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Yhwach was interrupted before we could see any other effects othan than his spiritual pressure emerging from the ground around him.
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Yhwach, Destroyer of Worlds (Bleach God Tier Revision)
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Yhwach was interrupted before we could see any other effects othan than his spiritual pressure emerging from the ground around him.
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still does not change the fact he has the power to do so
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Yes the opposition of this propsal have not provided good counter points uptill now.
The For side currently holds the lead in better points....
The For side currently holds the lead in better points....
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The fact it is interrupted doesn't change the fact that what he was doing was starting destroying Soul Society planet with his spiritual pressure, so your theory of him destroying Dangai and then destroy everything is completely contradicted by the visual and his statements, especially when Dangaii is never mentioned once by Yhwach.
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garganta was considered to be infinite
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Garganta is never once mentioned by Yhwach either.
We see him destroying the Soul Society, sure. Should we leave his feat at that?
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"無限に広がる黒腔の中を彷徨い続け"
"Wandering aimlessly in the infinite black cavity"
"Wandering aimlessly in the infinite black cavity"
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i mean he never says dangai either
We are told the feat would involve the removal of the boundary
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Well please now can you prove me that world of living and garganta are not low 2-C?
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Also, if I am not mistaken, the novelde said that yhwach's reiacus was scattered across all cogmology, so this supports that yhwach will destroy all kojmology using his reiacus, and the evidence also shows that it is not by a chain reaction that results in destroying the dengue.
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WAIT what
scan please
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i think that was the explanation as to why not all captains where present during tokinada etc. that they where going around getting rid of the energy left behind by YH
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I guess another discussion had written apple lord before, so I'm not quite sure.
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do you have this on you by chance
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The fact that yhwach discovered the last piece of reiatsu 10 years later supports the dispersal of yhwach's reiatsus in various parts of kojmology, and at the same time makes it clear that this is not a chain reaction by destroying a dengue-like structure, but directly combining and destroying it with raw power.
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The feats should be at bare minimum planet level just based of the lowest and safest assumption you can get by what Yhwach was doing by expanding is own black Reiatsu. If you really want to argue with the chain reaction thing, the destructions of the planets should be the actual minimum Yhwach needed to destroy to actually starts something of that magnitude, is the only hint we have since planets and realm have the same name.
And the Op already proved that if your body can't sustain your own Reiatsu it will simply break apart. plus tons of other visual that support the scaling, what we see at the end is
Yhwach's
Body itself
expanding to bring back the primordial world.
This blatant downplay of the multi-continent tier or "hax" need to end now, and Yhwach needs the respect he deserves.
And regarding the "boundary" thing it is clearly stated "The boundaries of the 3 worlds"
Dangai connects only soul society and the living world. The theory doesn't even make sense (plus the obvious visual contradictions), the only thing that act to a boundary to Hueco Mundo and also living world and Soul society is the Garganta.
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He has expressed this issue before, but cyber told me it would be better to talk about it in a separate CRT after this CRT. Consequently, a false assessment of 3A / low 2C is for cogmology, low 2C / 2C is much more accurate
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i don’t know why Damage continues to stonewall the Garganta point. It is confirmed to be called infinite and is the only structure that surrounds all 3 worlds.
The Dangai argument is quite literally impossible unless you ignore the fact that it doesn’t relate to Hueco Mundo one of the core worlds separated from the old universe.
The Dangai argument is quite literally impossible unless you ignore the fact that it doesn’t relate to Hueco Mundo one of the core worlds separated from the old universe.
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if another crt will open, i have no problem for that
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Sure. I don't think I've said I disagree with that in this thread.
Garganta is never described as being the boundary that Yhwach intended to destroy. Also, who are we getting this information from? Tokinada? Who wasn't even there for the final fight?
Tokinada isn't stating that "If Ichigo hadn't stopped Yhwach, Yhwach would have destroyed the Garganta to return to the Universe where there is no cycling of souls."
That's my primary objection.
Going by Rukia's & Urahara's mention of the Universe collapsing, that too would include Hueco Mundo. Can somebody point it where it is stated that the Dangai needs to be connected to Hueco Mundo in order for Hueco Mundo to collapse?
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and even if he wanted to continue arguing that point the scan clearly says "boundaries" as well
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Tokinada, one of the noble families which we know have more information than anyone
no, he is stating YH would have destroy everything including the Boundaries which is also garganta
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The end result is that everything would be destroyed, yes. That is not the same thing as Yhwach destroying the Garganta first.
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We need to focus on the right one's thoughts, rather than one's thoughts, Damage's thoughts are not supported by anyone knowledgeable in bleach, and all members of Bleach-knowledgeable experts agree on one thing. At bleach dropping, Damage and all the other staff acknowledged that these worlds are Universes. They agreed that yhwach would destroy them, but they argued that it was with Almigthy, that is, it is not nice to sidestep right now while accepting that he can do it a crt ago, it is not a nice behavior, it is the staff who accepts that success is legitimate, so you need to waste time by going to other irrelevant issues. no. I think we should start discussing scaling as soon as possible
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Also, Garganta is technically not a boundary even. It's more like a container that houses everything. So even if we go by the iffy interpretation of it being a boundary, the boundary thing would simply be limited portions of it that is between the realms, and destruction of those "boundaries" =/= destruction of the entire garganta.
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How are you gonna discuss scaling for something that's not accepted?
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Tokinada quite literally saw the entire war. Are you forgetting he spent the entire time in the Seireitei surveillance room?
How do you think he retrieved Gremmy?
I also find it ridiculous your doubting the explanations of Tokinada the noble who discovered the literal truth as opposed to lie that’s been spread for a million years. It’s ridiculous.
How do you think he retrieved Gremmy?
I also find it ridiculous your doubting the explanations of Tokinada the noble who discovered the literal truth as opposed to lie that’s been spread for a million years. It’s ridiculous.
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Isn't that what was admitted in the previous crt "yhwach would destroy everything using the supreme and cosmology will evolve into the old universe" admit that yhwach can destroy in the previous crt, what is this crt changing? It has been proven that he did not do this with Almigthy, and while there is plenty of evidence that he will do it with his raw power, why is it still not accepted?
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there is nothing between the realms, garganta is the thing between then as stated on the manga, not to mention garganta was not a thing on the original world
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It was accepted in the previous CRT, why should it not be accepted even though nothing has changed in this CRT? What I mean from the previous crt is the drop crt
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Should mention tokinada was present for the events. He took advantage of that chaos to steal the blade that is sued by hikone
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The garganta can work as both. its the container, but not a hollow one. It is described as as being the fabric that holds the dimensions
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Changing views in light of new information is not an unheard of thing.
It's never been described as the fabric holding dimensions together.
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eh, What exactly does '' to remove the boundary itself between the worlds and return everything to primordial soup '' mean to you this ''everything'' means?
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Now you’re talking semantics here. This is once again the only structure that links all 3 worlds. It’s not an iffy interpretation it’s the only interpretation.
I don’t get what you mean by “portions between the realms”
Yhwach’s goal would require the entire thing to be destroyed. This is easy to understand when his goal is return everything to as it was before.
This is outright stated.
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that's nice to hear.
But I think that with your kwowledge in Bleach, you could understand there are enough proofs that actually support both scenarios.
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Can you tell us what the new information is, what is the new information that is emerging in this CRT that was not in the previous CRT?
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