Villainous Canon Blog

[Half_Shiny]

Due to the chaotic nature of the series and the confusion that several CRTs have brought around this series. I attempted to put it all into one place to clear up canon problems and show the full canon of this series

Edit 9/2/2024: added advertisements for different products using these characters

Villainous Canon

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This would likely go under the Villainous Verse page, Black Hat, and Dr. Flug because those are the most popular characters in the series and have heavy tie-ins to the crossovers.

Agree: @Shiraito983, @Eficiente, Duedate8898

Neutral: @Theglassman12, @DarkDragonMedeus, @Firestorm808 (all three were neutral due to lack of knowledge on the verse)

Disagree:

 

[Bobsican]

Okay, native Spanish speaker here, I mainly have some nitpicks for the translations, even if not particularly relevant:

“the one who was in a dark room and kept saying how boring you are?"

This would be translated better as "the one who was in a dark room and wouldn't stop saying how boring you are?"

• Possibly Animaniacs: (Cerbebro/Brain shows up in a list of special thanks)

The Spanish name for the character is spelt as "Cerebro" (as listed in the scan too), which does translate literally to "Brain".

lead to the term PodemosBailar (they can dance)

"Podemos Bailar" translates to "We can dance", "they can dance" would translate in Spanish as "ellos pueden bailar"

pro fecía

doc tora

compañe ra

re gresar

es tábamos

impro visar

Simpá ticamente

The spaces between these "words" should be removed, those are singular words split in half for no reason.

Also...

• Mascara Macabra from a warrior who challenged a god to being given a second chance by Black Hat (no translation exists but a breakdown can be found here by the person who did the unofficial subtitles)

The video in itself has English subtitles already, so the second bit is redundant.

dark web Black Hat mandó una bestia, conocida por ser implacable y salvaje.. Esta bestia logró cazar v acabar con la mayoria de los agentes principales del grupo, dejó a muy pocos de nosotros

The wording before "Black Hat" implies that maybe a period then a new paragraph was here, otherwise the wording seems weird, in any case there's also a double period after "salvaje", unless it's meant to be a triple period to indicate suspence ("..."). The end also seems like it kept going on over that being the proper end of the paragraph (seems like weird wording otherwise), assuming that's likely the case it'd be best to just add a " (...) " (parenthesis included) at the end to indicate it kept going on but it's skipped.

Translation-wise, it also seems that the word for "behind" in Spanish ("atras") was also skipped, which does appear in the English translation provided below it, assuming it was there and it was just skipped in the Spanish version when copying it, but not the English translation.

maybe he wouldn't have caught us at night

Besides no term being used to even imply "he", "no nos hubiera agarrado la noche" is a common figurative idiom to express "we wouldn't have ended up at night", as much "de nada" translates literally to "of nothing" yet the intent is generally to say what in English is "your welcome".

A better translation to that bit would be "maybe we wouldn't have ended up at night", the subject clearly is regarding them both over just the father.

(creo que pertenece a algún villano o ¿puede que la rata sea el villano en sí? No importa el punto es que)

The parenthesis really ends there? Considering how those work and what comes after I'd think the parenthesis should close right after the question mark.

500 bite

"bite of 500" would be a better translation, as it was meant to be the munching-kind meaning of the term, not the data one, with the current wording implying the latter.

This is also backed up by Alan being on record saying that the is cartoon is part of 'Black Hat's Plan".

The "is" before "cartoon" here should be removed as it doesn't seem to be a subject, but rather a misused term.

Justo en mi dia lib El pingüino aplaude con sus aletas y dos Hat-Bots entran a recoer a Kaleb”.

Considering the English translation, "lib" should spell as "libre" (free), and the jump to using capital letters implies that a period was around yet removed (this also applies on the English translation).


Outside all of that, good job, I can agree with the conclusions given in the blog.

 

[Half_Shiny]

Thanks for the corrections on my spanish and my english at some points lmao.

For the ones that were cut off or have a random capital could have easily been something I used to transcribe them. I am currently travelling and don't have access to BH's Harmless book vol 1-2, so I will update them hopefully by the end of the week.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

That´s definitely some good work, congratulations for that!

I´m far from having deep knowledge of the ARGs (I only discovered about their existence when people started talking about them here), but the information is reliable as far as my knowledge goes

On a side note:

This is one of the biggest aspects of Villainous as a whole which impacts it as a whole to this day that has been going since 2017 to this day.

Change this part of the text to this:

This is one of the biggest aspects of the Villainous franchise as a whole and still impacts it to this day since 2017.

Also, i´m pretty sure that "Podemos Bailar" means "We can dance", instead of "They can dance"

Besides some english mistakes here and there. The blog looks good

 

[Half_Shiny]

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[Greatsage13th]

its good. gonna need staff tho.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

So this is just an information blog? A list of all the different crossovers and appearances? If so I have no issues with it being posted, though I would like for someone knowledgeable about this verse to verify everything.

 

[Half_Shiny]

So this is just an information blog? A list of all the different crossovers and appearances? If so I have no issues with it being posted, though I would like for someone knowledgeable about this verse to verify everything.

Its an informational blog about the canon for this series. Due to the fact it has to deal with several ARGs on top of them being from crossover episodes. This was created in order to have everything in one place as well as show why things are canon.

 

[FinePoint]

I don't have much to say about the accuracy right now, since I'm not actually knowledgeable about this verse.

However, in the meantime: I would like to thank you for making this. The canon of this series confused the **** out of me, and completely turned me away from a CRT about it.

 

[Mayon_king12]

Congratulations, you have done a great job. the series really needed a blog like this. As someone who has been researching this series for a long time, this blog everything is fine, but I think there are some shortcomings.

• There is something missing in the arg section, black hat has an ask.fm page, Alan itural also confirmed this.
• For the villainous-kid next door crossover, AI Animation Studios had to work part-time with the original creators and writers for selective appearances in said videos, making their videos more authentic and true to the features. Tom Warburton confirmed this once again, and Diego Mejio, one of the producers of Villainous, stated that everything was canon and that Kid Next Door remained faithful to its script.
• Duncan Rouleau's statements that Ben 10 reboot is canon for the crossover nexus multiverse indirectly made the crossover with Villainous also canon.

 

[Bobsican]

• Duncan Rouleau's statements that Ben 10 reboot is canon for the crossover nexus multiverse indirectly made the crossover with Villainous also canon.

Wouldn't that have the implication that Black Hat is above Alien X? Namely out of Black Hat already upscaling from the Omnitrix.

 

[Mayon_king12]

Wouldn't that have the implication that Black Hat is above Alien X? Namely out of Black Hat already upscaling from the Omnitrix.

maybe but more evidence may be needed to show that the old Ben 10 series exists as two canons in the cosmology

 

[Half_Shiny]

• There is something missing in the arg section, black hat has an ask.fm page, Alan itural also confirmed this.

I did not include this due to the fact it was before it became an official series on CN. This along with the original shorts from 2012 before it got picked up are no longer part of the canon of the series.

• Duncan Rouleau's statements that Ben 10 reboot is canon for the crossover nexus multiverse indirectly made the crossover with Villainous also canon.

Will add. But is reboot ben 10 canon to the original?

 

[Mayon_king12]

Will add. But is reboot ben 10 canon to the original?

Ben 10 reboot series is said to be one of the universes of the original series but for now, I think only Ben 10 reboot can be added as a two-sided canon.

 

[Aolphl]

Wouldn't that have the implication that Black Hat is above Alien X? Namely out of Black Hat already upscaling from the Omnitrix.

So At least 5-C, likely Low 5-B Black Hat? Maybe...

 

[Shiraito983]

Agree

 

[Half_Shiny]

Sorry it took a bit, I believe I have fixed the Spanish transcription errors. If I missed anything feel free to say so.

 

[Mayon_king12]

Sorry it took a bit, I believe I have fixed the Spanish transcription errors. If I missed anything feel free to say so.

You didn't add Kid Next Door to two-sided canon?

 

[Half_Shiny]

done

 

[Mayon_king12]

I think more evidence and explanations about why Kids Next Door is canon would be better for understanding.

For the villainous-kid next door crossover, AI Animation Studios had to work part-time with the original creators and writers for selective appearances in said videos, making their videos more authentic and true to the features. Tom Warburton confirmed this once again, and Diego Mejio, one of the producers of Villainous, stated that everything was canon and that Kid Next Door remained faithful to its script

 

[Half_Shiny]

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[Half_Shiny]

I added the key to the cipher found in several of the books, to help clarity on these sources moving forward.

 

[Half_Shiny]

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[Mayon_king12]

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[James_Plays_4_Games]

I don't have much to say about the accuracy right now, since I'm not actually knowledgeable about this verse.

However, in the meantime: I would like to thank you for making this. The canon of this series confused the **** out of me, and completely turned me away from a CRT about it.

Same! I hope this revision gets approved of so there can be a solid foundation regarding what is accepted by the VS Battles Wiki about Villainous canon. Even if the blog post is later revealed to have mistakes, it would be easy to improve on it at that point.

 

[Half_Shiny]

thanks bro means a lot

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[Half_Shiny]

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[Half_Shiny]

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[Half_Shiny]

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[James_Plays_4_Games]

It has been 3 weeks and 2 days since this thread's creation. Let's hope this thread gets noticed more now that it was posted in the Content Revision Promotion Thread.

 

[Mayon_king12]

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[Half_Shiny]

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[Mayon_king12]

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[Theglassman12]

Having a canon blog for the series is fine, though I'm neutral on the information in the blog given how little I know of this series.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Having a blog seems fine, but neutral about information and relying on proper translators.

 

[Half_Shiny]

is there anything I could do to move this to positive on the information? Just because I am not sure if are a lot of mods who know much about the verse and most interactions thus far have been neutral.

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

is there anything I could do to move this to positive on the information? Just because I am not sure if are a lot of mods who know much about the verse and most interactions thus far have been neutral.

You might get lucky and have evaluations that accept the blog post, but if you want to be proactive, I suppose you could search for people who understand Spanish and ask them to attest that the blog post is reliable, regardless of whether or not those people are staff members. As for staff members specifically: The current Translation Helpers appear to only know Japanese and Chinese, so I don't think they can help, but @Eficiente the Thread Moderator is listed as a supporter of Villainous and I know by experience off of the VS Battles Wiki that he understands Spanish, so his contribution would greatly benefit this thread. (I just realized after I wrote the aforementioned that you already messaged Eficiente.)

 

[Greatsage13th]

Having a blog seems fine, but neutral about information and relying on proper translators.

Having a canon blog for the series is fine, though I'm neutral on the information in the blog given how little I know of this series.

I understand that both of you are worried that there are faulty translations present. but, if so, someone would notice and make a thread to disagree with those specific parts of the blog. The blog wouldn't permanently stay in this exact form after all.

 

[Half_Shiny]

I think we should be mostly good on the translation side due to Bobsican who caught me on most of the translation mistakes.

 

[Half_Shiny]

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