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Valkyrie Crusade Tiering Question

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AKM sama said:
AKM sama said:
Chronos' AP justification also needs to be improved accordingly if she scales. Her current AP justification sounds like a justification of time manipulation with multiversal range. She should also be 2-B instead of "At least 2-B".
If they scale to Angra Mainyu, it should also be mentioned in their AP justification.
I guess Chronos's AP justification could be narrowed due to being able to control the multiverse's time?

Magatsuhi doesn't directly scales to Angra Mainyu if anything, more like they have a similar statement that gives a similar AP.
 
The God Of Procrastination said:
Tsubasa16 said:
So, i guess the profiles were updated? if so i guess they can be locked again.
Do they need to be?
Iirc Tier 2 pages and above have to remain locked or something similar.
 
"Stated to be able to banish everything into non-existence, which should include the verse's countless universes"

If the context here implies void manipulation/existence erasure, then I question her durability.

"I guess Chronos's AP justification could be narrowed due to being able to control the multiverse's time?"

That's still time hax with a multiversal range. Not AP.
 
That's the case yes. Her durability could be listed as unknown if anything, all that could imply a durability is that she she will never die until everything is cast into nonexistence, but that's more due to Immortality than durability.

Hhhm...i wouldn't know then, her feats are based on scaling from Norns which can casually cause massive time loops in two universes at once, as well as being able to stop time in every universe simultaneously.

Would that mean she'd have "2-B via Hax" or something similar or Unknow Tier with Multiversal Ranged Hax?
 
For example. Urthr, the Goddesse of the Past and Equal to Verthandi (Who herself is a Rare card too), is a Rare card. One of the LR cards is literally an just Explorer and another is an Trader. The card rarity don't really anything really power-wise.
 
The God Of Procrastination said:
That argument is invalid when the tier 2 recovery group exist.
That is not their case tho.

They are nothing but ordinary human and elf respectively. The Explorer is Above Average Human at least.

Really, there are Rare Cards who are who are Low 2-C and XL cards how are literal ordinary humans with no powers. Rarity doesn't mean anything power-wise.
 
Tsubasa16 said:
That's the case yes. Her durability could be listed as unknown if anything, all that could imply a durability is that she she will never die until everything is cast into nonexistence, but that's more due to Immortality than durability.
Would that mean she'd have "2-B via Hax" or something similar or Unknow Tier with Multiversal Ranged Hax?
Can you provide the source of Magatsuhi's statement too.

For Chronos, it would be unknown tier, time manipulation with multiversal range.

It would be better to link the related statements to each of the profiles.
 
Tsubasa16 said:
The God Of Procrastination said:
That argument is invalid when the tier 2 recovery group exist.
That is not their case tho.
They are nothing but ordinary human and elf respectively. The Explorer is Above Average Human at least.

Really, there are Rare Cards who are who are Low 2-C and XL cards how are literal ordinary humans with no powers. Rarity doesn't mean anything power-wise.
What are the card's names?
 
Can you provide the source of Magatsuhi's statement too.

For Chronos, it would be unknown tier, time manipulation with multiversal range.

It would be better to link the related statements to each of the profiles.

https://valkyriecrusade.fandom.com/wiki/Magatsuhi#Quotes

Her quote of Immortality is that she will only die when all is cast into oblivion/nonexistence. "When all is banished into oblivion, my soul will perish."

Okay, could you change Chronos's profile to that then?
 
Okay, do you have the statement where she is stated to be able to stop time in all the universes?

@Ant Can you unlock Chronos (Valkyrie Crusade)?
 
AKM sama said:
Okay, do you have the statement where she is stated to be able to stop time in all the universes?
"I'll stop time in every world. That way, no one gets older!"

I would take a screenshot of it to put there but i am unable at the moment. (In her case i assume i don't have to explain that World = Universe)
 
No need to take a screenshot, you can just provide the link.
 
Higher Rarity = Higher Stats. That's the very point of the Rarities existing really, but again they're just gameply mechanics that don't equal actual power.
 
AKM sama said:
It would be better to link the related statements to each of the profiles.
I assume it would be more practical to have scans of the specific quotes listed in the profiles rather than the whole page linked? I can take the scans.
 
Okay, that would be better.
 
Will do it then

Also i think that Chonos's Multiversal explanation should be listed under her Range? It seems kinda reduntant to have it after her "Time Manipulation" since she is goddess of time.
 
Tsubasa16 said:
Higher Rarity = Higher Stats. That's the very point of the Rarities existing really, but again they're just gameplay mechanics that don't equal actual power.
My actual point is that there are no inconsistencies if Platy is stronger.
 
The God Of Procrastination said:
My actual point is that there are no inconsistencies if Platy is stronger.
Platy literally is nothing but a ordinary girl in santa costume, nothing less, nothing more, and she has higher rarity and stats than Angra or Verthandi, Rarity/Stats =/= Power level.
 
If anything, i think the only other character i think would possibly scale to 2-B would be Ouroboros due to personifying the concept of Eternal Retur, which dictates that all existence always has been and always will end and begin anew infinitely across all of space and time.
 
Can somebody summarise what is left to do here?
 
The God Of Procrastination said:
There are no statements about how strong/weak she is.
There is nothing implying she is anything more than a girl wearing a santa costume.

That's the point of what i said before really, most characters have Specific powers, but no AP or Average Human AP.

Rarity and Stats will not be used to scale, they are literelly nothing but Gameplay Mechanics.
 
Antvasima said:
Can somebody summarise what is left to do here?
Most things were done/decided already. I think the only thing left would be about my wondering i mentioned.
 
Antvasima said:
Can somebody summarise what is left to do here?
Tsubasa is going to provide scans for justification.
 
AKM sama said:
Tsubasa is going to provide scans for justification.
I have just finished adding the scans of the specific quotes on Magatsuhi and Chronos's pages, if that's all.
 
Okay, should I close this thread?
 
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