Why does SSj4 Broly have his own page?

[Unclechairman]

Yeah pretty much that and people won't connect the dots and realize that non canon profiles don't affect canon ones

Were people trying to scale Beerus and Goku to Demigra's feats?

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Were people trying to scale Beerus and Goku to Demigra's feats?

I'm pretty sure I recall it yes

 

[Antvasima]

I would prefer if we don't turn the Dragon Ball pages too confusing by adding characters or versions of characters from out of continuity games.

 

[Unclechairman]

It shouldn't be confusing, as long as there's a note.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, the manga in question is a out of continuity spinoff of a game that is an out of continuity spinoff of GT, which is an out of continuity spinoff of DBZ. I don't think that they seem relevant to the main continuity.

 

[Viturino]

I dont think this wikia is the place for hypotheticals.

What makes them hypotheticals? Hypotheticals are characters that don't exist, at least yet, but can be speculated about based on current information. Examples of hypotheticals are SSGSS Gogeta, Gokhan, Buurus, etc.
By contrast, SSj4 Broly and Super 17 in his forms listed above may have used to be hypotheticals, but they have since appeared in official media. Game-exclusive characters typically don't have much leads to go off of to try and measure their power, but these characters are an exception as they have showed off their power in an official manga adaptation, or in the case of SSj3 Broly, is (apparently) directly compared to another character.

Ask @SomebodyStupid he was the one who said they are hypothetical.

 

[Unclechairman]

Well, the manga in question is a out of continuity spinoff of a game that is an out of continuity spinoff of GT, which is an out of continuity spinoff of DBZ. I don't think that they seem relevant to the main continuity.

Broly himself isn't really relevant to the main continuity either.

I don't see why this is a problem. There aren't any outright contradictions to my knowledge (spin-off manga loosely follows GT, which is an alternative continuation of Z. Broly dies in Z, but then gets revived in GT spin-off with new form, including FEATS). To anyone who can read that Victory Mission is a spin-off of GT, this shouldn't be an issue, as long as you assume that the characters that appeared in GT's original run are as strong as they were there. Otherwise, you do have an issue, as Broly's main feat is one-shotting Eis Shenron, who in GT is powerscaled to Nuova Shenron, who's powerscaled to SSj4 Goku, who's ultimately powerscaled to Kid Buu. But there aren't any issues with assuming such a thing, are there? Mind you, I haven't read the manga, so I don't know if there are any outright contradictions. You'd have to ask Pietro Maximoff; he probably read it.

 

[Unclechairman]

Ask @SomebodyStupid he was the one who said they are hypothetical.

SomebodyStupid, why do you think these characters are hypotheticals?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, if we allow obscure distant out of continuity spinoff versions we open the door for any obscure distant out of continuity spinoff versions, and I prefer to keep the pages somewhat structured and contained.

 

[Unclechairman]

"sigh" Well, can SSj4 Broly keep his page, or do we have to delete it entirely?

 

[Antvasima]

I have already deleted it.

 

[Unclechairman]

So much for legit Galaxy-busting Broly.

 

[Nibbler3100]

I know right if you're not going to add a new key for him on his page at least let him keep his non-canon page not like it messes with the balance of things since we know hes a completely different character

 

[Antvasima]

I am uncertain. Like I said, if we allow this there is a chance that we will be swarmed by obscure non-canon characters.

 

[LordAizenSama]

Honestly, I don't think it's needed. It will just look like fanfic characters.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

if this broly is removed to be out of continuity, then isnt strangevisitor superman also well out of continuity

 

[Antvasima]

Hmm. You do have a point.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

i tried to find info on him, and all i cud get is on a superman related character called strangevisitor (not to be confused with strange visitor superman ofc)


and any links that were given told that he wasnt a part of the normal continuity

and the authors wrote him essentially as a short story, also, iirc those authors were working o this as a temporary thing

 

[ImagoDesattrolante]

http://comicsalliance.com/adventures-superman-strange-vistor-preview-joe-keatinge-dc-comics-digital/ I believe this talks about the Superman, does it not? I don't see why this wouldn't count.

 

[Nibbler3100]

I am uncertain. Like I said, if we allow this there is a chance that we will be swarmed by obscure non-canon characters.

I agree but I think it should depend on the specific character themselves such as the more popular noncanon characters like SSJ4 Broly (literally hear about this guy every day), Cosmic Spider-man, or Heaven Ascension Dio and then whereas the Not-so-popular or uneeded characters would be denied a page.

 

[Viturino]

Can't we have a category "Obscure Character" ? I think its kinda cool to have profiles for Strange Visitor and Goku Shin Budokai because we would be like the one of the only sources on the internet with stats for this character, seriously, try to look up them, its pretty hard to find info, if we do them we will be kinda.. special.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, all right. I will restore the pages, but I don't make any promises to allow future extremely obscure out of continuity characters.

 

[Kavpeny]

As long as it is made perfectly clear that such characters are non-canon, and cannot be scaled to the canon profiles, I am fine with it.

That said, do not mix canon profiles with non-canon version's stats. For example, if somebody wants to create a page for Shin Budokai version of Goku, don't meddle with the Goku page, and create a new page labelled "Goku (Shin Budokai)" instead.

Lastly, if these profiles turn into a head-ache, such as consistent demands to scale canon characters to non-canon ones based on non-canon feats, I will personally mass delete said non-canon profiles. The DBZ franchise is a bigh enough head-ache as it is, and it would be extremely tiresome to deal with additional continuity issues, so to the people in charge of creating the non-canon profiles, I would like to request that they prevent cropping up of any stat revision requests due to continuity confusion.

 

[SomebodyData]

Well, all right. I will restore the pages, but I don't make any promises to allow future extremely obscure out of continuity characters.

Thank you, Ant-Sama

Lord K, the pages already have a note that they are non-canon, but thank you for your time anyways.

 

[DBZMLP12345]

BTW this may out of topic, but I'm planning on making SSJ4 Gohan, SSJ3 Vegito,Adult Gotenks and SSJ2 Bardock profiles, so what is the concensus?

i think that would be pretty cool, espicially SSJ3 Vegito, I mean, if Gotenks could go SSJ3 while Goten and Trunks weren't even SSJ2's individually, while Goku is a SSJ3 and Vegeta is a SSJ2, that should mean Vegito inherited the ability to go SSJ3 from Goku, Vegito even went SSJ3 in a short animated Heroes clip, also, would Vegito be considered High 4-A as a SSJ3? Since you guys already have Base Vegito alone many times SSJ3 Goku, I was actually going to suggest making a page for SSJ3 Vegito, glad someone here brought it up

 

[Antvasima]

No. The Dragon Ball psges are already messy and convoluted enough as it is. We do not need any more obscure non-canon characters. I will close this topic now.