What WWE/AEW/NJPW Wrestler(s) Do You Believe Get Way Too Much Hate?

[DemonicDude]

Yeah I've heard this argument in the community so I prepared an argument of my own a while back in my computer. lol

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Yeah I've heard this argument in the community so I prepared an argument of my own a while back in my computer. lol

I will never be this dedicated to a wrestler in my life lmao

 

[DemonicDude]

Which is kinda funny cause I think WALTER and Ciampa >>>> Kenny
(We all have different opinions )

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Which is kinda funny cause I think WALTER and Ciampa >>>> Kenny

Heavily disagree.

This is basically saying WALTER and Ciampa >>>>>>>>>>> Orton, which I highly disagree with.

 

[DemonicDude]

Ciampa booking was god tier coming out to no music crowd booing him, Spitting on Gargano's wedding ring becoming the Black Heart
This guy didn't wanted to be in WWE 2kgames just so he wouldn't loose just great stuff
it was just brilliant (but then again that just goes to show you great HHH's booking was)
So yeah Ciampa > Randy during 2018-19 as the best heel in the business (at least for the time being.)
Ciampa isn't loved because he spent a few years in NXT nope he's loved because he was the best heel and nothing since then has come close to it.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Ciampa booking was god tier coming out to no music crowd booing him, Spitting on Gargano's wedding ring becoming the Black Heart
This guy didn't wanted to be in WWE 2kgames just so he wouldn't loose just great stuff
it was just brilliant (but then again that just goes to show you great HHH's booking was)
So yeah Ciampa > Randy during 2018-19 as the best heel in the business (at least for the time being.)
Ciampa isn't loved because he spent a few years in NXT nope he's loved because he was the best heel and nothing since then has come close to it.

2006-2010 Randy >>> 2018-2019 Ciampa.

Randy was doing the craziest shit during that time period. That Punt Kick was the most dangerous move every wrestler was trying to avoid. The moment a wrestler was hit with that move, that wrestler was gone for months. Just look back at some of the segments Randy had with Cena and Triple H and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Even in 2020 where WWE brought back the Legendkiller gimmick Randy was doing some of his best work in a while (though the Punt Kick was no longer a big deal after Drew McIntyre no sold like 2 of them, and 3 Punt Kicks only took him out for like a few weeks).

 

[DemonicDude]

Yeah it was crazy and Ciampa torturing Gargano lead to (Multi storytelling) which resulted in Gargano's heel turn something he finally needed to become NXT champion so it's long term booking and who doesn't like storytelling.
As far whose more violent or whose doing more crazy that doesn't really be something we should use to compare wrestlers (By that Logic Brian Pillman brought a gun in that WWF promo and Vince in Attitude with Kiss My ass club ehhh.... don't wanna get into that) those two are great heels as well.

Point is there will always be someone more crazy and violent out there (Seth removing Malaki Blacks eye or Taker setting people on fire, or just watch any TNA Abyss's monster ball matches)
So these wrestling comparisons doesn't really make much sense.
I love Ciampa and Walter as fan, I sit around get all excited seeing em beat people up. I throw all the statistic and analysis out the window it's just pure fan love from me you know there's that one wrestler who we all love as fan that's just how I see wrestling.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Heels who are just straight up psychotic can be a hit or miss imo.

Randy and Ciampa are the two guys who excelled at being psychopaths.

 

[DemonicDude]

Make a Thread titled Professional Wrestling Fantasy Booking.
Where we wrestling fans will book dream matches from any promotion

I wanna see Randomguy2345 book 2022 WWE War Games Match (no not NXT this time but for the main roster ) I wanna see which teams/wrestlers you'd pair for this and why.
Sounds like a long overdue idea to me, Fantasy matches and booking is one of the most exciting thing about professional wrestling in general.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Make a Thread titled Professional Wrestling Fantasy Booking.
Where we wrestling fans will book dream matches from any promotion

I wanna see Randomguy2345 book 2022 WWE War Games Match (no not NXT this time but for the main roster ) I wanna see which teams/wrestlers you'd pair for this and why.
Sounds like a long overdue idea to me, Fantasy matches and booking is one of the most exciting thing about professional wrestling in general.

I actually had an idea of how The Way (Johnny Gargano and Austin Theory) can do a reunion and can face Judgement Day.

I'll gladly make that thread.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/professional-wrestling-fantasy-booking.139270/

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

I agree Metalball on those shitty tik tok debaters.
One of the reasons why I stepped away from Ben 10 as a cartoon franchise when it comes to debating is
Everytime you go to any discord or any forms people would be like Alien X do this, Alien X can do that
meanwhile Alien X has never even shown half of the stuff aside from creating a Universe, People seems to wank him so much they have lost all creativity and keeps linking Ink Tank videos
It's genuinely funny that People think Trigon is out of Alien X's League and googles" Can Ben 10 defeat Goku" read a shitty script and accept it
plus they are using my pictures too for their stupid and baseless arguments.

austin theory can beat goku

 

[Pikaman]

I agree Metalball on those shitty tik tok debaters.
One of the reasons why I stepped away from Ben 10 as a cartoon franchise when it comes to debating is
Everytime you go to any discord or any forms people would be like Alien X do this, Alien X can do that
meanwhile Alien X has never even shown half of the stuff aside from creating a Universe, People seems to wank him so much they have lost all creativity and keeps linking Ink Tank videos
It's genuinely funny that People think Trigon is out of Alien X's League and googles" Can Ben 10 defeat Goku" read a shitty script and accept it
plus they are using my pictures too for their stupid and baseless arguments.

I blame post Hal Jordan vs Ben 10 Death Battle salt

 

[RandomGuy2345]

austin theory can beat goku

100% true.

 

[DemonicDude]

I blame post Hal Jordan vs Ben 10 Death Battle salt

Yup that's exactly where this all salt came from (Battle was uncreative too)

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Bumpity

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Reviving this old ass thread to make my own list:

Austin Theory: Yes. We've stated a year ago that Theory gets way too much hate, but it still applies to this day. And what's crazy is that it's not even his fault. It's his booking. Ever since his match with Cena at WM, he's been having pointless feud after pointless feud that has no substance whatsoever. I've also noticed that the reactions he's been getting from the crowd aren't nearly as loud as the reactions he was getting a year ago when he was carrying MITB. I'd argue he was getting the most heat out of any other heel at the time. Of course, HHH thought that him constantly losing match after match. I saw someone in a YouTube comment section say that Theory still hasn't fully recovered from his horribly booked cash in months back, and honestly I'm starting to agree. Why was he better booked when he was taking selfies than now? It makes no sense. Anyways, Theory gets way too much hate for stuff that's not even his fault. He's very talented, he just needs a properly built feud that'll really grab the audience.

The Miz: I will never understand the hate this man gets. He's great on the mic, and he's drastically improved in the ring. He's just been booked in awful feuds. I sound like a broken record, but 2016-2018 Miz was goated. My man couldn't miss, whether it was him talking, or in the ring. Mfs are just addicted to wrestlers risking their lives just to entertain, and then complain when said wrestler is broken down by the age of 40.

Roman Reigns: Yes. People still shit on this guy. One of the best character changes in pro wrestlers, and one of the best characters in all of pro wrestlers, the Tribal Chief puts the old Roman to shame with the amount of layered storytelling in the Bloodline story. While he still has a limited moveset, he makes sure every move he hits has impact and actually means something, which is much better than just hitting moves over and over again with no substance. This man throughout his 3-year run has put out so many classic matches, and so many iconic segments that will be talked about decades from now. The story of the Bloodline will likely go down as arguably the greatest story told in WWE history. Definitely one of the best stories told in pro wrestling. Acknowledge your Tribal Chief.

Alberto Del Rio: Tbf, Del Rio is one of the wrestlers that gets a lot of shit due to his controversies outside of the WWE (though tbh, I could make an entire google doc explaining the controversies, and how a certain somebody Del Rio was with a few years back doesn't get nearly enough shit for what she did, but I'm too lazy for that). However, there are people who shit on his time in the WWE, and while his second run in the WWE was very underwhelming (he went from beating John Cena in under 10 minutes to losing to Kalisto), his first run was really good. Unlike his second run, Del Rio actually showed personality and character, with his entrance, his iconic ring announcer, his expensive rides, etc. He was even able to mask his somewhat sub-par mic skills (he wasn't that bad tbh) with his personality and vocal inflections. I mean compare clips like this to clips like this, and you can tell the massive difference between Del Rio's promo work from his first run to his second. Aside from having a personality and character that made him stand out, he was great in the ring. Del Rio vs Christian at Summerslam and Del Rio vs Ziggler at Payback are underrated classics imo. Del Rio doesn't get nearly enough credit for his in-ring work.