Yami ichika

[chosen]

Out of curiosity from what we know so far what ap ichika would have (base and samurai form) If she hypothetically had a Profile (ik for now she wouldn't)

 

[Epsilon_R]

She's gonna have a profile very soon

But she's gonna be High 6-A in base, upscaling from Asta 3.9 Petatons

 

[Azevedo128]

She's gonna have a profile very soon

But she's gonna be High 6-A in base, upscaling from Asta 3.9 Petatons

She shouldn't, her Black Samurai form is equal to a weaker Asta than the one who fought Lucius.

 

[Epsilon_R]

She shouldn't, her Black Samurai form is equal to a weaker Asta than the one who fought Lucius.

Black Samurai is equal to a stronger Asta actually, did you forget he was using Zetten. Not to mention Asta's statement of not beating Base Ichika with Devil Union.

 

[Azevedo128]

Black Samurai is equal to a stronger Asta actually, did you forget he was using Zetten. Not to mention Asta's statement of not beating Base Ichika with Devil Union.

She herself said in terms of magical abilities they were equal and that Zetten was going to be the thing that would decide who wins. Scan

Also Asta's statement shouldn't be used since it's obvious he was completely wrong. In the same chapter Asta was tanking kicks much stronger than the one that nearly KOd him in their fist fight just fine and he wasn't even using a Devil Union as strong as the one he used against Lucius(His DU when he fought Lucius covered both of his arms while the one he used against Ichika only covered one arm).

 

[Epsilon_R]

She herself said in terms of magical abilities they were equal and that Zetten was going to be the thing that would decide who wins. Scan

Okay? You've got your answer right there. She was referring to their skill in using magic/AM.
Nothing here indicates they're equal in AP. Even in their second battle you can see Asta was still getting pushed back each time she striked him.

Also Asta's statement shouldn't be used since it's obvious he was completely wrong. In the same chapter Asta was tanking kicks much stronger than the one that nearly KOd him in their fist just fine and he wasn't even using a Devil Union as strong as the one he used against Lucius(His DU when he fought Lucius covered both of his arms while the one he used against Ichika only covered one arm).

Partial Union works by using AM on parts of his body, which focuses the releases of Anti-Magic in order to last longer.

Saying this version of Asta is weaker than the one that fought Lucius just because he's covered by less AM is like saying the one that fought Lucius is weaker than Regular Devil Union for the same reasons.

Asta said he'd lost to her with Devil Union back, I don't see why you would say the opposite. Don't forget Asta grows stronger overtime, so him being "on par" with Ichika now doesn't mean he was back then.

 

[Azevedo128]

Okay? You've got your answer right there. She was referring to their skill in using magic/AM.
Nothing here indicates they're equal in AP. Even in their second battle you can see Asta was still getting pushed back each time she striked him.

Skill in that instance was obviously about their combat capabilities in general. Ryu even said that Ichika had a hard time hitting Asta when his guard was up so she attacked when he let his guard down. He was defeated because she out skilled him not overpowered him. Also Zetten is not something that Ichika is always spamming, she literally only uses it twice in her second fight.

Partial Union works by using AM on parts of his body, which focuses the releases of Anti-Magic in order to last longer.

Asta may still have the same level of powernull as full DU but AM is not what makes him faster/stronger in DU, that comes from Devil Power which Partial DU uses less of.

Saying this version of Asta is weaker than the one that fought Lucius just because he's covered by less AM is like saying the one that fought Lucius is weaker than Regular Devil Union for the same reasons.

Again Devil Power=/= Anti Magic

Asta said he'd lost to her with Devil Union back, I don't see why you would say the opposite. Don't forget Asta grows stronger overtime, so him being "on par" with Ichika now doesn't mean he was back then.

There's no mention of Asta becoming stronger since he entered the LOS aside from learning Zetten and he usually only gets stronger when he surpasses his limits which I don't think he has done yet in his training.