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Worst Users Of Every Power

at least it isn't as bad as Aqua where she had ****** her teammates so many times with her supernatural BAD luck and completely bypass the supernatural luck Kazuma had, plus she's a God at her verse too
 
oh and also, Hajime Nagumo (first key) for fire manipulation, he needs a really elaborate and quite large (about 2 meters in diameter if i recall) magic circle to make a simple firecamp starter
 
i think that's still better than uncontrollably setting yourself on fire and it hurting you. First guy might make the list for some of those other abilities tho
 
Armorchompy said:
i think that's still better than uncontrollably setting yourself on fire and it hurting you. First guy might make the list for some of those other abilities tho
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eehh, he actually didn't have elemental manipulation for some weird reason since he can do fire, ice (he is listed as water user for some reason despite he didn't have water manipulation), wind, lightning, earth, light and dark magic, but his good affinity are only dark magic, even then it's almost non-combat applicable since his affinity with the others are unbelievably bad

so bad, he got accelerated development from the one who bless him and he still can't produce actual threat-level elemental magic lol
 
I think Bennett should take the spot for Supernatural Luck, as it seems to not only shed off to his allies as well as himself but gives his enemies extremely high luck too given one of his voice-lines implies his enemies “never miss” their attacks.
 
Pikaman said:
I think Bennett should take the spot for Supernatural Luck, as it seems to not only shed off to his allies as well as himself but gives his enemies extremely high luck too given one of his voice-lines implies his enemies “never miss” their attacks.
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shouldn't that be supernatural BAD luck like Aqua's lol
 
I think that beats out Aqua's unless more "feats" are provided for hers yeah
 
 
Hmm, I'm unsure, the earthquake stuff is pretty "good", does either have any way of making their bad luck work in favor of them and if not how much does it screw them over? Bennett seems like he's at least a capable fighter despite that.
 
I actually didn't read Konosuba, just follow the anime really... so I can't exactly say something about Aqua's skill if she has any in the first place
 
Winning Casino games is impressive, but not as good as Bennet’s is bad, which I’ll show more in depth in a second. Kazuma may have always won in RPS but Bennett says that he tries to use up all his bad luck in coin flips so that when it actually matters his luck isn’t so bad (A plan that fails terribly), which implies Bennett is totally incapable of winning a coin flip. Anyways some instances of poor misfortune for Bennett.

- He’s an orphan

- He is a somewhat capable fighter but Bennett explains he usually takes on challenges leagues below his actual pay grade as a fighter, as he will get screwed over by his bad luck if he goes up against anything he would normally have a chance against.
His Elemental Skill, his strongest offensive attack (His ultimate is a team buff) also sends himself flying.

- His bad luck rubbed off on his teammates so much they quit and severed all ties with Bennett, despite seemingly being good friends with him before joining

- Bennett discovered a massive haul of Luxurious Chests at an abandoned monster camp, these usually give incredible riches in both money and recourses when there’s only one chest, never mind the multiple found here. However when the traveler opened them in Bennett’s presence all they got was some radishes and a pitiful amount of money, which delighted Bennett, which shows that by his standard it was a good haul relative to the chests providing the loot.

- When Bennett tried to go gliding with the Traveler, what was a sunny day instantly turned into a violent lightning storm the moment he uttered his intentions to go gliding. Bennett was then found by a member of the Adventurer’s Guild who informed him he had to leave as his adoptive parents were hurting severely from Arthritis. The minute Bennett left the area, the storm ceased.

There’s others I can list but those are the ones off the top of my head
 
Wanna suggest Andou Jurai as another possible contender for fire and heat manipulation. His first flame is barely lukewarm and pretty much is just meant to look cool. His second is a flame that can’t be put out and spreads that activates on his hand, so it would basically just slowly burn him to death before spreading to everything around him. He would have died and/or burnt everyone he knows to death on multiple occasions if he didn’t happen to have friends who could instantly cut his arm off, teleport it to a pocket dimension, and heal him a new one.
I’m not sure if it’s actually worse than Jimmy’s for fire manipulation since it’s an active ability, but it’s at least worse than the other heat manipulation suggestion.
 
Noneless21 said:
I can, the same Miyama Kaito for elemental Manipulation, it just create your basic fire, earth, water, air, and lightning magic but all of them basically is just a harmless magical effects since he didn't have affinities on any of those elements so it's completely useless
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Harmless as in what?

Is it illusionary? Can his fire light cigarettes or matches or something or generate heat that can be felt?
Can the water be used for normal water purposes, like dampening a piece of cloth or tissue or diluting a fluid?
Does the lightning or fire have any luminosity?

If they have any of the functions of the elements they ostensibly are, & he can voluntarily generate them, those are still utilities, even if generally not in combat.

Heck, with good bluffing, he MIGHT be able to fool folks into thinking he has actual powerful magic, similar to an illusioner trying a "This is just a taste of my power, don't make me go all out" gambit or such.


As for Bennet vs Aqua, reading Aqua's negated luck good enough to nearly bankrupt a country through a single casino & good enough to have never lost at Rock Paper Scissors in nearly 2 decades.
Bennet's seems to be life-threatening (Makes otherwise on par encounters lethally threatening.) & ruins relationships (Good allies leaving.), & ruins recreation (Made bad weather just to impede a weather-based activity & harmed his beloved parents to get him away from it.), but in terms of the scale it affects, I'm not sure its as strong as what Aqua's can negate.

So I'd question not just having both, since 1 has better scale of effect that it scales to based on what it negates, while the other is more personal, but devastating, especially if it's affected him personally all his life.
 
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Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
Every ability in The Peasant (UnderMine)'s curse tabber, all of these serve no purpose but to hinder the player in numerous ways.
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Well some of those are already taken by even worse versions, such as Bennett’s Supernatural Bad Luck being a hindrance to him far more than dropping a few important items and rigged chests (The latter of which he has showings of himself on a far worse scale)
 
Imaginym said:
As for Bennet vs Aqua, reading Aqua's negated luck good enough to nearly bankrupt a country through a single casino & good enough to have never lost at Rock Paper Scissors in nearly 2 decades.
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A: Rock Paper Scissors has skill involved in it, not a whole lot, but it’s possible to put on a great win streak with like just above average luck. How much did he play in those two decades? Bennett is implied to be physically incapable of winning a coin-flip.

B: Idk about how unlikely a lightning storm literally following you and leaving everything else sunny actually is, but even if it’s more statistically likely than a perfect casino record, it’s leagues more actually influential. Aqua cancels out one of her teammate’s best weapons (his luck). Bennett gets actively screwed over in terms of trying to challenge threats equal to him in combat, he essentially amps his enemies and debuffs his allies (which has massive irony since he’s one of the best support characters in gameplay). If this is a competition of who’s bad luck causes/counters the most/more unlikely events then I fancy a storm beginning when you wish to do something that requires clear skies and ending only a minute or two later when you get occupied with something else is less likely when compared to a 100% casino record. If it’s a matter of who’s more effected by their bad luck in combat/whose is the least practical in combat, Bennett actively screws himself over while Aqua locks away one specific power from her teammate. Bennett’s is LEAGUES more detrimental to him, even if you wanna argue that Kazuma is luckier than Bennett is unlucky


Debating why a character from your favourite verse sucks hard is so weird lmao
 
SCP-4352's avatar creation, it has three requirements
The target must not be aware of SCP-4352’s existence, the target must not be aware of SCP-4352’s capabilities, the target must have broken a societal norm for their culture. It is not known to harm anyone other than the target also it is stopped by knowing of red riding hood or the three little pigs because it is basically the big bad wolf. Also I think it might technically be screwed over by one of SBA's rules by a technically
 
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara said:
Every ability in The Peasant (UnderMine)'s curse tabber, all of these serve no purpose but to hinder the player in numerous ways.
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For the sake of not overwriting half the list I'll do the same I did with Straizo lol, good find.
Lou_change said:
SCP-4352's avatar creation, it has three requirements
The target must not be aware of SCP-4352’s existence, the target must not be aware of SCP-4352’s capabilities, the target must have broken a societal norm for their culture. It is not known to harm anyone other than the target also it is stopped by knowing of red riding hood or the three little pigs because it is basically the big bad wolf. Also I think it might technically be screwed over by one of SBA's rules by a technically
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I mean, two out of three aren't happening via SBA and the third is probably something almost everyone has done.
 
Pretty bad but if we get someone with a similar ability but with vapor or a body negatively effected by breathing in smoke they will probably lose the position.
 
Armorchompy said:
For the sake of not overwriting half the list I'll do the same I did with Straizo lol, good find.

I mean, two out of three aren't happening via SBA and the third is probably something almost everyone has done.
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Several characters don't really have a culture like pretty much anything with animalistic intelligence or simply live in a position they can't for example Bowser being a king pretty much decides the cultural norms of his society. Also it isn't even that strong being 9-C.
 
Imaginym said:
Harmless as in what?

Is it illusionary? Can his fire light cigarettes or matches or something or generate heat that can be felt?
Can the water be used for normal water purposes, like dampening a piece of cloth or tissue or diluting a fluid?
Does the lighting or fire have any luminosity?

If they have any of the functions of the elements they ostensibly are, & he can voluntarily generate them, those are still utilities, even if generally not in combat.

Heck, with good bluffing, he MIGHT be able to fool folks into thinking he has actual powerful magic, similar to an illusioner trying a "This is just a taste of my power, don't make me go all out" gambit or such.
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so, i'm hella late but I'll just tell you how exactly bad Kaito's elemental manipulation is

-fire manipulation
can only shoot a fire with the equivalent size of a tennis table ball... that slowly flew to its target
-ice manipulation
it can only shoot an ice equivalent to an ice cube... that melts before it reaches its target
-earth manipulation
can only shoot a small pebble
-air manipulation
can only spawn a gentle breeze
-lightning manipulation
can only spawn a static electricity
-light manipulation
can only make something (or someone glow)

now I won't go to his dark manipulation since he has the affinity for it, but he needs quite the amount of mana to even make those effect so yeah, it's bad, like really bad, it takes time to conjure the spell too
 
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