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Writing Discussion Thread

Did you guys ever write cringe fanfictions when you were younger?
Oh man, I do that a ton. I still look back at them fondly
Which series did you make a fanfic of?
I wrote about a ton of series, my favorite genre back then was crossover fanfics and god, I have a ton. Considering the stuff I write now, I guess not much has changed.

Some of the highlights include:
*TF2
*Undertale
*Pokemon
*West of Loathing
*Slasher Movies
*Alien
*DC/Marvel
*Assassin's Creed
*Clash of Clans
*My Little Pony
*Tangled
*Dying Light
*Slime Rancher
*The Evil Within
*Don't Starve
*Dead Rising
*Bioshock
*Far Cry
*Detroit: Become Human
*Plants vs Zombies
*Resident Evil

And others I can't remember.

Most of the time, the general premise is having all of my favorite characters together fighting off a great evil (Man, that sounds familiar). It's also a great and funny way to see them interact and the shenanigans that come from it (Huh, that also sounds familiar)
 
Group teens trapped in another world, there home world is more comic booky with super powers and super spies, the world they arrived in is more finl fantasy with magic vs science dynamics.
 
Group teens trapped in another world, there home world is more comic booky with super powers and super spies, the world they arrived in is more finl fantasy with magic vs science dynamics.
Along with them is ab old girziled adult that under normal circumstances they could never trust as normally he'd trade any of them for himself in a heart beat but- due to a borg like collective conversion gone wrong him and the kind soft one's mind becomes partly merged so he can not stand the idea of any of them being hurt anymore then she can.

Plot twist the girl and him were trapped together form weeks before the experiment, and he could have freed himself at any time, but messed up the experiment on purpose to ensure his mind and the girl's would be entangled, as he calculated his only chance of survival was with a group and he knew he could never be trusted under normal circumstances.

Edit: twist again, the girl already knew all that he told her before they met up with the group it was her idea not to tell them because it would make getting home more difficult.


Edit 2: it's revealed after it being reluctantly hidden that the man and the girl are protective of each because due to the experiment they view eachother as themselves on a subconscious level so there own survival instincts kick in if the other is danger.


Plot twist- because the girl is willing to die for her friends, the man is able to sacrifice her to save the others, there all pissed at him for letting there friend die, and aren't sure if there safe from him anymore, he insists it all still applies and there almost home, so they push forward.
 
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Did you guys ever write cringe fanfictions when you were younger?
My first ever fanfic was a Pokémon comic I made at like age 6, and it was like 50% "Guy sees Pokémon, guy catches Pokémon," and he had Mew by like the second chapter. Not even a self-insert, because the MC was like a 40-year-old bald man.

Lost the first 2 pages of it at one point though.
 
My first ever fanfic was a Pokémon comic I made at like age 6, and it was like 50% "Guy sees Pokémon, guy catches Pokémon," and he had Mew by like the second chapter. Not even a self-insert, because the MC was like a 40-year-old bald man.

Lost the first 2 pages of it at one point though.
Did you ever post it online?
 
Along with them is ab old girziled adult that under normal circumstances they could never trust as normally he'd trade any of them for himself in a heart beat but- due to a borg like collective conversion gone wrong him and the kind soft one's mind becomes partly merged so he can not stand the idea of any of them being hurt anymore then she can.

Plot twist the girl and him were trapped together form weeks before the experiment, and he could have freed himself at any time, but messed up the experiment on purpose to ensure his mind and the girl's would be entangled, as he calculated his only chance of survival was with a group and he knew he could never be trusted under normal circumstances.

Edit: twist again, the girl already knew all that he told her before they met up with the group it was her idea not to tell them because it would make getting home more difficult.


Edit 2: it's revealed after it being reluctantly hidden that the man and the girl are protective of each because due to the experiment they view each other as themselves on a subconscious level so there own survival instincts kick in if the other is danger.


Plot twist- because the girl is willing to die for her friends, the man is able to sacrifice her to save the others, there all pissed at him for letting there friend die, and aren't sure if there safe from him anymore, he insists it all still applies and there almost home, so they push forward.
dang, that's a ton of twists. I assume with the complexity of what is probably not the main character, you're fine with juggling the arcs of a decently-sized cast?
 
dang, that's a ton of twists. I assume with the complexity of what is probably not the main character, you're fine with juggling the arcs of a decently-sized cast?
I thought of my prior comment in isolation, not really connected to anything, I'd love to be able to do that but I'm not entirely sure it I can (tho I would make the girzzled untrustworthy man the focal point of the story, as a sort of outsider looking in to the genre I'm invoking by using teenagers with super powers)
 
What were some of your worst writing ideas? (I just want this thread to continue and not die)
Unless it is obscene or offensive for no purpose or out of pure spite, I would say the only "bad" ideas are ones which detract from your initial intentions of the story and central narrative truths.

I had a friend who would ask me for "writing advice," but all they would offer to me for critique were ideas, all of which could've contributed towards a story, but not necessarily the story they were trying to tell. They often became so obsessed with the "quality" of their ideas that it prevented them from actually writing. I think this is common for many aspiring writers.
 
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I once started a mid fanfic based off the idea of time passing normally in DC Universe. It started with the Golden Age, and last time I worked on it, it was in the Dark Age lol.
 
Writing ideas modern gods,

Athena is the tec side of war, commonly depicted in a lab coat that also sometimes flaps back to look like a cape and a under shirt, she represents the advancement of technology through war and using it effectivly,

Areas is the human side of war, repersenting the mind set needed to partake in war and everything that makes a effective human soldier.

Both believe in war as a means to an end, to try to gain something not just as a tool of terror or to harm a people. And neither believes in tactics that cause unnecessary suffering (of course if you had to do it to win they wouldn't see it as unnecessary)
 
Read too much cultivation and system stuff back in the COVID period. Good days.. good days..
Talking about this... Am I the only one who despise the system trope?

I get it, sometimes it's cool and all, but 99% of the stories I've read containing systems ends up with the MC being either over-reliant on it or straight up dependent of it.

Worst part about this is that most of those MCs are the typical "loser/rank F hunter/Low tier talentless cultivator" who ends up monologuing about how the world is unfair because some people are stronger and treat him like shit, yet, they gain power due to pure luck (if not due to plot) and ends up doing the very same shit they were against.
 
Talking about this... Am I the only one who despise the system trope?

I get it, sometimes it's cool and all, but 99% of the stories I've read containing systems ends up with the MC being either over-reliant on it or straight up dependent of it.

Worst part about this is that most of those MCs are the typical "loser/rank F hunter/Low tier talentless cultivator" who ends up monologuing about how the world is unfair because some people are stronger and treat him like shit, yet, they gain power due to pure luck (if not due to plot) and ends up doing the very same shit they were against.
You are not the only one. But because there are so many manhwas and mangas with the same concept that people can't help but read them.

You should read shadow slave if you want an original experience with good world building.
 
I have a hard time telling what type my setting uses but I think it is soft magic with some individual forms of magic have been understood to a degree similar to a hard system.
 
I have a hard time telling what type my setting uses but I think it is soft magic with some individual forms of magic have been understood to a degree similar to a hard system.
I see. I mostly do hard magic system because I like thinking of new ideas (I suck at naming, though). Naming is where all my time goes.
 
Soft magic is useful when rules would get in the way, but it results in magic sometimes feeling like a deus ex machina. I let the god like beings do pretty much whatever as long as the other god like beings aren't involved. The others don't deal with super concrete rules but some they are only able to do things related to the forms of magic that they understand and aren't obviously greater than other things they are doing.
 
Regarding magic systems do you perfer hard or soft systems.
I don't have a strong preference for either type when I'm reading or consuming media, I've seen really cool examples that fall into both categories. For my own writing I tend to have a bit of range. Generally, I my systems tend to fall around the center. Most of my main setting tends to slightly lean towards having softer magic with some guiding principles and restrictions. It's nowhere near as hard of a system as FMA. The closer characters get to being "divine" the less restrictions. The outright deities have very few outright restrictions in comparison outside of other deities, and things of that nature. Overall, I like to have rules and structure for general magic that are malleable to not restrict the plot, but don't completely break everything. I think harder system give a stronger sense of logic and reason, while softer magic tends to impart an almost mystical sense. My magic system rn isn't 100% done, but there are very few absolute rules throughout its entirety. I also have different sub systems that I'm working on.

An example of the type of "soft" limitation I have, is that unbound flight, resurrection, time travel, creation, and absolute destruction magic is in some ways nigh impossible. In regard to how this plays out in the story, it's generally accepted as being impossible to truly create or destroy something with magic for mages, with very limited caveats. So, the "destruction magic" closest to true annihilation for 99% of mages breaks down targets into veeeeery small (as in subatomic or smaller particles. With that being said it is possible erase things, but that's considered to be the divine form. Alteration magic is a close approximate to creation magic, as in matter manipulation and alchemy, it's one of the hardest forms of magic to pull off. The closest thing possible for resurrection is generally either necromancy or advanced healing. Unbound flight is an idea inspired by Avatar which makes it impossible to fly using magic under most circumstances. By unbound I mean without any external aid, so wings or technological advances are outside the scope. It would be more like Superman's flight. Levitation is more feasible but it's difficult to sustain, is generally a sign of spiritual or magical advancement. Time Travel isn't exactly possible under normal circumstances. Most of these rules are what I call "soft impossible" as in there are barriers preventing them, but they can technically be done. And again, this doesn't really apply to gods. A deity could resurrect anyone they wanted, create, destroy, etc. But this doesn't really happen due to several factors. There are different types of gods, but they have intergroup rules instead of hard limits. Some random gods could bring back whoever they want, but that would of course make Death angry.

TLDR:
My magic system leans on the softer side, because there aren't any real rigid rules to them. Among non-divines their magic has "soft laws". But the main limitations binding gods are mostly from either other gods or lack of skill instead of being caused by "laws". So, I generally refer to my magic as a mixed system, because it's not magic that's limited, it's always a user limitation in some way.
 
What even is a hard or soft magic system
Basically hard magic is a defined magic system aka you understand what the magic will do and when, think of dnd where there is literally rules for it as a very hard magic system

On the opposite end of the spectrum is a soft magic system usually used to invoke wonder and the idea of "I don't understand this but I believe someone dose" is common here. Think lord of the rings.
 
What even is a hard or soft magic system
Hard magic system: Have defined rules and constraints, practically limited. Usually use energy (mana, qi, chakra, etc) or other limited magic source (willpower, material, etc).

Soft magic system: Doesn't have defined rules and constraints, can be unlimited in uses. Bordering that of Deus ex Machina.
 
I think the whole "hard" vs "soft" magic argument is just an arbitrary, constricting framework to which authors bind themselves. It's really less of a binary and more so a spectrum of world-building elements. I don't necessarily have a preference as either an audience member or an author because I believe, as with any diegetic object, its value is determined by how well it expresses an underlying intentionality. That being said, some of my favorite "magic" systems in fiction, such as True Magick in Mage: The Ascension, allow for a great degree of freedom within strict yet broad limitations.
 
I've literally never even heard the terms until now. Whenever I create a magic system for a setting, I don't worry about whether it's "hard" or "soft", i just think about whether it's interesting and makes sense for the world.
Exactly, this is basically what I've been saying. Those terms don't really exist to help authors, in my opinion.
 
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