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Versus Thread Removal Requests (New forum)

Both Ash Ketchum fights should be removed due to this rule

The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc.

This means that Ash would still have speeds which are FTL comparated to his own combat speed for his reactions and Pokémon, as the latter are just attacks/techniques for his perspective, making both the Ritzuka fight and Naruto fight invalid, as the former can't anything against FTL reactions, while latter gets completely stomped against FTL speeds, as Naruto would literally get reduced to Ash's combat speed, getting completely blitzed.

Now that I think, this should apply to Kira Yoshikage vs Cynthia, as now Kira would be noticeably slower than her, making this invalid.

This applies to both Cyrus fights as well.
All of these except Ash vs Ritzuka please.
 
All of these except Ash vs Ritzuka please.
That rule means speed is equalized all around... it literally says combat speed is equalized to the slower character, and the same thing goes for thier reaction, perception and so on. It's not dropping the faster characters reactions below the slower characters reactions, just explaining that the same thing is happening to those speeds as well.
Again, this match has to be removed
I don't see how it's a stomp since the AP difference isn't that high, it would just be a physical battle.
 
That rule means speed is equalized all around... it literally says combat speed is equalized to the slower character, and the same thing goes for thier reaction, perception and so on. It's not dropping the faster characters reactions below the slower characters reactions, just explaining that the same thing is happening to those speeds as well.
Griffin. Pal. When you have reactions to the point where the opponent and all of they're attacks are statues its damn near impossible to hit them.
 
Griffin. Pal. When you have reactions to the point where the opponent and all of they're attacks are statues its damn near impossible to hit them.
My mistake. I misinterpreted what he was saying. I see what he means now, and will remove thos matches.
 
Dimentio's Match with Xeno Goku has to go, since the ladder has been 2-A for awhile now, and it completely ignores that fact that even when both where 2-B Dimentio has the highest 2-B AP on the site bar those who use all 7 pure hearts aka Bowser, Peach, and Mario, he was never just plain countless, it was more like countlessly countless
I agree with this. There is no way goku could have won against dimentio in that situation, therefore a stomp and needs to be removed from both profiles
 
I agree with this. There is no way goku could have won against dimentio in that situation, therefore a stomp and needs to be removed from both profiles
It's already been removed awhile ago and I'm pretty sure Mario's 2-B AP was reevaluated to be lower then when it was since I made that comment.
 
It's already been removed awhile ago and I'm pretty sure Mario's 2-B AP was reevaluated to be lower then when it was since I made that comment.
Oh I see, xeno goku was removed but son goku wasnt. I looked through that thread, right here, and the reasoning for including in on the profile was "if goku has a chance to win no matter how unlikely it is then its not a stomp" and I've seen threads like Monika vs HA DIO where they still technically have a chance to win but it was counted as a stomp regardless.
 
As a result of 4-A game Sonic Super forms being nuked the following locked pages need matches axed:
Xeno Trunks needs his match against Silver removed
Luigi needs his matches against Tails, Sonic, and Shadow removed
Bowser needs his match with Sonic removed
I have removed them from the Sonic files, just needs removal on the locked profiles
 
remove the sonic vs hoopa match as well since it was already established to be an invalid match up above
 
Oh I see, xeno goku was removed but son goku wasnt. I looked through that thread, right here, and the reasoning for including in on the profile was "if goku has a chance to win no matter how unlikely it is then its not a stomp" and I've seen threads like Monika vs HA DIO where they still technically have a chance to win but it was counted as a stomp regardless.
bump
 


should we remove this matchup?



i remember in the debate imaginym said


"I'm unsure, but I doubt Bloodlust would make Gomamon know how to/be able to use its abilities in ways it hasn't shown; It will do Out of Character things, but I doubt it can do stuff it doesn't know how to do, or in ways its powers haven't been shown to be able to be used in."



i highlighted that part because in the OP i said that both had knowledge of each other. I don't know if that changes anything significantly.



also


Dragonmasterxyz said:

btw, Considering this is Jou AND Gomamon, it should be noted that Gomamon is prevented from evolution. Otherwise this would be quite unfair. Also, Jou is capable of buffing Gomamon's power if need be, so take that into consideration.

Honestly, once revisions are accepted, I will be making a Vikemon profile which will have a Gomamon with a bit more to work with than Jou's.



should we delete this because of that? (my friend "sus" says it's fine and there's no need to delete it basically, i can't find it because he deletes his messages on his message board a lot)
 
Also should this matchup be removed as well



My reason is my explanation on this matchup i got some things wrong and i'm not sure if that changes it significantly.


I said this on the match


"he starts in the battle by stretching his arms and legs very far away. (they seem very far away)

then magical attacks.

though since he's bloodlusted and has knowledge

i assume he would use magical attacks because that's a smarter move."



only problem is after watching some more cuphead videos i saw that he doesn't always start with stretching his arms and legs very far away.


So i don't know what attack he always starts with.


I feel like that makes the match invalid or something.


Should it be removed because of that?




Edit:


I've been telling eficiente about this multiple times




also told Uchihaslayer96 about it too




i just want to know what you guys think. should it be removed or no?
 
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I don't really see why it be removed, since we holistically analyzed both of their ability sets, anyway. That is to say, the reasons upon which people based their votes took into account all the abilities of the characters, so I still think they should be valid.
 
I don't really see why it be removed, since we holistically analyzed both of their ability sets, anyway. That is to say, the reasons upon which people based their votes took into account all the abilities of the characters, so I still think they should be valid.

you read what i said to eficiente (both on the forum and on the wiki) as well as what i said on the message board as in your message board?
 
Can you accept that you're wrong, like you always are?
Why yes, I am right, considering an administrator has repeatedly refused to remove it. Considering Griffin just so happens to be like the only mod who cares about this thread it isn't getting removed.
 
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