Cinder Fall vs Mami Tomoe

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Let's cut the bullshit and be done with it.

Full Maiden Power Cinder and Magical Girl Mami are used. Starts from 50 meters apart and speed is equalized. Win by any condition. Takes place in France During World War II.



Cinder Fall:
Mami Tomoe: 6 (Teen, Shiro, Poinciana, Gojira, Gar, Kal)

Inconclusive:

 

[The_Everlasting]

And the reward for most unimaginative title goes to...

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Me, me, me.

 

[ALRF]

Me of course

 

[TeenAngel101]

-Character- vs -Character- Redux

Waifu vs Waifu

I attempt to tear the wiki asunder

-Staff Member-'s Calamity

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I like the last one.

 

[Schnee_One]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Isn't Mami Baseline?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

And? Mami did beat her far superior duplicate despite being weaker than the duplicate.

 

[TeenAngel101]

Mami via Duplication, Power Null, Ribbons, Forcefields, Attack Reflection, etc.

 

[ShiroEinzbern]

hmmm if mami pulls of ribbon trap and tiro finale'd her the I'll vote for her, until cinder finds a way to break the power and stat nullification ribbon traps, em voting for the Headless Cheese Magical Girl

 

[ShiroEinzbern]

I'll do an early tally

Mami: 2

Cinder:0

 

[TheRustyOne]

Mami for reasons above.

 

[TeenAngel101]

M: 3

C: 0

 

[Schnee_One]

And? Mami did beat her far superior duplicate despite being weaker than the duplicate.

By using her mobility, which is Equalized.

That's also a contradictory statement.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Superior clone remember, duplicates is better than the original in every aspect.

 

[TeenAngel101]

But it lost. So it clearly wasn't.

 

[Schnee_One]

<Better In every way

<Loses

Obviously inferior in some way.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

False Mami is actually has lower dura than her AP. It's still superior than Mami's own Dura, but it's still lower than Mami AP.

 

[SomebodyData]

No, it was superior, by a lot actually.

Even the weakest Falsling (Sayaka) was incredibly superior to the original, even capable of fighting off Kyoko.

People beating their superior duplicates isn't anything new (Samus vs Dark Samus, for example), it just means extreme skill adaptability and an understanding of their own weaknesses

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Btw, Mami is Glass Canon, one hit from Cinder and she is dead.

 

[Schnee_One]

I know they're superior, I never said they weren't actually, just not better in every way like Homu implies.

@Homu Literally none of Mami beating her superior Clones has anything to do with Mami not being baseline....

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Never said she is above baseline. I just said her being Baseline doesn't matter much in here.

 

[Schnee_One]

<Her being baseline doesn't matter much.

<Old one was a stomp for that reason+Dura

Uhh..........................................................

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Dumb question but Mami being being a magical girl means she uses magic right...?

 

[Schnee_One]

Only for summoning guns but yeah

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Cuz Cinder is about 4 or 5 times stronger than Mami back then, Mami can't hurt her. In here, the gap is about what, 60+ megatons or so?

 

[Schnee_One]

68, but true.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Bump

 

[Kaltias]

Mami isn't baseline, although she isn't far into the tier.

The clones are faster, stronger, tougher and are controlled by the AoC (Partially formed but still).

She only had skills over her false self.

Also most of her powers are magic based actually

 

[Kaltias]

To be fair it isn't like anything really changes for the purpose of this match (If Cinder is downgraded)

Cinder still one shots, and Mami still mostly wins due to smol island level ribbons.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Oh yeah, Mami has TERRIBLE dura.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Regardless the downgrade, this match is still valid.

 

[Gojira1234]

And Mami still has her forcefields if need be. That being said I say Mami for reasons above.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

That's 4 for Mami

 

[Schnee_One]

Mami FRA

 

[Kaltias]

Mami probably. She beats Cinder in attack spam, combat skills and overall versatility. Plus Cinder isn't bypassing her shields unless she catches her off guard, and if the AoC was unable to with its absurd arsenal, no way Cinder would manage to do it.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

One more to go.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Mami FRA