Wiz vs Cole MacGrath

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Wiz vs Cole MacGrath

Both at their strongest

SBA

Starts at 1 kilometer away

Speed Equalized

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

I'd like to participate in a debate, but I know absolute jack about Cole, since I only played Second Son, so

┬»\_(Òâä)_/┬»

 

[Schnee_One]

What does she lead with?

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Sealing. But she can instantly change spells if she's in trouble.

 

[Schnee_One]

How does it work?

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

She seals you in ice that nulls your abilities. She fires an ice beam. Note that she can teleport or power null the black holes if she reacts to it.

 

[Schnee_One]

Cole resists powernull now though, and he himself can teleport

Also, sealing in Ice doesn't allow you to bypass High regen as his atoms on such a small level can still recuperate and regenerate a new body.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Wiz' power null bypass resistance. Wiz' power null>>Archdevil resistance>>Hoost>>High Devils>>Incubus and low demons>>Succubus>Humans=Baseline resistance.

Works on Vanir as she attempted to seal him this way. Also worked on Duke.

 

[Schnee_One]

So how does her sealing work?

She just thinks and you're sealed?

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Firing beam at you and when you hit, you're sealed.

 

[Schnee_One]

Cole loves to spam from range so it's going to take ages for them to really hit eachother.

Does she have anything else to beat him?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Firing beam at you and when you hit, you're sealed.

I thought it was thought-based from what i saw in Wilhelm and Mami vs Wiz?

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

@Veloxt I corrected it on later half of the debate.

@Gar Thought based status effects that bypass resistance, she also have curses that bypass resistance too. She also is a ranged fighter as she is a magician.

 

[Schnee_One]

What do those status affects do?

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Bunch of stuff. Putting someone to sleep (works on people made out of earth), paralysis, poison, standard stuff. For me, curses are the ones that threatens Cole. There's petrification, probability, to even instant death, though the latter is OOC.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yeah Cole has one win condition but its nearly impossible to land

Wiz low difficulty

 

[DMUA]

>starts from 1 KM away

>Wiz doesn't have enhanced senses

... She can't even see what she needs to hax, meanwhile Cole has radar sense and the ability to nuke several hundred Kilometers with an RSB which by AP alone basically oneshots her

Edit: Just saw High Regen, which takes care of RSB. Huh.

Even so, if Cole's inital RSB doesn't work (Which he'll know because he can sense electricity from this distance, and literally everything nearby besides her would have it completely absent), he would probably just teleport next to them and shove a black hole down their throat, which would destroy them on a level beyond atoms.

 

[Schnee_One]

<Teleport near her

She nulls it and induces a status affect

 

[DMUA]

And she apparently expects random teleporting electric men trying to turn her to quarks all the time?

Even if she has the reactions and stuff to apply her forkery, it seems more like the standard quickdraw of who kills.

 

[Schnee_One]

Probably since the black hole is like....Super obvious and easy to dodge.

 

[DMUA]

When it's spontaneously in your face and you don't have resistance?

 

[Schnee_One]

Of course it is when it has a really slow activation time compared to thinking "This person is cursed" and being done with it

 

[DMUA]

It's not nearly that slow though. It can suck up people several meters away pretty well, point blank it should be fine for getting the job done.

... Then again, it's not slow but it's not fast, so

 

[Schnee_One]

Which is very slow compared to thinking, which is exactly what I said

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Extrasensory works on Kilometers.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Uh, does Cole really have a win condition here?

 

[Schnee_One]

As we said above Black holes will kill Wiz but they get billed before they affect her

 

[ZellTemplar55]

Wiz FRA

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

This is really decisive (and borderline stompish tbh), but yeah, Wiz takes this pretty easily.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

What's her real first move? I know this was answered but Shiro gave multiple ways for Wiz to win this, which confuses me

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Magicians and lich change spells out of the fly tbh. First, sealing. But she casts defensive spells like power null and teleportation. When it won't work, she'll move on to the next. Then next. Then next. Like normal magicians do.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Bump

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Tiddies FRA

 

[Schnee_One]

I don't know if this is fair really

Wiz needs to act OOC for Cole to actually get a hit

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

That's my problem with this match tbh

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Assuming this isn't a stomp

Best Konosuba girl FRA

Funny how Kessler used to stomp Aqua but now one of the god tiers can't even hold a candle to a high tier like Wiz

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Best Konosuba girl FRA

My good taste sense is tingling

 

[DMUA]

Every girl in Konosuba is trash

Leaps through window to upgrade Death Road to Canada to 9-B

 

[DragonEmperor23]

''uses dankness so you trip and fall before getting out the window''

 

[DMUA]

This is why I will kill you the second it's in character to do so