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Writing Discussion Thread

Deidalius said:
How do y'all decide on how to name terms and characters in your story? I can't decide. I spend hours just trying to think of how to name things and characters rather than writing.
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I get a general feel of the personality of the character when I'm creating them, and then combine stuff until I go "oh yeah, that's this character" (unless it's a character made to subvert expectations, then I go for something that's unfitting lol).

Alternatively, if there are aspects of the character you'd like to highlight, you could look up names and surnames that communicate that. For instance, if I wanted to create a character and emphasize how he's rich and arrogant, but empty on the inside, sometimes I Google "boy names meaning proud" and "boy names meaning hollow". From that, you can get stuff like Cassian Garvit (Cassian meaning "hollow" and Garvit meaning "proud or filled with pride").

EDIT: I lowkey just said the same thing @H3110l12345I20 said lol
 
Pepsiman25th said:
A story I created for a characters backstory
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Alright so...

I'm gonna assume this is just an outline? Since it felt kinda odd with how many characters started randomly appearing at the last and middle parts. Like, I'm surprised Raider had any friends, let alone ones that would sacrifice their lives for him or a family he cares about. Hell, I was even more surprised that he was old enough to have a grandchild.

Also I assume the dragonoid is somewhat human-sized? Since I'm not sure how it'd be able to stab someone.

Now another thing I have an issue with is his character development. Honestly I didn't really understand how he learned his lesson from having everyone around him killed. It's not like he wasn't doing his job or deliberately sacrificed the people around him, unironically he just wasn't strong enough. At least his actions are somewhat consistent, training to get stronger, being less egoistic, and actually aiming to help people.

Lastly regarding the potential. I'm gonna assume he's gonna be some sort of mentor figure? I mean, he's pretty damn old and is training a trio of 2 boys and 1 girl. Is this gonna be the main focus or just something revealed every once in a while throughout the story?

Either way, seems cool
 
Peppersalt43 said:
Alright so...

I'm gonna assume this is just an outline? Since it felt kinda odd with how many characters started randomly appearing at the last and middle parts. Like, I'm surprised Raider had any friends, let alone ones that would sacrifice their lives for him or a family he cares about. Hell, I was even more surprised that he was old enough to have a grandchild.

Also I assume the dragonoid is somewhat human-sized? Since I'm not sure how it'd be able to stab someone.

Now another thing I have an issue with is his character development. Honestly I didn't really understand how he learned his lesson from having everyone around him killed. It's not like he wasn't doing his job or deliberately sacrificed the people around him, unironically he just wasn't strong enough. At least his actions are somewhat consistent, training to get stronger, being less egoistic, and actually aiming to help people.

Lastly regarding the potential. I'm gonna assume he's gonna be some sort of mentor figure? I mean, he's pretty damn old and is training a trio of 2 boys and 1 girl. Is this gonna be the main focus or just something revealed every once in a while throughout the story?

Either way, seems cool
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yeah, its kinda hard to grasp if you dont know the background/context.

Its more of a backstory for him.
 
Peppersalt43 said:
Here's my favorite one to use
www.behindthename.com

Random Name Generator

This random name generator can suggest names for babies, characters, or anything else that needs naming.
www.behindthename.com www.behindthename.com
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Been designing some characters to use in a story. Nothing great by any means though, my ""art"" is pretty crap, but it does help to visualize the characters in the narrative. Thing is, this little gem you shared has been helluva useful.
 
Peppersalt43 said:
Ah, I assume it helps you solidify the vibes you want? Or is it to find the meanings behind certain names and match them with the characters?
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Mostly find fitting names for the chars that also have a good ring to them. I know I mentioned I look around in mythology, folklore and stuff, but that can be pretty hit or miss and very time consuming. This really speeds up the process. And this is also a neat bonus, many times I did find a name with a meaning that fit the character, but didn't like how it sounded or vice-versa, found a nice sounding name but the meaning didn't fit the character at all.

Does help the Behind the name page allows you to search real names by themes, location, types and many other categories, which is what I am using the most.
 
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Peppersalt43 said:
Alright so...

I'm gonna assume this is just an outline? Since it felt kinda odd with how many characters started randomly appearing at the last and middle parts. Like, I'm surprised Raider had any friends, let alone ones that would sacrifice their lives for him or a family he cares about. Hell, I was even more surprised that he was old enough to have a grandchild.

Also I assume the dragonoid is somewhat human-sized? Since I'm not sure how it'd be able to stab someone.

Now another thing I have an issue with is his character development. Honestly I didn't really understand how he learned his lesson from having everyone around him killed. It's not like he wasn't doing his job or deliberately sacrificed the people around him, unironically he just wasn't strong enough. At least his actions are somewhat consistent, training to get stronger, being less egoistic, and actually aiming to help people.

Lastly regarding the potential. I'm gonna assume he's gonna be some sort of mentor figure? I mean, he's pretty damn old and is training a trio of 2 boys and 1 girl. Is this gonna be the main focus or just something revealed every once in a while throughout the story?

Either way, seems cool
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I redid everything in Raiders story

If you can reread it and tell me how it is, that would be appreciated

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RE-NZUci6FkiwLp-XutQNdBqbg9xizDDz3UrL77TvZ4/edit?usp=sharing
 
Pepsiman25th said:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RE-NZUci6FkiwLp-XutQNdBqbg9xizDDz3UrL77TvZ4/edit?usp=sharing
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Alright so...

Nice to see that he's kinda younger, this time it's his daughter that's dead. Also I do like that his relationship with his friends were developed better (And that he had a child with one of them which explains how he even had a child).

The character development makes a lot more sense this time, realizing that his strength wasn't of any use against this one enemy as well as a change in what his goals when he lost what he had are pretty good. An issue I realized though is that I wasn't sure if Mira was dead or not, she gets brought up a lot and becomes one of Raider's motivations but in the scene where he comes back, it seems to specify that both his mother and daughter are dead.

Lastly regarding potential, it seems like it's gonna be a lot harder for all of this development to be revealed on account of the group splitting at the end. I assume they're gonna reunite eventually? Since all these flashbacks seem difficult to tell from a third party
 
I'm split on this decision. Should I use powerscaling to maintain consistency of my future stories? Or should I ignore it regardless of power level consistency because I care more about writing a good story than making a bunch of godmodes?
I'll list a timestamp segment just to show why I'm split here:
3m31s-5m42s here:
 
H3110l12345I20 said:
I'm split on this decision. Should I use powerscaling to maintain consistency of my future stories? Or should I ignore it regardless of power level consistency because I care more about writing a good story than making a bunch of godmodes?
I'll list a timestamp segment just to show why I'm split here:
3m31s-5m42s here:
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Okay-- as someone who doesn't care for powerscaling in stories colliding: here's the scoop

Select a tier for your cast, preferably not something over tier 8 unless that's where you want your story to go, and keep it in mind as you write, rinse and repeat for Speed and LS, beyond that, powerscaling shouldn't matter.
 
DaReaperMan said:
Select a tier for your cast, preferably not something over tier 8 unless that's where you want your story to go, and keep it in mind as you write, rinse and repeat for SS and LS, beyond that, powerscaling shouldn't matter.
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That or make it extremely simplistic. I have a story where most of the cast are split between Low-Tiers (Mostly civilians and people with low durability), Mid-Tiers (Most of the cast is here), High-Tiers (People who are considered to be strong in-verse), and God-Tiers (There are only like, 3 people here. Reserved for the finale)
 
Thank you everyone for the feedback. I'm also trying to set guidelines for myself in using power scaling so I and potentially future people will be incentivized to create good stories than godmodes. This is for the purposes of quality control. So, how do the rules look and should there be any areas of improvement?
 
H3110l12345I20 said:
I'm split on this decision. Should I use powerscaling to maintain consistency of my future stories? Or should I ignore it regardless of power level consistency because I care more about writing a good story than making a bunch of godmodes?
I'll list a timestamp segment just to show why I'm split here:
3m31s-5m42s here:
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Powerscaling matters, but only because Internal Consistency matters, not because the joules required to break fictional concrete are meaningful.
 
What's are y'alls thoughts on action scenes on the first chapter? Would it be better to add a slower pace to it? Like have the chapter explore the character typical life?
 
Rutæhh said:
Do any of you have certain apps/website you use to plan a story? Would like to hear suggestions
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For me, a late senior. Even a couple of years before, I still had some tools to plan an outline, like notebooks and google products like google docs.

As a poor man strat, I used google docs to make profile outlines, profiles and scripts.

This is a verse outline I use for my profiles:

Verse Profile Page Format​

Explanation​

(Top)

(Most of these sections are self explanatory unless stated otherwise or elaborated on. Every section should have correct grammar & complete sentences, with the latter minimum quantity being 1 complete sentence. Every section with an indent is optional unless necessary. Every section with bold should be filled out)
(Title)
(Picture; optional unless if the profile will be public)
“(quote (optional))”
Summary:

Rating: The intended rating of the canon in question. Note that while books and text media may be less direct in their content rating, this system can use the same rating system for Visual media to make things more simple, ore to specify an intended age range. Put “equivalent” after a visual media-based rating for doing any primarily-text media.
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

History: (History of the verse be written here if it can be shortened as much as possible without sacrificing major details. Although a timeline of events can be listed in the timeline section below the history section)
Timeline
  • (Format: ([Event Name] ([Event Date]): [Event Description]))

Inspiration: (Inspiration for the continuity in question)

Main Premise: (Should be summarized in one sentence only)

Major Characters: (Characters most important to the story’s plot)

Major Plotline(s): (Plot most important to the story’s plot)
Character Development: (How your major characters develop throughout the plotlines)

Power Limitations: (The power limits that should be imposed onto the entities in the story, otherwise there’s bad or no plot/character development)

Prose: (How the sentences & words are picked & chosen to be written)

Rules & Laws: (The universal rules/laws &/or entity-imposed restrictions on the continuity)

Setting:
Culture(s): (The different types of cultures & peoples that live in the continuity)
Environment(s): (The types environments that exist across the canon)

Terminology: (The (major) continuity-exclusive terms frequently used to express it’s canon-exclusive major concepts/entities)

Theme(s): (The major theme(s) of the continuity)
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

References:
  • [1] (link)
  • [2] (link)
  • etc.
Copy vvv
_________
Summary:
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

History:

Inspiration:

Main Premise:

Major Characters:

Major Plotline(s):

Power Limitations:

Prose:

Rules & Laws:

Setting:

Theme(s):
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

References:
  • [1] (link)
  • [2] (link)
  • etc.

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Copy ^^^

Sources & Ideas:
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

How I do scripts is I outline short summaries of chapters/large segments, and break each of them down into smaller events. And with the smaller ones, I type a script for each.

Visual:
  • (Ch summary)
    • Ch event 1
(Script)
  • event 2
 
Rutæhh said:
What's are y'alls thoughts on action scenes on the first chapter? Would it be better to add a slower pace to it? Like have the chapter explore the character typical life?
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Depends on your story!

Opening with ah action scene or the end of one can reveal certain facts about either main characters, heavy hitters in future, or both. Basically, you can use it to build suspense later when certain characters match the descriptions of the people in your opening story.
 
Rutæhh said:
What's are y'alls thoughts on action scenes on the first chapter? Would it be better to add a slower pace to it? Like have the chapter explore the character typical life?
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It can also serve as a good initial hook for the reader. Kinda... offer them something exciting to look forward to, but also set up certain elements that will be explored later, like who is the person fighting, the powers used and how they are related to the lore, a future conflict, the enemies, etc.
 
I am writing a webnovel, rate my works! Be free to harshly criticize my errors on the work, I will try to improve.

These are some of his quotes:

"Do you really believe in God? Do you really pray to God? If so, why do you so desperately preach about being a devotee so loudly to others? Like you want to be heard loud and clear. Why do you want to show others? Let me guess, to make them think that you are good? To show them that you are kind? Pathetic! You just want to look good in others' eyes. You are no devotee; you are just a faker. You know what's more sinful than not believing in God? Shouting to others about being his follower for praise. A pathetic scheme to get others's attention. To get their praise for your utterly fake devotion... simply pathetic."

"Sometimes.. it just feels like I am living in a world made of glass. Everything is so fragile, that if I let loose even a bit, everything will break. I am capable of so much more.. so much more, but the world stops me from doing so."

I hate myself.

I hate that I think so highly of myself. My arrogance, my rebellious charade.

What even are all that? Pathetic!

I hate the way I think she's in love just because she's nice to me. I know it, alright?! But even so.. but even so! I lie! I lie to myself!

I hate the way I grin! The way I look at her!

I hate it when I grin at the message she replies to.

I hate it when I don't put my phone down, waiting for her reply.

I hate the way I talk to her.

I hate how I always want to meet her.

I hate, hate, hate! Myself...
.

Some spoilers:

Unfamiliar grass, unfamiliar air, unfamiliar trees, and a very familiar bus with its rear end completely wrecked.

Yup, there's no doubting it; I have been isekaid.

And this is probably a world similar to a novel that I didn't get to pick up because I was so focused on studying.

This just goes on to show how bad the education system nowadays is. If I wasn't there worrying about my grades, then I would have surely been prepared for this type of situation.

Now I will die due to some old geezer not being satisfied with a two page long essay. It was a nice life while it lasted, I have no regrets. Although some parts were shit, especially the "Boku" experience.

I was simply naive back then, but not anymore. If only I had more time...

"Unobtainable."

Akira moved forward his body, his sole focus on the muscle he was using; no extra movements were made. No excessive expressions made, no excessive stress taken.

None of the energy he poured was wasted, every bit of it focused solely on a single part of his body. In this case, his foot and his sole.

He didn't know if it was instinct or habit, but he wasn't thinking about his next move anymore, rather his body already moved before his thoughts could catch up to him.

"Silat, Taekwondo, Muay Thai, Kendo, and all the martial techniques I know of."

Akira twists his body, raising his leg up, then striking down at the Hedgehog's head.

Getting hit by such force, the Hedgehog shook its head and tried backing further away, only to be met with a flurry of ferocious strikes, each one stronger than the previous ones.

"Everything that I know of has become one and the same. Not a technique nor a art, simply becoming ideas that fuel my strikes."

Akira explains, swiping his legs at the Hedgehog's, faltering its balance.

"Everyone of my bones, muscles, and everything has become my weapon."

Akira whispers, kneeing the Hedgehog straight in its guts.

The Hedgehog felt a surge of pain as it fell back, gasping for air.

It couldn't breathe, nor could it bleed or feel pain. But in the presence of a being such as Akira, it all became irrelevant.


So he ran.

He ran so far, so fast, not even the universe could possibly comprehend what was happening.

His shape?

Unknown.

His speed?

Unknown.

His mass?

Unknown.

How long had he been running?

Unknown.

The universe itself couldn't come to think of what Akira was, how he looked, where he was, what he was doing.

Akira had left everything in the universe far behind, so far behind that not even the abysmal beasts know of such depth.

Sound, light, gravity, matter, space, even time.

Everything was so... diluted.

In his presence, everything seemed so bleak and worthless.

He was the only real person—everything else was just there, for the sake of being there.

"Basically, you are cooked."

Saying this much, Akira continued, showering the Hedgehog with a flurry of fists. Hedgehog was ever so desperate to escape Akira's clutches, but at the speed Akira was throwing his punches at; it was impossible for Hedgehog to even comprehend what was happening. There was no pause, no interval—basically, they were instantaneous movements. If only there was a lag between Akira moving his hands forward and his fists landing. But the Hedgehog could only wish as there was no way for him to do anything about it, not even complain.

The laws of cause and effect, in a literal sense, had been reversed—Akira had left time so far behind in regards to speed that the results of his hits happened before the actual action.

"Special skill: Magnum bliss."

A bullet.

About 3 mm in size, launches out of thin air, aiming to strike Akira. However, it was not a linear attack, but a temporal one.

It propelled itself towards the future—3 seconds, to be exact.

At this point in time, there was no one who could dodge this skill, it being an special skill only bolsters this claim.

A temporal attack, a defenseless man, and a crazy woman.

What a sight, indeed!

A smirk widened across Alice's at the thought of seeing Akira Akabane, an unstable variable in her plans, finally being destroyed.

All it takes is an instance.

"Aghh!!"

Finally!

Akira Akabane was shot clean in the head, falling to the ground.

"Keke—hehe—hahahahahahahaha!!"

Alice laughed with a crazed look on her face. Her cravings had finally been subsided.

"Phenomenal! Simply fantastic, if I say so myself."

Said Akira as he picked the bullet up from the ground.

Astonished, Alice shouts with aggression.

"How is this possible?! That bullet travels way beyond this temporal point! Screw that, I saw you get hit with that! How are you still alive?!"

Akira let's go of the bullet, only for it to dissapear. Akira seemed intrigued but set his priorities aside for the time being and looked at Alice.

"Simple really, I travelled back to the time it had skipped—about 3 seconds, to be exact."

Akira claimed calmly, stretching his arms.

Alice's grimness only worsens as she hears this.

"But there's no way.. there were no alterations in the world, no skill activation."

Alice whispered, backing away as she held her head in disbelief.

"I don't have any skills, pure hands and magic, bitch."

"Wha—"

Before Alice could finish her sentence, a punch landed square on her jaw, knocking the lights out of her.

Some interactions that I am still working on:

Akira: Why? Just why?! Why did you let him leave?!

Hinata: This is not the place nor the time, Akira... people are looking.

Akira: I said speak, Goddamit!

Hinata: I-I am sorry.. I can't. Please, let's just talk about this some other time, in a more secluded area.

Akira: Can't? Can't?! The **** do you mean?! You killed these people here today, not him, Hinata Shirayuki. And you still dare to try and keep your image good?! You did this, you and you alone! And you better believe you are gonna live with this fact for the rest of your pitiful existence. And I... I swear to God, I will make sure you do—every ******* second of it. I will be sure to make you remember it all.

Hinata: I was lied to! I swear! Please! Don't do this to me!

Akira: Are you ******* with me? How could you? How? I mean, just how?! How could you believe his words after knowing everything that he did? Did your vision get clouded by his six packs? His thic shlong? Huh?! You.. you are ******* disgusting. But now.. but now! It's perfect, just ******* perfect! Do you know why?!

Hinata:...

Akira: I asked, do you know why?!

Hinata: W-why?

Akira: Because the only person who could possibly stop me today died in that fire! In the fire that YOU caused. And now.. and now, there's nothing— literally nothing in this stupid world that can stop me! No force, no power, no special something, no nothing!

"I will outlive you all.. space, time, you, everything."

Akira says in a soft-spoken voice.

"Alright then, I will outlive all the others with you!"

Kiara says in her usual enthusiastic tone. Akira couldn't help but smile at Kiara's optimism, finding it endearing.

"Well, you will eventually lose all spiritual power. And then, I will be all alone again, wandering the emptiness left behind by everybody."

"Then I will live on life support! For you!"

Kiara shot back, making Akira chuckle before he could recompose himself and reply.

"Alright then, you will live that long, alright? There's no doubting that."

Kiara nods, holding confidence in her words.

"Buuuut, you will eventually forget all 'bout me, and that is something that will most definitely happen. After all, your mind can only take so much of eternity."

Hearing this, Kiara looks down at the ground, sulking to herself. But suddenly, the wheels inside her head started working as she closes the gap between her and Akira, locking eyes with him.

"Theeeen, I will do this."

She says, holding Akira's hands.

"I will never let you leave my sight, never."

Kiara says, tilting her head to the side as her gaze stay fixed on Akira's eyes, an unwavering smile plastered on her face.

She won't leave, and will never leave. Never.

"Promise?"

Akira asked, his eyes fixed upon Kiara's, as a sense of enchantment could be felt from his tone of voice.

"Pinky promise.."

Kiara whispers, her hands gently rubbing Akira's cheek.

Some harmless fun:

"This is this, that is that, she is she, he is he. And game, my friend, is game."

—Akira about Yuki (a man).

Obligatory wank!

The "Son awakened to emptiness," his companion is "Death" itself. He is the one who shall steal everything from the Gods' most precious child, like a thief in the night. His name? Raiden Akabane Akira. The coming storm.
 
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azontr said:
I hate when I make up characters in my head that I get really, really attached to but never muster up the life force to actually write about them.
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Same with me
But in my case it's because I'm extremely lazy
Though I think I solve that desire a little bit by either writing small stories about them or character profiles. I think that helps, have you tried that? Maybe it can motivate you to write something longer
 
azontr said:
I hate when I make up characters in my head that I get really, really attached to but never muster up the life force to actually write about them.
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Deidalius said:
Same with me
But in my case it's because I'm extremely lazy
Though I think I solve that desire a little bit by either writing small stories about them or character profiles. I think that helps, have you tried that? Maybe it can motivate you to write something longer
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Success0906 said:
Same.
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Sums up my thoughts perfectly. At this rate, you'll have worst regrets than your moms' regrets.

Just commit a specific amount of time a day to work on your tasks. Even if you're an adult, you could just set aside 5-15 minutes a day to work on your endeavors.

Everything is easier if you're specific about your goals and you get past the stubborn mental barrier your mind sets you.
 
H3110l12345I20 said:


Sums up my thoughts perfectly. At this rate, you'll have worst regrets than your moms' regrets.

Just commit a specific amount of time a day to work on your tasks. Even if you're an adult, you could just set aside 5-15 minutes a day to work on your endeavors.

Everything is easier if you're specific about your goals and you get past the stubborn mental barrier your mind sets you.
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Yes!! I am starting right away!
 
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azontr said:
I hate when I make up characters in my head that I get really, really attached to but never muster up the life force to actually write about them.
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I remember I had a story with two co-protagonists, one of them had her entire background, character arc and abilities laid out, but the story itself received an overhaul and I could no longer fit her in the new story so I had to scrap her altogether. It sucked.
 
TartaChocholate said:
I remember I had a story with two co-protagonists, one of them had her entire background, character arc and abilities laid out, but the story itself received an overhaul and I could no longer fit her in the new story so I had to scrap her altogether. It sucked.
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Something similar happened to me. But I brought out the demon king of confusion, who infact, was the reason that the story itself had been rewritten. So yeah, if you can't fix it, make a plot hole that is a bigger plot hole. Same characters, different development.
 
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