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I agree with the op.
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Yhwach, Destroyer of Worlds (Bleach God Tier Revision)
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Rukia and Urahara say the "collapse of the Universe", not the "collapse of the Universes."
It seems to me that they're referring to the overall Bleach Cosmos collapsing if the two worlds (Soul Society and the World of the Living) end up overflowing into each other.
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the feat of creating and destroying is not using the hax of almighty but pure raw power/energy/strength
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I advise no one respond to Pain_to12 post above. It’s bad bait.
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The novels show us that the soul king created existing cosmology, the Stages. Let's say no, didn't he create it? It has been stated 27738383 times that yhwach's son could also destroy this cogmology. Should we ignore all of these? so writer: this character can destroy Universes
If we are: No, it cannot destroy, should we say it did not destroy even a continent?
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Yhwach isn’t destroying the worlds via an imbalance of souls. It’s clearly stated he would use his raw power.
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good argument if YH planed to destroy it via the imbalance of souls, which is not the case as we see at the end and statements from the novels
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ugh
ill start typing now then. Ill balance between work
someone relink damage's post going over the op pls
ill start typing now then. Ill balance between work
someone relink damage's post going over the op pls
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That's not my point. My point is that is the entire Universe will collapse via just the Soul Society and the World of the Living collapsing into each other, then all Yhwach would need to do is destroy the Dangai (which is described in the manga itself as the boundary keeping the souls from spilling over) and from there everything else would be destroyed. No need for him to destroy the Garganta itself.
Also are you arguing for him destroying the worlds via raw power or destroying the Garganta via raw power? There seems to be a contradiction now.
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What quincies are doing is causing a over flow of souls titling the balance causing a collapse. Not removing the boundaries like yhwach
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again, the dangai is nothing more than the bridge of SS and WOTL, HM is completely separated completely from it whereas garganta surrounds and encompasses all of them even allowing travel to places like the soul king palace
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Wasn't Garganta going to be destroyed when yhwach was fusing Living World and Soul Society?
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he was destroying, garganta, SS, WOTL and HM
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From Rukia's & Urahara's explanations, destroying the bridge will result in the collapse of the Universe and everything returning to the primordial world before life & death were separated.
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Uhhmmm all your feats are based on speculations thats my point, unless yhwach absorbs low 2C power, he is not becoming low 2C and I'm sure mimihagi and ichigo are not low 2C
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There is no contradiction to what I said. The point was raw power not the imbalance of souls. But if you want to nitpick he is going to destroy the Garganta which would destroy the worlds.
Again you don’t destroy the cosmology the way Yhwach wanted via this method. He wished to return everything to how it was originally. This includes destroying the Garganta which didn’t exist.
Destroying the Dangai wouldn’t effect all of creation in the way he wanted.
Again you don’t destroy the cosmology the way Yhwach wanted via this method. He wished to return everything to how it was originally. This includes destroying the Garganta which didn’t exist.
Destroying the Dangai wouldn’t effect all of creation in the way he wanted.
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Post in thread 'Yhwach, Destroyer of Worlds (Bleach God Tier Revision)'
https://vsbattles.com/threads/yhwac...-bleach-god-tier-revision.116084/post-3746638
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Don't engage with this post
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you can collapse the universe in two ways by disturbing the balance of the souls or starting with yhwach breaking the balance of the souls with raw power and then changing the mind and ending with deciding to do this with raw power by absorbing the reio i.e. yhwach aimed to destroy with his own power, as we have seen many times in the manga
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If he can destroy it when he's already fusing it, it has to mean he's strong enough to destroy it, and I don't have a problem with that.
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Like I said before, if you continue with the meaningless comments, I'll have to ban you from the thread. It's not like you've been productive lately, all you do is make comments like these.
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And then yall complain when it's staff only
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It doesn't actually say Yhwach would destroy the boundaries.
It says that the boundaries would have disappeared. Something that would have happened anyway going by the interpretation I mentioned up above of the Soul Society and the World of the Living collapsing eventually resulting in the complete collapse of the Universe.
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Tokinada's statement on the boundary removal
Tokinada here is stating that if ichigo not Defeated Yhwach the boundary would have been destroyed. Reio is not mentioned in this scene. Here tokinada is expressing displeasure that no one konw of ichigo's accomplishment and will never know.
If it's reference to Reio dying, recall ichigo failed miserably at that, twice. he killed reio and couldn't stop mimihagi's absorption as well.
Contextually this is referiing to ichigo's final fight with yhwach, not prior events.
Likewise, 684 shows this event was going top be caused by pure energy
Yhwach's plan argument
His original intention on panel is letting Reio die, sure, After that though, Askin makes it clear yhwach will destroy all three worlds
In chapter 680, yhwach performs his mass absorption. It is here clear by his dialogue that only can he achieve his goal directly:
While under kyoka suigetsu, he demonstrates yet again its via an energy aoe spreading outward
Tokinada here is stating that if ichigo not Defeated Yhwach the boundary would have been destroyed. Reio is not mentioned in this scene. Here tokinada is expressing displeasure that no one konw of ichigo's accomplishment and will never know.
If it's reference to Reio dying, recall ichigo failed miserably at that, twice. he killed reio and couldn't stop mimihagi's absorption as well.
Contextually this is referiing to ichigo's final fight with yhwach, not prior events.
Likewise, 684 shows this event was going top be caused by pure energy
Yhwach's plan argument
His original intention on panel is letting Reio die, sure, After that though, Askin makes it clear yhwach will destroy all three worlds
In chapter 680, yhwach performs his mass absorption. It is here clear by his dialogue that only can he achieve his goal directly:
While under kyoka suigetsu, he demonstrates yet again its via an energy aoe spreading outward
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can you make the size of the images a bit lower?Tokinada's statement on the boundary removal
Tokinada here is stating that if ichigo not Defeated Yhwach the boundary would have been destroyed. Reio is not mentioned in this scene. Here tokinada is expressing displeasure that no one konw of ichigo's accomplishment and will never know.
If it's reference to Reio dying, recall ichigo failed miserably at that, twice. he killed reio and couldn't stop mimihagi's absorption as well.
Contextually this is referiing to ichigo's final fight with yhwach, not prior events.
Likewise, 684 shows this event was going top be caused by pure energy
Yhwach's plan argument
His original intention on panel is letting Reio die, sure, After that though, Askin makes it clear yhwach will destroy all three worlds
In chapter 680, yhwach performs his mass absorption. It is here clear by his dialogue that only can he achieve his goal directly:
While under kyoka suigetsu, he demonstrates yet again its via an energy aoe spreading outward
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sorry for the length of this. this is my first post. my other will include everything else. im bouncing back between this and work
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Oh, don't worry, IRL is way more important than this, take your time
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done
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on the scans above u can see it does say "Boundaries"
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Please do take your time about it, then.
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Except this is completely wrong.
Yhwach was starting to destroy Soul society planet, the ground is literally collapsing, he wasn't destroying Dangai to destroy everything, it doesn't even make sense.
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until im back, would like thoughts on my post above
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Lets take it slow and allow Cyber to formulate his replies..since he is the main arguer in this thread and OP.
Take your time Cyber.
Take your time Cyber.
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is good
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Was there another staff member already dealing with bleach...
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and the opinion of the majority should not be taken less than the opinion of Damage. There are 10 people who agree with this issue and convey their arguments.
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unfortunately unless u are a mod ur vote does not count for much anything besides a vs debate thread
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