FateAlbane said:
Pretty much. SAVE/LOAD works much more like a mix of type 8 and Resurrection reliant on pre-existent timelines created prior to death or mid-battle.
...If it allowed people to come back from no timeline whatsoever and had any possible feats of allowing its users to come back post total multiversal obliteration along with themselves (unless it's Absolute Chara because lolAbstraction/lolreliantOnTheAnomaly's_PlayersDT), Asriel would straight up have High-Godly Regen in his profile by now since that would mean the ability really doesn't recquire anything else to work. The tiers of the verse in itself are where they are because we consider SAVE files = timelines. You bust them all along the user, no Loading is happening because there's nothing there nor any point in time to LOAD to.
Thus, unless evidence and a feat comes along for such an implied level of survivability, this point is moot. Either someone shows Asriel coming back from being destroyed alongside his multiverse and the very things he needs to use for resurrection, or he can't.
I should also mention that Asriel doesn't abuse SAVE/LOAD anywhere near as much as he's given credit for. He does not weaponize it like Omega Flowey at all.
In fact, though his files are there, he doesn't spam SAVE/LOAD scumming anywhere. Even less than that: He doesn't use it once throughout the entire fight as far as I can remember. Soul Absorption is the same thing. He only used it to reach his current form and never again. So, while my own point said "Goku will eventually nuke once he runs out of options/after seeing reset happen" , Asriel's isn't likely to be pulling any hax barrage on Goku out of nowhere from the get-go either.
It's obvious that Asriel doesn't have true godly, yes. I never argued that anyways.
Goku's info analysis comes from Future Warrior who can analysis techniques via the scouter. The problem is, it doesn't analyse every ability and hax, just basic techniques. At least goku would know about Asriel's basic danmaku attacks (like shocker breaker and others) and the hypergonner.
1.When does Goku use his info analysys in character anyways? 2.How his Sealing works?
"Asriel doesn't spam save and load in character. He is cocky"
While it's true that he didn't spam it on the pacifist route, the reason why he is cocky is because his fealings towards "Chara". Flowey/Asriel plays with the protagonist for a specific reason. He didn't have control over all time itself during the battle but that's because of Frisk. (he claimed that after deafeating frisk he can do that, and then reset everything) Even photoshop flowey can save and load on different files, and even base flowey can perfom a normal reset. Asriel will not have the same limitations against Xeno Goku for obvious reasons.
"Goku can nuke the multiverse"
Asriel has other methods of incapacitacion before goku would do that as i explained. If danmaku towards his soul is useless, then he will use other methods. Flowey/Asriel isn't dumb (Asriel seing Frisk being somewhat a threat, he uses his hypergonner. Flowey stoled the humans souls which implies that his personality is someone who takes advantage of things and not someone who plays when they are losing). If soul manipulation is useless and weak against Goku, what stops Asriel from using his other stuff?
Save and Load An old point of a timeline Goku's memories wouldn't know a future alternate timeline, so the chance of him considering nuking the multiverse will be "rewinded" (which isn't time rewind btw) as i explained.
Every time Photoshop Flowey loads, the fight goes into that save point of the timeline that it was saved. That "past" of tha timeline becomes the new "present" where the fights takes place. Can a Goku from a old point of a timeline remember what happened on a alternate/another future timeline?
This is totally diferent from a time rewind of the same timeline. Maybe you are confusing it with a normal reset which erase the progress and memories from the save file. Save and Load is different.
3. True Reset. That's it. Asriel can perfom this with ease.
