BumpSans Vs Ryuunosuke (7-2-0) (GRACE)
Sans Vs Ryuunosuke Rules; Speed is equalized Sans has his standard equipment & Ryuunosuke has a knife Both start 30 meters away from another Sigh.... Once againvsbattles.com
Quoted Message above explains why this match is a stomp. It's located in the last few messages of this thread.
Ryuunosuke's wincon is one shotting Sans by attacking Sans in the future making it undodgeable as the match begins, as he's 9-A compared to Sans who's 9-B making that this a stomp.
Unless the character has one shotted that guy... not really, as Sans is 0.008803 Tons, and your dude is 0.009 Tons (not 0.0098), aka the difference is nonexistent.
Like I said Ryuunosuke upscales from a one shot. The difference is hence major now and the value from the calc is 0.0096 if you work it out fully. The creator just shortened it to 0.009 as you can see.
How? He gets one shotted the moment the fight begins. This is just not attacking anything I said. Literally the embodiment of "Nuh uh, anyways". What about San's getting one shotted after Ryuunosuke forsees himself hitting San's from the future?
Turns out nothing changed from your report and I didn't get warned with anything. The mods agreed with me regardless of what you think so Whatever I or the profile says still stands. Ryuunosuke infacts attacks his opponents from the future and reenacts it in the present after it resonates. You're in denial and lying for no valid reason.
sans dodges with his superior reaction speed, you see.
Sans wouldn't be able to dodge it as Ryuunosuke already forsees him hitting San's. It's based on his desire.
"Huh??? What do you MEAN that you can disagree with me?!?!"
He's also dead within like 2 seconds of the match starting with nothing he can do about it lol
Your disagreement doesn't make sense nor debunks what I'm saying which is why. His wincon doesn't stop him from getting one shotted by Ryuunosuke. He has the AP advantage and the hax to accomplish this.
What are you talking about? Nothing like that as argued in the debate lol. You're adding stuff just now
I mean if Ryuunosuke don't got very good dodging skill Sans' literal first attack is indeed lethal in less than a second, don't know how that was never mentioned lol
I know you're desperate for my engagement with you, but I think I'll cut you off here, ya addict!
It sorta doesn't matter when you consider the speed difference, Ryuunosuke isn't hitting an FTL guy just because he has precog.
His first move according to my opponents within the debate isn't using his abilities. It's using Social Influencing. This isn't valid. But to answer your question;
I'm not. I just find "Nuh uh, you're just wrong" an invalid argument. Nothing's wrong with trying to defend your side either so idk why you have a problem when I do it
.Excuse me?;
This has nothing to do with conventional speed. It's just pure future attacking hax similar to something like Yhwach's. Show me resistance to Precognition on San's profile for him to be unaffected. Clearly it's not something you can react to unless u can counter it with a resistance since it's not speed based. Idk why you brought this up.
San's neither has a counter to this ability as far as I can see, no Precognition resistance nor Is he more combat skilled than Ryuunosuke to the point it's unbreachable as Ryuunosuke's has Shinpei who has dealt with future knowing characters like Frisk to counter and has more combat feats overall. Feel free to argue with @ActuallySpaceMan42 if you disagree with his judgement.
aka someone with much higher reaction speed, skill and hax to stop himself from being hit will still be able to dodge.......all which Sans has
Ryuunosuke has blitz tiers Statistics Amplification to counter his reactions, since both are unquantifiable they'll cancel out each other. He doesn't start with his hax which stops himself from getting one shotted due to this;
He'll start with Social Influencing according to @ShionAH and his supporters aswell.
He'd be analyzed and countered in the first few few seconds of their fight upon seeing his movements once. Ryuunosuke also has his own specific ANPR aswell as Shinpei who fights alongside him has ANPR. The skill difference would be non-existent with these capabilities.
One that he only occasionally uses to "evade offguard attacks or attacks he cant normally react to," so clearly nothing offensive.
Ok? Occasionally ≠ Those will always or were always the only times he uses this ability. He uses his ability to attempt a blitz against Shide in their fights as a first move twice casually. I made the profile and those were just notable feats that were impressive for mid battle. The struggle is pointless.
......your point? how does that correlate to the fact that he will dodge? and use his haxes to dodge?
it absolutely does, as said by Spaceman "possesses an ability that counters precognition or there is really no possibility of them landing a strike due to an unbridgeable skill gap"
except.......knowing what Sans will do is not enough, Chara/Frisk knew it........they couldn't ever hit him no matter how many times they attacked, tried, and re tried, over and over, only hitting sans once he was literally too exhausted to move properly
1 he can win without hitting him by forcing him to stay still with 4th Wall Break
So his only escape from this ability is Teleportation? So then Ryuunosuke tires him out similar to ingame Undertale until he's done. A single break Sans takes would get him one shotted from his Unconventional Precognition and AP gap & Ryuunosuke will be able to barely up if he were to amp himself giving Sans no room to breath. Its still a stomp regardless.
Wdym? Knowing the future ≠ Prediction of movements my guy. Ryuunosuke is copying Sans movements as he attacks or makes a slight stature, anticipating & replicating them which would give him the same capabilities as him rather than Frisk knowing what Sans will do, and Sans countering by simply knowing of it happening himself. Not a comparable analogy. It is why Analytic Prediction and Precognition are different and one is a sub power of another.
He doesn't need to. All he needs is one moment of San's in a neutral stance. If that doesn't work then he tires him out until Sans is unable to teleport anymore since he doesn't have infinite stamina & this is ASSUMING Sans typically spams teleportation to escape attacks. Teleportation is the only thing Sans has to escape his fate and once that's gone he gets one shotted for reasons I mentioned in posts above.
1. Not a starting move
Well well well. Ryuunosuke's stat amp allows him to blitz people blitz tiers faster than himself. Aka Shide can blitz Ushio (characters inverse) who is faster than Ryuunosuke normally but Ryuunosuke with stat amp while his organs smashed, tendons broken and on the verge of death is blitzing Shide. A healthy Ryuunosuke due to SBA would be even faster
. Both unquantifiable at baseline and lead the same above 1 blitz tiers results. Due to this, I believe Ryuunosuke will not get hit.
Is this really all you had to contribute to the discussion?Fallen_Angelicx thought Ryanno would win, saw Sans won, so now he copes
Ohh I just seen this after my wiki loaded up since it's kinda laggy. I'll address this final piece and dip for now.
No it wasn't. Not entirely at least.
Cons to @ActuallySpaceMan42. He's stated to exist 2 seconds into the future on his profile.
Hence why when his attacks resonate into the present, they're surehits. He is attacking his opponent from the future but the only counter is resistance to Precognition or The skill gap is too big for it to work. Space accepted Ryuunosuke having sure hit attacks that resonate from the future which shows the actions needed for his hits to connect. Sans has no Resistances, counters or capabilities on his profile to evade these. Y'all are being dishonest on purpose.
Why is this even being brought up? Even if you disagree....;
You're punching air rn. It's not helping your case for the match removal. They're still accepted as surehits and undodgeable conventionally without the required resistance or skill. No one has indulged on that so far.
BumpJudgment for The Devil of Rhine: Sans VS Tanya von Degurechaff:
Both at 9-A Speed is equalized Fight takes place at the Brandenburg Gate (Berlin, Germany) Both start 20 meters from each other Fight ends in Death "Do you wanna have a Bad Time?":7 (JustANormalLemon, Stillwinston, FantaRin_The_First, TheKillerYT, MaidRips, Artorimachi_Meteoraf...
Sans vs Tanya should be removed, as the fight only used the 9-A version of the latter.
As Sans is now upgraded to 9-A, Tanya lost the one shot advantage, which is her only wincon.
