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Feeling consequences does kinda go against him being evil then
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Writing Discussion Thread
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Clovis, Orange Boy, the second attempt at his chess game before forming the black bills, his obsession with protecting his sister when it was later discovered that she would've been fine, his big sister, using the Japanese resistant as pawns and they was fortunate of them that he won, he used the guise of self-righteous morality several times in order as an excuse to kill people, the killing of children out of anger in the cult attack, etc.Schnee One said:
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I mean, Evil Cole did feel the consequences of his actions at times, the death of Trish, having to kill Zeke, etc. You could even argue that his end goal in inFAMOUS 2 is noble. Being an Anti-Villain doesn't make you any less if a villain, it typically just makes you a better written one.Schnee One said:
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^ Usually does, unless you are a character like the Joker, but the character of the Joker is better as the antagonist than the protagonist.
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Except for in the movie anyways.
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Most classic comic-villains fit I suppose, anyone who has a confidence about his evilness and has fun doing so is a good antagonist in my book.
Though talking about specifics, Doctor Doom has always been the type of character who you knew morality-wise was wrong, but at the end of the day he himself was so confident and capable that you just bought whatever he said without exactly questioning him, until the hero pointed out his errors. He was basically like MCU Thanos, but unlike the purple grape he was actively tricking everyone for his own benefit, and wasn't doing it as a misguided idealist, but a shrewd trickster, so that mechanic makes him more interesting and controlled.
Also like, he's a villain-Mary Sue, which makes it far more interesting a character to beat
Though talking about specifics, Doctor Doom has always been the type of character who you knew morality-wise was wrong, but at the end of the day he himself was so confident and capable that you just bought whatever he said without exactly questioning him, until the hero pointed out his errors. He was basically like MCU Thanos, but unlike the purple grape he was actively tricking everyone for his own benefit, and wasn't doing it as a misguided idealist, but a shrewd trickster, so that mechanic makes him more interesting and controlled.
Also like, he's a villain-Mary Sue, which makes it far more interesting a character to beat
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That sounds like a good not-to-do list.
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Never expected to see Antvasima saying asshole.
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I like bad people/assholes in fiction if theyre done right. Always a thrill to see someone blatantly not do the right thing.
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Here is the story if anyone is interested:
https://www.deviantart.com/antvasima/art/Vile-Fables-For-Progressive-Children-Cover-387068123
https://www.mediaminer.org/fanfic/view_st.php/171755/
https://www.deviantart.com/antvasima/art/Vile-Fables-For-Progressive-Children-Cover-387068123
https://www.mediaminer.org/fanfic/view_st.php/171755/
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I want to hit them, and that's effort.
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@The God Of Procrastination
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@GojiBoyForever I was replying to you.
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Oh.
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I have begun writing an alternate ending for Revenge Of The Sith if anyone cares.
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Bump.
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Hoho..share writing ideas eh?
I've had so many different writing ideas in the past 2 1/2 years that I at least have 7 story boards written. All for different stories.
Riona, Ashton, Dungeon High School, Reincarnated as Seven Billion in One, Naneha, The Leveling Killer, Archeron, Shooter, Renna Of Another World, Blue Prodigy, Journey to Find A Deadbeat Hero, Evo Apocolypse 21,God's Madness, A World of War and Chaos, and Katekyo Hitman Reborn: Esther Saga
Actually, make that 15. The last three being fanfics..
I've had so many different writing ideas in the past 2 1/2 years that I at least have 7 story boards written. All for different stories.
Riona, Ashton, Dungeon High School, Reincarnated as Seven Billion in One, Naneha, The Leveling Killer, Archeron, Shooter, Renna Of Another World, Blue Prodigy, Journey to Find A Deadbeat Hero, Evo Apocolypse 21,God's Madness, A World of War and Chaos, and Katekyo Hitman Reborn: Esther Saga
Actually, make that 15. The last three being fanfics..
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In a world where people use magic for fighting, one girl uses it for building a nation.
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https://*********.com/Manga/A-Wage-Slave-is-Reincarnated-In-Isekai-It-s-Heartbreaking
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I was just saying that I expected him to use it.
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I don't use a Username script no
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What shows up for the user name script if you aren't logged in?
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Just the script
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Bump.
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I'm trying to construct my worldbuilding and I've run into the same problem the Street Fighter writers had with Charlie Nash.
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I'm not familiar with Street Fighter. Care to elaborate?
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As a person who hates SFVs story I'd love to see this
Basically, Charlie Nash was a character who Bison killed before being brought back to defeat Bison
Only to sacrifice himself to destroy him and not even kill him......
Basically, Charlie Nash was a character who Bison killed before being brought back to defeat Bison
Only to sacrifice himself to destroy him and not even kill him......
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There is a character in Street Fighter named Charlie Nash, who had several problematic traits, storytelling-wise, when he was introduced.
1. He was a benevolent figure who sided with the protagonists
2. He was incredibly powerful, able to do everything the protagonists could do but better and more effortlessly, and surpassed the vast majority of the cast in this regard
Thus they had to write him out of the story, for a very long period of time I might add, because everyone started pointing out "If Charlie Nash is just walking around, how are there still antagonists? Why do the protagonists need to do anything when Nash can just waltz in and kick everyone's asses whenever he wants?", so he was written out until the cast had grown to be as strong as he was before he was brought back.
1. He was a benevolent figure who sided with the protagonists
2. He was incredibly powerful, able to do everything the protagonists could do but better and more effortlessly, and surpassed the vast majority of the cast in this regard
Thus they had to write him out of the story, for a very long period of time I might add, because everyone started pointing out "If Charlie Nash is just walking around, how are there still antagonists? Why do the protagonists need to do anything when Nash can just waltz in and kick everyone's asses whenever he wants?", so he was written out until the cast had grown to be as strong as he was before he was brought back.
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Depends on the story. It very easily could, as it did in Spider-man 3, but I'd need some more context.
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Depends. If you're doing a more episodic thing like I am, then no. Because then you can just have a villain of the week formula.
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Are they a part of one organization?Legion350 said:
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If they're allied I don't think that's a problem as long as they have a dynamic on how they work with one another
Anyone know ORCA from Armored Core for Answer? Great example of an organizational antagonist
Anyone know ORCA from Armored Core for Answer? Great example of an organizational antagonist
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@Wright, so my issue is I have several characters who are invincible in-universe because they exist to be a demonstration of what the heroes will eventually become, but I don't know how to balance their presence in the story.
Like, I want them to be involved enough to demonstrate their abilities and get their cool moments and establish themselves as the peak of the powerscaling, but I don't want them to obliterate every arc villain before the heroes can do anything.
Like, I want them to be involved enough to demonstrate their abilities and get their cool moments and establish themselves as the peak of the powerscaling, but I don't want them to obliterate every arc villain before the heroes can do anything.
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