What a nightmarish dream... Illumina vs Antasma

[The_Smashor]

With the Marioverse being nerfed any aeon now, it seems Mario vs Sonic matches that don't envolve swords are basically going to be gone outside of a small few. This is a very fitting matchup from within that small few. And Illumina vs Dreamy Bowser was aleady taken. Antasma has the Dark Stone and speed is equalized. Battle takes place in some amagamation between the Dream World and Maginary World.

Antasma: 0

Illumina: 7 (Maverick Zero X, Dark Matter557, CaptainFinniga, Veloxt1r0kore, Gargoyle One, DaBigP, ZackMoon1234)

 

[GyroNutz]

Yeah uh, what's Antasma's experience with hitting a non-corporeal? Does Dreamy Luigi count as non-corporeal? Also, how would Antasma deal with emphatic manipulation?

Also, I'm sure this is just a mistake, but speed should be equal

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

They both scale to being able to vaguely being able to destroy countless universes so AP won't be a factor here.

I'll say Illumina due to her having Void Manipulation, Abstract Existence, and Non-Corporeality.

 

[The_Smashor]

Antasma: 0

Illumina: 1

@GyroNutz

It is

 

[MicDaniel]

Couldn't Antasma Create a Bad dream for her and make her doubt herself again? He could then proceed to destroy the separate variants.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Illumina embodies and controls the emotions from which dreams are made of, both positive and negative. Couldn't she just change the nightmare into a "good" dream, rendering his attack ineffective?

Has Antasma's hax worked on a non-corporeal, abstract entity anyhow?

 

[MicDaniel]

The Nightmare Stone embodies all Bad Dreams its also listed on the Same tier as illumina, Not to mention speed has been equalized. If illumina was able to be split into two due to Self doubt, it can happen again.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

The fact that they're on the same Tier doesn't magically mean Antasma will be able to bypass Non-Corporeality. Regardless, your reply doesn't address my main point.


Illumina embodies and controls the emotions from which dreams are made of, both positive and negative. Couldn't she just change the nightmare into a "good" dream, rendering his attack ineffective?

 

[MicDaniel]

Yes, But there is nothing Stopping from Antasma from changing it back to a Nightmare.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

And what's stopping her from changing it back into a "good" dream?


Also, you still haven't explained how Antasma would bypass her Non-Corporeality.

 

[MicDaniel]

He has no answer for that, i fold.

 

[Dark_Matter557]

Illumina via abstract existence and void/empathic manipulation

 

[CaptainFinnigan]

Illumina FRA

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Illumina FRA then.

 

[Schnee_One]

Illumina FRA

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Bump

 

[TheQuirkyBoy]

Illumina FRA

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Illumina FRA

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Last second bump

 

[Blueblur24]

Bump for notice