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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

Not that it has exactly been completely rejected, a little more context and information and it can be done again. I prefer to leave it to Null tbh.
 
"It is implied that Nousgalia is merely a cog in the Wheel of Order, with Eques rulling over it."
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
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Plot Manipulation

Plot Manipulation is the ability to create, destroy, or control the plot that governs reality. Commonly found in metafictional stories, the plot can be understood as a fundamental aspect of reality once one views that reality as fictional. It is the description of the world that doesn't only...
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Possible Uses

Users may be able to detemine how things will proceed by writing into the plot what is going to happen (emulating fate, causality and/or probability manipulation).
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Isn't order qualify for this? I mean if we consider Order & fate are separate & order is something like a plot and eques is manipulating that.

Also Higher dimensional existence for Eques explanation should be changed there was a statement from Silver Sea first Arc about Chief gods surpassing the every gods in their respective worlds and able to Perceive outside world later onwards. That suits better i think.
 
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
Isn't order qualify for this? I mean if we consider Order & fate are separate & order is something like a plot and eques is manipulating that.
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Nothing really implies plothax
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
there was a statement from Silver Sea first Arc about Chief gods surpassing the every gods in their respective worlds and able to Perceive outside world later onwards.
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Perceiving other universes isn't really HDE.
 
Oblivion_Of_The_Endless said:
Nothing really implies plothax
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Well I will look into it if I found order is like a plot in the series I will drop it here ( well from the my POV it looks like a plot)
Oblivion_Of_The_Endless said:
Perceiving other universes isn't really HDE.
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I was referring to Gods being the reality of the set world and eques (chief god) surpassing (Transcending) them and then getting access to Perceive outside world can be argued for HDE
 
Ok, transduality clear, lets we talk about root

I think immo 8 for root is really confusing, because root is what makes us is us. So root is us, root are the "real" us

Is really confusing why is get immortality type 8 for me reliant to me. I mean even if you have negate immo 8, you cant negate it, i mean what are you negate, the reliant?? Reliant between me and me???

So immo 8 for root is incorrect
I think immo 9 more correct, because even if you killed the person, it doesn't mean killed their root. And root located in different plane of existance, where the person in physical world but the root in abstraction world
 
Immo 9 would not work because if you destroy a person's physical body, their source would be right there, it's not like the source would be anywhere else but in the person's body.

Also yeah, nice job to everyobody who helped in the TD thread.
 
Dereck03 said:
Immo 9 would not work because if you destroy a person's physical body, their source would be right there, it's not like the source would be anywhere else but in the person's body.
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yes, but the requirements for that immo 9 are just in another plane. Where you can't be killed conventionally
 
Fixxed said:
yes, but the requirements for that immo 9 are just in another plane. Where you can't be killed conventionally
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No, they still exist in the same plane where they were killed, they just need NPI to be able to affect the source.
 
Dereck03 said:
Nothing to do with Immo 9.
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Nah I am trying to say Regenerating from just root should get HGR. You remember Celis root got destroyed or something when Graham took his head only his consciousness was still there (spirit) I need to check it out not sure still. Root should have some special abilities to interact with.
 
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
Nah I am trying to say Regenerating from just root should get HGR. You remember Celis root got destroyed or something when Graham took his head only his consciousness was still there (spirit) I need to check it out not sure still. Root should have some special abilities to interact with.
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All MG characters that can regenerate from the destruction of their source have HGR. And the profiles clearly state that in order to interact with the source you should have NPI to AE or Cm and now in anos case NPI to TD 2 or in Graham's case then NPI to NEP and TD 2
 
Dereck03 said:
All MG characters that can regenerate from the destruction of their source have HGR. And the profiles clearly state that in order to interact with the source you should have NPI to AE or Cm and now in anos case NPI to TD 2 or in Graham's case then NPI to NEP and TD 2
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That's not my point Anos states root exist deeper than Soul and Spirit. Complete destruction of spirit itself is HGR as they are formed of information type 2 type of thing or abstract existence. Anyway Let me confirm if Celis root was there or not. I forgot full thing.
 
Hmmm. Kind of interesting to know what you base it on to say that Spirit is Information Type 2, anyway, I'm leaving, I'm going to go read a novel since I have time off from college and finish my work for today here on the forum.
 
Dereck03 said:
Hmmm. Kind of interesting to know what you base it on to say that Spirit is Information Type 2, anyway, I'm leaving, I'm going to go read a novel since I have time off from college and finish my work for today here on the forum.
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I will try to explain this later I am also have few Manhwas to read.
 
Hey where the Transduality 2 negation on eques profile???

I think we can written it this way: Acausality (type 4) + Transduality negation (type 2; .....................)
 
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
Shouldn't Graham Qualify for Acausality type 5? I mean his true nothingness can have TD 2 and Acausality type 5 right.
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Tbh yes, he can have it but Anos should also be able to be added to his profile because his sources have merged with Graham’s absence, so why not? btw i haven't followed MGKF for a long time and actually recently, i started coming back a bit to help thread etc that i can help, even though i just opened it (lmao), also because Anos already has TD 2 so (Sayonara) 2ho.
 
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