Xeno Goku and Demigra vs. Hajun and Mercurius

[Chasekilleen]

Mercurius Haju

Demigra Son Goku (Xeno)

No tiering, only feats allowed.

 

[Eganergo]

What?

Feats leads to tiering. Feats are the very thing that made them into the said tier.

 

[Darksmash]

Bruh Even if you ignore the tierings team 1 still loses by hax

 

[Chasekilleen]

How so?

What makes Shinza verse people more haxxy than Dragon Ball?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

"No tiering, only feats allowed."

You literally tier characters based on their feats.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

>Dragon ball hax being compared to Shinza verse hax



Hmmm?

 

[Chasekilleen]

"No tiering, only feats allowed."
You literally tier characters based on their feats.

I personally disagree with VSBW tiering. That's why I said no tiering.

and Dimensional tiering is also not allowed.

 

[EMS-TC02_Phantom]

I mean you could at least deadass familiarize yourself with either series before making a match. It's a stupid thread on Spacebattles and it's still a stupid thread even here. Even if you ignore all these tier 1 hogus bogus, the cosmology within Shinza would still be 2-A from the 2010 WoG and various other stuff i've yet to read properly myself, which makes them kinda bigger to boot, while the Dragon Ball games are only rated as 2-B here

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Any serious thread that is based on the tiers given to us by our profiles goes to the Versus Threads Board

Any versus matchup that does not adhere to our Tiering System has to go on either the Fun and Games Board or the General Discussions Board

 

[MYHERO]

Why do you exactly disagree with VBW's tiering?

 

[Chasekilleen]

Why do you exactly disagree with VBW's tiering?

To be fair, it's not actually the tiering, it's just sometimes people kind of take feats out of context and wank them and say that they are automatically high 1 or 2A.

I have disagreed with Gilgamesh being 2A, as the Moon Cell is only a supercomputer that generates a virtual replica world of Earth. But I believe it's to do with how vague the Moon Cell and also the lack of quality of the translations aspects.

I do not believe that Dante and Kratos should be that high IMO.

I do not recall the two of them being that powerful.

And I do not get how Featherine, a nigh-omnipotent character, is higher than God in DC comics, when it's high 1A?

I believe Featherine should be lowered to 1A and also there was a talk putting Nasuverse in the tier 1 system, which I heard from a friend that joined the VSBW Discord server.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Umineko verse are outdated just saying

No one has started revising the verse but Featherine is agreed to be somewhere in Tier 1

 

[MYHERO]

Well for your nigh omnipotent point, stuff like omnipotence has been considered obsolete for quite a while now. Featherine is that high as of rn because Umineko was considered to have an extremely huge cosmology that exceeded many outerversal series to boot which also included DC. But the verse is still under revisions (and probably will be forever) so tier 0 Featherine is not a guaranteed position that she will stay in.

 

[Jinsye]

Umineko is gonna be at least 1-B I'd say, possibly 1-Aif people feel like arguing it enough

 

[Dragomer]

Shouldn't this be closed since the verse is undergoing revision and the thread doesn't follow the rules of the site (since we can't use the pages) ?

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Featherine should probably be High 1-A at best. However that is a thread for another day.

Do you wish me to move this thread to another board @Chasekillen? Seeing as it isn't an official match that conforms to our standards?

 

[MYHERO]

Damn Ed just shows up the minute Umineko is mentioned lol

 

[Chasekilleen]

Shouldn't this be closed since the verse is undergoing revision and the thread doesn't follow the rules of the site (since we can't use the pages).

Which verse is undergoing revision?

Because if it's Umineko then this is not an Umineko battle.

 

[MYHERO]

Even if it's not an Umineko battle it still kinda violates the rules here so it will get closed either way. If you want you can redo this thread but on a fun and games board.

 

[Chasekilleen]

Well for your nigh omnipotent point, stuff like omnipotence has been considered obsolete for quite a while now. Featherine is that high as of rn because Umineko was considered to have an extremely huge cosmology that exceeded many outerversal series to boot which also included DC. But the verse is still under revisions (and probably will be forever) so tier 0 Featherine is not a guaranteed position that she will stay in.

I genuinely hate comicvine and them wanking CAS and Mandrakk and also Overvoid.

You should see users saying: "**** you, muh author statements are supreme" attitude and they literally think that CAS is omnipotent.

The toxicity on comicvine is unbelieveable and they say Superman powers up CAS in DC, so he automatically wins in every battle argument.

It's ridiculous.

A user said "magic doesn't exist in Umineko" When we know that magic exists in ither 07th Expansion works like Rose Gun and also Higurashi and also Ciconia.

It's a dumb argument because Featherine called her human vessel a temporary actor and used red truth in the episode of Umineko and she doesn't age one bit.

 

[MYHERO]

Or you can also just follow Julian's suggestion

 

[Chasekilleen]

Featherine should probably be High 1-A at best. However that is a thread for another day.
Do you wish me to move this thread to another board @Chasekillen? Seeing as it isn't an official match that conforms to our standards?

Yes please.

If you do not mind.

 

[MYHERO]

@Chasekilleen Well um Comicvine wasn't really what I was talking about.

But funny enough I know exactly what your talking about. I've seen those threads and I can probably guess the user you were referring to.

 

[Dragomer]

I'v seen a comic vine thread where the consensus was that SSJG Goku would lose to a thousand reaper from mass effect.

 

[Chasekilleen]

I'v seen a comic vine thread where the consensus was that SSJG Goku would lose to a thousand reaper from mass effect.

Someone said on comicvine that base Goku beats Featherine because "she has no feats" and also on Spacebattles they said that Featherine is "street level"

 

[Omegas03]

> Base Goku > Featherine.

LMAO

 

[Chasekilleen]

@Chasekilleen Well um Comicvine wasn't really what I was talking about.
But funny enough I know exactly what your talking about. I've seen those threads and I can probably guess the user you were referring to.

Yeah, I would go more in detail, but it'd be off-topic.

Just Saiyan, DC wank is legit something else on comicvine.

 

[Dragomer]

I'v seen a comic vine thread where the consensus was that SSJG Goku would lose to a thousand reaper from mass effect.

Someone said on comicvine that base Goku beats Featherine because "she has no feats" and also on Spacebattles they said that Featherine is "street level"

Don't know that character, so i can't say if it's dumb or not.

I'v seen people on spacebattle saying she was Megaversal too so i don't know which one is the more widespread opinion.

 

[Ionliosite]

Don't know that character, so i can't say if it's dumb or not.

Featherine Augustus Aurora. Very dumb.

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Should be AP equalized. But then Shinza Banshou still stomps via having superior hax.

 

[Omegas03]

Comicvine also loves to downplay or find excuses to DB featsƒæÇ

Imagine having SSB Goku at Planet or Star Level.

 

[Chasekilleen]

> Base Goku > Featherine.
LMAO

This is the same guy on Vine that says that Saitama is omnipotent

 

[Omegas03]

Finally, High 1-A Base Goku.

 

[Dragomer]

Don't know that character, so i can't say if it's dumb or not.

Featherine Augustus Aurora. Very dumb.

I just take site by site, they all have different standards, i wouldn't say a profile here is binding on comicvine or spacebattle, i meant that i don't actualy know the character, not that i don't know her rating here.

 

[MYHERO]

I respect Dragomer's line of thinking. Tho at the same time I also think just baseline knowledge of either characters will tell you who stomps who.

 

[Chasekilleen]

Comicvine also loves to downplay or find excuses to DB featsƒæÇ
Imagine having SSB Goku at Planet or Star Level.

I saw comicvine wank as well NGL.

They said that Goku defeats Dies Irae and also Umineko many times and also said that Goku was multiversal and stuff.

 

[Dragomer]

I respect Dragomer's line of thinking. Tho at the same time I also think just baseline knowledge of either characters will tell you who stomps who.

Probably just like a baseline knowledge would tell you Goku stomp 1000 reapers from mass effect but as i said, i lack said knowledge when it come to Featherine so i can't really say much when it come to her.

 

[Omegas03]

I guess I saw only the DB downplayer part of the website. Goku beating Tier 1 characters is nuts.

Comicvine downgrades Goku to 12-A when it comes to comparing him to Marvel or DC characters tho

 

[Chasekilleen]

I'v seen a comic vine thread where the consensus was that SSJG Goku would lose to a thousand reaper from mass effect.

Someone said on comicvine that base Goku beats Featherine because "she has no feats" and also on Spacebattles they said that Featherine is "street level"

Don't know that character, so i can't say if it's dumb or not.
I'v seen people on spacebattle saying she was Megaversal too so i don't know which one is the more widespread opinion.

She can basically wipe you off of the plot and stop the entire plot. A plot manipulator is what she is and someone put her up against Beerus in hand to hand combat LOL.

Not downlplaying Dragon Ball, but you know how stupid that is if she is only street level if she throws big crunches and big bangs and can manipulate the fiction she's in.

 

[MYHERO]

@Dragomer Well sometimes you just gotta hold your suspension of disbelief tight. Even at a baseline level if we go deeper we can be surprised with what we can find. I mean I knew Super Sonic was strong but I didn't know he was like low multiversal levels of strong (soon to be 2-B to boot)