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Cinder Fall vs Mami Tomoe

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Let's cut the bullshit and be done with it.

Full Maiden Power Cinder and Magical Girl Mami are used. Starts from 50 meters apart and speed is equalized. Win by any condition. Takes place in France During World War II.

Cinder Fall (Duality)
Tomoe mami wallpaper by kazetoushin-d5yy8pb
Cinder Fall:
Mami Tomoe: 6 (Teen, Shiro, Poinciana, Gojira, Gar, Kal)

Inconclusive:
 
hmmm if mami pulls of ribbon trap and tiro finale'd her the I'll vote for her, until cinder finds a way to break the power and stat nullification ribbon traps, em voting for the Headless Cheese Magical Girl
 
Homu Sweet Homu said:
And? Mami did beat her far superior duplicate despite being weaker than the duplicate.
By using her mobility, which is Equalized.

That's also a contradictory statement.
 
False Mami is actually has lower dura than her AP. It's still superior than Mami's own Dura, but it's still lower than Mami AP.
 
No, it was superior, by a lot actually.

Even the weakest Falsling (Sayaka) was incredibly superior to the original, even capable of fighting off Kyoko.

People beating their superior duplicates isn't anything new (Samus vs Dark Samus, for example), it just means extreme skill adaptability and an understanding of their own weaknesses
 
I know they're superior, I never said they weren't actually, just not better in every way like Homu implies.

@Homu Literally none of Mami beating her superior Clones has anything to do with Mami not being baseline....
 
<Her being baseline doesn't matter much.

<Old one was a stomp for that reason+Dura

Uhh..........................................................
 
Cuz Cinder is about 4 or 5 times stronger than Mami back then, Mami can't hurt her. In here, the gap is about what, 60+ megatons or so?
 
Mami isn't baseline, although she isn't far into the tier.

The clones are faster, stronger, tougher and are controlled by the AoC (Partially formed but still).

She only had skills over her false self.

Also most of her powers are magic based actually
 
To be fair it isn't like anything really changes for the purpose of this match (If Cinder is downgraded)

Cinder still one shots, and Mami still mostly wins due to smol island level ribbons.
 
Mami probably. She beats Cinder in attack spam, combat skills and overall versatility. Plus Cinder isn't bypassing her shields unless she catches her off guard, and if the AoC was unable to with its absurd arsenal, no way Cinder would manage to do it.
 
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