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Yeah, and that is the exact instance in which we should use KE.Is simple, 6-C KE isn´t doing damage to 6-A
That's not what was agreed tbh. It was that the interior was, if anything, harder than the interior. The possibly thing came from Armored Boros fully scaling to it or not.It was discussed in a long CRT a while back. The consensus was that the interior is only possibly comparable to the exterior
Yeah, I disagree with this for these reasons.Absolutely not.
Murata is saying that they have almost no chance of winning against Orochi, those are not grounds to scale them to him in any capacity. At the absolute best, you’d get a ‘possibly far higher’ for their AP, but even that’s extremely iffy.
This is just blatantly wrong. Bang deflected one of Melz’ attacks, which means his AP would scale.
Then Bomb scales since he’s comparable to Bang. Rover scales due to being above Bang and Bomb. Half-Monster Garou scales due to tanking blasts from Rover. Gyoro Gyoro, Darkshine, Flashy Flash and Atomic Samurai scale due to being able to harm Half-Monster Garou or being superior to him. Carnage Kabuto scales due to being on par with Darkshine, Black Sperm scales due to beating up Atomic Samurai, and I can keep going.
This would upgrade damn near the entire verse to High 6-A based on the three generals having almost no chance to defeat Orochi. Not to mention that we don’t even know how they could potentially defeat him.
This isn’t even remotely enough for such a massive upgrade, and the logic used here is extremely flawed.
Yeah that's already been agreed on, even I disagree with the Orochi scale rn.Yeah, I disagree with this for these reasons.
Uhhh, shouldn't this scale orochi to rel+?Geryuganshoop:
Attack Potency: At least Small City level (As a Dragon-level Threat, he should be far superior to Royal Ripper and Bug God), Island level with Telekinesis (Launched rocks at near the speed of light), Possibly at most High 6A (Stated by Murata to stand a very small chance against Orochi when working with Melzagard and Groribas)
1st, I think he should be low FTL, but besides personal opinions, the scaling to Orochi has been disproven. The real discussion is scaling Groribas to Gery. Should I edit the CRT or make a new one to show the change in discussion?Uhhh, shouldn't this scale orochi to rel+?
i dont see why tbh.
If gerys attacks are near lightspeed and he has been stated to stand no chance against orochi then he should scale above him
I honestly dont see how groribas scales to geryuganshoop tbh1st, I think he should be low FTL, but besides personal opinions, the scaling to Orochi has been disproven. The real discussion is scaling Groribas to Gery. Should I edit the CRT or make a new one to show the change in discussion?
Groribas is also one of Boros' top fighters, kills his opponents too quickly to use his full moveset, is in the same rank as Gery, and Murata's statement would still put him in a comparable range to Gery.I honestly dont see how groribas scales to geryuganshoop tbh
Hmmm i did not know that.Groribas is also one of Boros' top fighters, kills his opponents too quickly to use his full moveset, is in the same rank as Gery, and Murata's statement would still put him in a comparable range to Gery.
Should i make a new thread for it?Hmmm i did not know that.
i agree with everythingSo how does everyone feel about the new scaling?
I agree.So how does everyone feel about the new scaling?
was rule does it break.As I already stated, Island level is a big no no because it breaks the kinetic ruled even worse than the Orochi calc does.
This is the result of Island level feat. It's wall level at best.
was rule does it break.
There is a destruction/AP calculation contradicting a kinetic energy calculation. The destruction/AP calculation would take priority over the kinetic energy calculation in this case as the AP calculation would be a better proof in regards to how much damage he/she is capable of in an attack.
So ur gonna ignore the example...
- For example, if a character launches a 200kg metal ball against a common wall at Mach 300, but the wall remains largely undamaged, the energy required to cause the minor damage on the wall would take priority over the kinetic energy derived from speed in this case.
What? No, that’s not how this works. Bomb is equal to Bang. If Bang scales to possibly 6-C, Bomb would too.Bomb can just downscale to Likely High 7-A+. Likely High 7-A+ Fubuki
Melz doesn't really need to scale, his regen seems to be his gimmick. Although, I do think he should scale I can see reasons for him not to.Not seeing a good reason for Melzalgald to be "Likely 6-C".
Couldn’t the same argument be made that Groribas’ acid breath is his gimmick? Especially considering that’s the one and only thing that he mentioned before Saitama killed him.Melz doesn't really need to scale, his regen seems to be his gimmick. Although, I do think he should scale I can see reasons for him not to.
Ah I get it. I'm not sure, I'll ask a calc member.No? why it breaks any KE rules and no we alredy discused that a 6-C AP isn´t doing damage to 6-A dura ship
Because said scans are already on the profiles.Ah I get it. I'm not sure, I'll ask a calc member.
Also why doesn't OP have scans?
Yeah, if he's #1 he 100% scales at or above Gery's AP.Considering the differing translations, we should get the raws and have someone translate them.