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Writing Discussion Thread

TartaChocholate said:
Ah, the "fake underdog" story. It pretends the MC is somehow given a bad hand in life because he supposedly has no talent and people hate him, but only as a way to establish the entirety of the cast as strawmen jerks the the MC will eventually put in their place when the MC turns out to be absurdly overpowered and show how badass he really is (his harem who always believed in him excluded, of course).

I have the same issue... I don't hate power systems or anything, but just don't get invested in them since the story never follows them and always breaks their rules for the sake of plot: in action shounens the MC will just ignore any limitation or consequence through willpower or friendship speeches, will achieve with "special training" in a lunchbreak skills that everybody takes years, and whenever they are in disadvantge they will just evolve midfight and end up winning due to tenacity or something; in Light Novels and such the MC will likely have this special unique skill that trivializes the entire system, flat out be good at everything, or if they are bad, they will just happen to develop a different skill and still unique skill that is a complete anti-meta strategy, pretty much giving him an unfair advantage.
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You know, funnily enough, this is one of the main flaws Dragon Ball does NOT have.
 
azontr said:
Solo Leveling:
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Bro just started a war against the fandom. He is not afraid!

Guys, read this:

Superhuman Battlefield Chapter 104 - Asura Scans

Superhuman Battlefield Chapter 104 - Asura Scans
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I am even making a profile (unfinished):
vsbattles.fandom.com

Seomoon Yeob

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You will be surprised by how good this series is. On God. It doesn't even have a fandom yet.

It might look like the generic manhwa where the MC becomes unstoppable in just a few chapters, but no. The fight choreography and how the MC is portrayed is absolute Cinema. Give it at least 15 chapters and you will love it!
 
I really like a series called dungeon life that uses a system. If.you dislike the concept I reccomend you look it up and give it a try I think it handles it really well
 
Actually wrote a story for the first time in a while and re-realized that writing an entire plot actually takes a lot of mental energy 🫠 🫠
 
azontr said:
Actually wrote a story for the first time in a while and re-realized that writing an entire plot actually takes a lot of mental energy 🫠 🫠
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Awww, poor Go/jo admirer (don't even think for a second that I'll ever forget your comment on Mori vs Gojo thread).
 
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
How do ya'll feel about taking heavy inspiration from existing characters when writing your OCs?
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I am rewriting my old web novel and as I go, I have started realizing something:

Akira (my MC) is miserable as fck.

Akira is this normal guy with average traits who just so happens to be at the wrong places at the right time. Akira seems fascinated by everything there is in this world, but he can't quite describe what he is feeling. Is he feeling wonder? Love? Envy?

He doesn't know. And throughout the book, he is shown to be nobody special. Other characters have far more interesting backstories and abilities. It isn't until volume three where we are told what his actual backstory is.

We are told that he was born with everything one could ever desire for in their life; a loving family, a warm home, and tons of happy memories to reminisce about. But it all changes one day.

His father's infidelity is revealed to his mother, causing her immense distress. Soon, they drift apart from each other. Akira, too young to understand anything, leaves with his mother. Even though he understood nothing, one thing was certain to him: his mother did nothing wrong.

The reason why his sister stays with their father is rather absurd: she hates Akira.

Long ago (about a year ago), before any of this, Akira and Akane (I can't name for shi) had a brother; his name was Shinji (fck!!). Their brother was five years older than them. He was a kind boy, who loved everyone and addressed them with respect. Akira and his sister looked up to their eldest sibling the most, wanting to be like him.

But one thing was certain; Shinji always favored Akira over his other sibling. Whether it was due to the fact that Akira was the youngest sibling or something else, Akane couldn't tell. The only thing she sure of was that Akira was stealing Shinji away from her. And she didn't like that one bit. As if that wasn't enough, Akira was favored by all of her friends as they often remarked how cute he was. She started resenting Akira deep inside, but she didn't realize just how deep this hatred would actually go.

Then on one unfortunate day, Akira was suddenly chosen to unlock his logos. It overwhelmed him with Prana and sensations. It got to the point where he couldn't even get up from the bed, falling into a slumber that felt like an eternity. Throughout this period, Shinji stayed by his brother's side, his resolve to protect his younger brother unwavering.

But the poor fella, his body soon fell ill to Akira's intoxicating prana. His consciousness split apart, pulling him in an eternal slumber.

Akira soon overcame his trials and came back to his senses, only to soon be met with the sight of his brother's lifeless body. He wasn't dead, of course not, but he couldn't wake up, nor could he feel anything.

This broke Akira's spirit. He couldn't comprehend anything, his mind went numb.

"What good did magic brought me?"

He asked himself over and over again, hiding in his room, crying, shouting into his pillow.

His sister soon left his side, all she said before that was:

"Why did you have to come into our life..? Monster."

Akira's spirit crushed further deep into the ground with this, marking his first steps as the "Wanderer."

Back to the present, we meet Akira further into the future. By now, he is fourteen and still living with his mother. Everything was perfect and beautiful; he went to meet his brother (who has yet to awaken) in the hospital every so often, got to learn about magic and machinery.

And we are back to suffering. Akira's mother meets her demise in the first awakening of the water dijin, shielding her child the best she could, she tried her best to keep her baby alive until her very last breath.

Akira started living with his aunt starting then.

There I was standing in the corner, watching my beloved aunt shed tears of sorrow and regret.

'Why couldn't it have been me?'

That's probably what she was thinking.

I could only stand there as I stared at her, helpless.

"Why couldn't it have been me?"

Soon his mother's funeral came to be.

My eyes skimmed through the surroundings, only one thing in my otherwise empty mind.

"Where are you, Akane?"

But alas, she was nowhere to be seen. How unoriginal; shattering my expectations.

Akira even met his father over there.

There I was, standing before my mother's very last essence on this world. No amount of words could describe how much I wish to see her. I still remember everything: her warmth, her smile, her habit of unintentionally pulling my cheeks till they turned red, how she always wanted to visit the land of freedom at least once in her life.

I remember it all.

"Why couldn't it be... me?"

"Because that would have broken her beyond repairs and you know it."

I felt a hand placed on my shoulder, one that was too familiar to not know who it belonged to. Trying to keep the pathetic side of me hidden, I mustered all the strength I could and spoke.

"Ah. You made it, father. I didn't expect to see you here, considering how your child hates her mother so much."

"Are you talking about your sister? She is abroad, preparing for her next match. I am sorry she could not make it."

"Figures. She prefers games over this? How fitting."

I say with a snarky smirk, as I head towards mother's grave, pushing aside father's hand.

"She wanted to be placed somewhere surrounded by roses. Look how they ruined it..."

I say, my voice almost coming off as a whisper. I could feel my eyes burning up with tears as I gently placed my hand on her tomb.

"She was so happy that I graduated my middle school with such flying grades..."

Father places a hand on my shoulder yet again, giving it a gentle squeeze.

"Just go away, father. You are not needed here."

He obliges, letting go of my shoulder. I heard his footsteps, they were so loud, so heavy. Yet they held no strength.

I then heard him stop dead on his tracks, and just stand there for a few moments.

"You know that I am doing the best I can, Akira."

I scoff.

"And look where that led mother."

He doesn't hate them, he just can't bring himself to care about them anymore. So he says.

He was heavily involved in Akane's life; from attending her graduation to helping her learn her first spell (she awakened her logos much later). He was also involved with his step siblings growth, much to his stepmother's delight.

In fact, Akira was the one who aspired his younger siblings to follow a righteous path.

But Akira's sufferings don't just end here, sadly.

His first love was actually an suicidal girl, who he saved and showed her how beautiful life could be. Buuuuuut, she still chooses to die in the end, deciding that she wants to die while she is at her happiest. Akira couldn't change her mind at all and had a last date with her (the first kiss of volume 1 finally happened!!).

After that, he was betrayed by his students and was frozen for an entire arc.

In the final volume (19), Akira had to fully accept his job as the bastard child of the sea, cleansing the world of the filth from the faraway lands. This apparently was a war that would go on for an eternity if it had to.

That marked the end of the first book. Second book is now written yet.

So yeah, Akira is miserable. Sorry, I don't know what the 12 year old me was cooking.
 
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I stopped writing when I was 12. It was nearly the end of the year, my birthday was next coming next week. Covid had just started spreading, and I was writing like usual in my room. It was honestly fun writing, and before I knew it; my webnovel was coming to an end. As a 12 year old, I of course, didn't know what I was doing. I was simply taking inspirations, sometimes straight up copying, from my favorite works. I wanted the ending to leave the people in daze, I wanted them to feel and remember it forever. Akira had, more or less, gathered a small fandom in his name. He was the sore loser that everyone loved and adored. My fandom (consisting of 4-6 people) patiently awaited the finale of the webnovel.

And so, I did what I had to; I gave room for people to make sense of the ending. Akira left, but not for an eternity or anything, while Cecilia awaited his arrival for days, which eventually turned to a decade. At the final scene, I showed Cecilia smiling as she stared at the night sky, besides her was a man. The man almost looked to be in his early twenties and had a simple get up. Cecilia leaned in and kissed him. The end.

Now this could mean two things; one, Akira did return and started a relationship with Cecilia; or two, Cecilia forgot about Akira and moved on to another man. The second was also plausible as Akira was the bastard child of sea, so his existence was akin to that of a singularity, existing in only one, best possible reality. And at the end of the series, he came to embrace his existence as the child of the sea, disconnecting him from the mortal realm. Now, Cecilia might be the direct saintess of a divine sect, but even she could succumb to the darkness of Akira's sea, causing her mind to corrode until she eventually forgets about him.

This was my masterpiece. My pride and joy that I had been working on for the past year. But not to others, it seems.

People were furious with this ending. There were more comments flooding my book than it ever had before. All pointing out how terrible the ending was. I was furious at this and before I knew it; I had already deleted all of the chapters since webnovel didn't allow you to delete books at that time. One by one, I unraveled my very own creation, tearing apart the hopes and dreams of all the characters I had made with so much love and care. I deleted the app and moved on with my life. It was the single most terrible mistake I had made. I could bring the chapters back, of courrs. But, what would the people say?

This thought stopped me from ever writing again. I guess it is alright? I was barely 13 at the time and being furious now wouldn't solve anything, anyway. And this year, I picked up my courage and started editing my novel, rewriting certain aspects and correcting the plot holes. At first, I could barely write and had no motivation, but slowly I began writing twice a week, and soon started writing everyday. I started making side chapters, new subplots, new chapters, and even rewrote the whole finale. I soon wish to publish my work to the public eyes again and this time, I won't be afraid.

So what I am trying to say is; it's okay to sometimes take a break and relax, you can always make a comeback. You are not writing for others, are you? And if you ever feel stuck, just ask yourself, "What made me pick up the pen?" It would probably motivate you again. And if it doesn't, that's fine. Everybody has ups and downs, the thing is that it's never too late. Just pick your tablet or pen and paper, or just about anything, and just start writing.

Remember that you are not doing this for others, you simply want to show the world you created to others and maybe become the light of hope to someone's life. Writing is not a art, it's a expression, of love and wonder, and awe and so much more. Just write, write until your heart clenches in joy and your eyes burns with tears.

That's about it, yeah. And my daily 10 minutes writing is done! Yoohooo! Hope you found at least some bit of confidence from this post. Bye~ have a great day!
 
I need some writing advice of sorts. So I started a fantasy novel set in the Victorian Era, but I was thinking of doing a time skip of sorts. But the problem, is that the word “Victorian” is in the title. As a reader, would you feel cheated?
 
Legion350 said:
I need some writing advice of sorts. So I started a fantasy novel set in the Victorian Era, but I was thinking of doing a time skip of sorts. But the problem, is that the word “Victorian” is in the title. As a reader, would you feel cheated?
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The title does set up a lot of the expectations for the story. You can learn a lot about a story from the title, though not always. If you're going to put "Victorian" in the title, something very specific, but have the story have little to do with the era it's named after, I think most readers would be confused, since they were likely drawn to the story via mentioning of a specific era.
 
Legion350 said:
I need some writing advice of sorts. So I started a fantasy novel set in the Victorian Era, but I was thinking of doing a time skip of sorts. But the problem, is that the word “Victorian” is in the title. As a reader, would you feel cheated?
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Well I largly agree with the above you have a few options

Many fantasy novels have an ever green trope, that is to say today 100 years ago 100 years in the future is all the Victorian setting. Just an ever green Victorian (steampunk dose this alot)

You could also put the time skip towards the end of the book. That could help with the expectation managing or you could change the title,

But ignoring the issue and just moving forward is always an option
 
Only, the first quarter of the novel is in the actual Victorian Era. The rest is pre-WW1 to the end of WW1, at least with my current plans. Hmm, I might just have to modify the story a pinch. I think I might make the story more obviously alt history. So technically it would still be Victorian.
 
If the novel doesn't focus specifically on that era then I don't see a reason to include it in the title. You should preferably shift the title to be more generally historic.
 
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