Konohamaru is not consistently around Naruto or even matching his full speed. Unlike Lucy who consistently reacts to Natsu and Erza without power-ups.
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Its not a False Equivalency cause its the same concept of yur question lol. Actually do we even have any feats for Lucy like at all? and i like how u said that she travels and see their battle but alright yet Bulma who ISNT STRONG AT ALL can witness a battle from any of the Z fighters (dont even say false equivalency cause again im matching the same concept)

P.S: 1st off when has Lucy EVER had a battle or spar w/ Natsu or Erza? now i feel like yur making that up to get yur point across (no disrespect)

@Demon

R u saying that some characters from the Tartaros arc need to now be Low 7-B?
 
guys stay on topic, Lucy was able to keep up with Juvia and Bixlow, who are both able to keep up with Erza and Gray, so her speed scales

The people who are 7-B in the tartaros arc have no reason to be that
 
It makes sense that '''Town level''' when Enhanced by Emotions should be removed if he wasn't enhanced by emotions and he said he was holding back. Especially if he has a town level feat in base. That's just common sense.
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
guys stay on topic, Lucy was able to keep up with Juvia and Bixlow, who are both able to keep up with Erza and Gray, so her speed scales
PLEASE KEEP UP WITH SCALES ABOVE
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Um....Juvia is stronger then Lucy but yes yur right lets stay on topic....anyways i wanna say how do we know that DF Natsu should scale? reason im saying this is b/c Jella has always been stronger then DF Natsu (he kept up w/ DF during Tower of Heaven and only lost b/c his damage from Erza distracted him). Also again r u saying that some characters be downgraded to Low 7-B?

@Dragon

someone said that there was a calc at Low 7-C from Natsu's special move
 
"Its not a False Equivalency cause its the same concept of yur question lol. Actually do we even have any feats for Lucy like at all? and i like how u said that she travels and see their battle but alright yet Bulma who ISNT STRONG AT ALL can witness a battle from any of the Z fighters (dont even say false equivalency cause again im matching the same concept)"

Except it's not? Unlike Lucy who is still a trained Mage and has even been in fight herself, Bulma has not and is just a normal human with no Ki training. Start difference. Not to mention Lucy's Key is for Pre-Second Origi. Lucy who has fought Angel, aided in the fights with numerous opponents, one of which including Hades.

"1st off when has Lucy EVER had a battle or spar w/ Natsu or Erza? now i feel like yur making that up to get yur point across (no disrespect)"

Except now you are putting words in my mouth. I have not ONCE stated that Lucy has ever fought Natsu or Erza. Not once. I don't even understand where that came from. I suggest you read my comment once again. Before you make accusations like saying I'm "making things up" as that is flat out rude.
 
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