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Unofficial Powers and Abilities Addition Thread 4

Antoniofer

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If people decide to create Imperceptibility then that power could work (limited to technology). Naturally, how the effect is performed also works (like using Technology Manipulation).
 
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There is a character with the ability to unconditionally "evade" (he does not actually dodge the attack) the first attack to one-shot him, what would that entail as?
 

Antoniofer

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That's too specific and yet, you rather rate it based in the nature of the power.
 
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Yeah its hard to tell, especially since he only got to use it once, where an attack pierced through him but he was perfectly fine right after. I suspected limited causality manipulation?
 

Antoniofer

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Without context I can't tell, it may simple phased through it, or even the attack itself failed due to its own weakness/limitation.
 
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Antoniofer said:
Without context I can't tell, it may simple phased through it, or even the attack itself failed due to its own weakness/limitation.
All that was stated was that he did not die due to the ability (which is called "untouchable"). It was like the attack never happened.
 
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GyroNutz said:
Maybe a limited invulnerability?
I would have said so but he has another ability where he becomes invulnerable to any surprise attacks so it would be weird for it to not use invulnerable for both in descriptions.
 
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Antoniofer said:
Sounds like it used Intangibility.
hmm, that could work, might need to reread the bit because I thought for sure he got hit but it is likely he was not.

Also I have been thinking some characters can put people in stasis but the closest ability we have for that is time stop, which is not exactly correct as people who have time stop or time manip resistance should not resist it. so shouldnt stasis be an ability on the site?
 
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Sealing is the closest to what I am talking about.

Btw even in the lock down are we able to add character and verse pages?
 

Antoniofer

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I suggested Cosmic manipulation when someone suggested Dark Matter Manipulation, so the first one can cover the second, but people associate it more with Reality Warping or large scale Energy Manipulation.

To cover Nature Manipulation we could make Environment Manipulation, due the different types of "natures".
 
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Antoniofer said:
To cover Nature Manipulation we could make Environment Manipulation, due the different types of "natures".
Personally i think Enviroment Manipulation should be its own page, as i don't think they aren't the same ability.

When i think about Nature Manipulation, i think control and manipulate the forces of nature, which can include Enviroment Manipulation but it could also include other abilities like:

Plant Manipulation, Animal Manipulation, Biological Manipulation, Life Manipulation, Elemental Manipulation, Energy Manipulation (Specifically energy contained in nature), Matter Manipulation and Weather Manipulation.
 
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Stefano4444 said:
Personally i think Enviroment Manipulation should be its own page, as i don't think they aren't the same ability.
I agree, the same guy has the ability do do something like that, allows him to singlehandedly construct things from materials around.
 
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I feel like cosmic manipulation is a little redundant since is basically just reality warping with universal/multiversal range, maybe even less.
 
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Thelastmlg said:
I feel like cosmic manipulation is a little redundant since is basically just reality warping with universal/multiversal range, maybe even less.
Personally i feel like Cosmic Manipulation should be treated like Unholy Manipulation, a power that is made up by sub-powers.

Cosmic Manipulation can involve things like Matter Manipulation (able to control and manipulate matter, anti-matter or dark matter), Elemental Manipulation, Energy Manipulation (cosmic energy, stellar/solar energy, geothermic energy, elettromagnetic energy, nuclear energy), Space-Time Manipulation, Creation, Black Hole Creation, Gravity Manipulation and Environmental Manipulation (control and shape planets, stars and galaxies).

Yes, Reality Warping can do all of that, but then again Reality Warping can do everything that Physics Manipulation can do, but we have still decided to make a distinction between warping reality and just manipulating the law of physics.
 
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Stefano4444 said:
I don't really like the idea of power made by sub powers, but i do like this one.

Although i think it could have a better name, like cosmological or cosmos manipulation, at least as "other names".
 
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The abilitiy to manipulate items should have it's own page. Whether it's some hero's ultimate armour or Escalibar. Pretty much the ability to manipulate them directly out of the control of the user or being able to change, remove or add values to them.
 
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I have been seeing this for quite a lot of characters and I would like to hear your thoughts about Undeformability, which gives you resistance or in some cases, immunity to deformation. For some reason, there are scenarios where characters with this ability doesn't rely on Regenerationn or elasticity to return their bodies back to its normal shape.

There's at least 5 types of Undeformability it describes:

  • (Type 1) Uncompressibility = The character is immune or is resistant to the process of compression to an certain extent that isn't physically possible for a normal human to survive through & can return their bodies back to its normal shape.
  • (Type 2) Unexpandability = The character is immune or is resistant to the process of being stretched and/or being expanded to an certain extent that isn't physically possible for a normal human to survive through & can return their bodies back to its normal shape.
  • (Type 3) Undistortability = The character is immune or is resistant to the process of being distorted (such as being bended or losing rigidity of their physical structure that keeps the body from breaking apart) to an certain extent that isn't physically possible for a normal human to survive through & can return their bodies back to its normal shape.
  • (Type 4) Severing Immunity = The character is immune to the process of their bodies/body parts being severed physically by sharp weapons without any visible signs of blood loss & internal body damage and can reattach them back together with no Regenerationn being involved.
  • (Type 5) Penetration Immunity = The character is immune or is resistant to the process of being pierced to an certain extent that isn't physically possible for a normal human to survive through & can return their bodies back to its normal shape.
 
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@The pen or the sword

Its a broad power that explains the reason behind how characters can survive through and reverse these methods of deformation to their bodies.
 
Do they need an explanation though? If a character is more resistant to certain type of damage that can be noted in the ability/note/weakness sections, making this incredibly specific power (It is far from a broad or common ability) for the twelve characters that don't fit into our current definitions just seems really pointless...
 
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I think Empowerment fits that ability I mentioned best. While it's primary use is to tank damage for someone else, the stat boost only happens after the person they're protecting says shit, though you'd imagine an ability like that would need supportive messages to empower the human shield, but the character with the ability can get empowered even if the person they shield doesn't want them and insults or tells them off, and that part is why I was confused because if they can be empowered even if the person doesn't want them to and only needs them to simply speak to boost their stats while shielding, then he should be able tk just boost his stats during any fight provided the opponent talks a lot and he can tank their attacks.

But then since it's a game, I'm not quite sure if the voice part is really needed since other enemies with the same "Shield" ability applied in battle still gain a stat boost even if the user says absolutely nothing.
 
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@The God of Procrastination That's basically what the ability can do.

@The pen or the sword

For abilities like this one, yes and usually on a case-by-case basis. There's 5 versions of this power and several dozen characters have at least one of them.
 
I really don't agree several dozen characters having at least one version of this ability is not nearly enough reason to make the page when it can easily be specified in the techniques/weakness portions of the profile or chopped up to another ability.

To me this seems like yet another ability page we really have no need for, we aren't super powers wiki where we need pages for literally every variant of every ability. Note the characters special durability feats in the technique/weakness/durability/resistance part of the profile and move on.

In the end if enough people feel it's a necessary addition/ability I won't fight it. I just really don't see the need for this page.
 
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I think it's definitely a form of Statistics Amplification, but Empowerment seems good because it's not a lasting ability like most cases of Reactive Power Level and it's not really based on increasing his stats tenfold and then multiplying or whatever with each hit. He only boosts a couple of stats acting as a human shield and those increased stats eventually go away after he stops shielding.
 
The God Of Procrastination said:
Me neither. We could have a simple page for types of durability, though, especially with temperature feats.
Might be worth doing but I think we'd better wait for the discussion on heating/freezing feats to conclude before trying to make such a page.
 
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Alright thanks. And I assume stating you've gotten way stronger after a specific time of events is Accelerated Development? And as previously discussed pushing past one's normal limits and still being able to fucntion is Berserk Mode?
 

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Not necessarily for either. If you get unusually stronger in a given amount of time (as in, unusual for the verse) then it'd be accelerated development. "Pushing past one's normal limits" is vague and would need more context for any ability.
 
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Hm. Well, in a fight the character I'm thinking of was able to beat another character, but it pushed him past the limits his body could usually exert and take, and he then collapsed after the fight. He was apparently functioning well beyond what his body could handle and was able to mask the fatigue and pain until only after he won, and numerous healing spells from a powerful sorcerer were shown to have no immediate effect on him. Seconds later, when trouble arrived, he sprang back up into action despite the sorcerer's worries, implying he still hadn't completely healed either and continued to fight on.
 
On a more serious note, one character I came up with has the power to turn off the durability off a target, causing the atmosphere to reduce them to elementary particles, which cannot exert any resistance. What would this be?
 
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Hm. Well, in a fight the character I'm thinking of was able to beat another character, but it pushed him past the limits his body could usually exert and take, and he then collapsed after the fight. He was apparently functioning well beyond what his body could handle and was able to mask the fatigue and pain until only after he won, and numerous healing spells from a powerful sorcerer were shown to have no immediate effect on him. Seconds later, when trouble arrived, he sprang back up into action despite the sorcerer's worries, implying he still hadn't completely healed either and continued to fight on.
Body Control.
 
GyroNutz said:
Not necessarily for either. If you get unusually stronger in a given amount of time (as in, unusual for the verse) then it'd be accelerated development.
What if it's normal to be able to grow infinitely in the span of a few weeks?
 
The God Of Procrastination said:
On a more serious note, one character I came up with has the power to turn off the durability off a target, causing the atmosphere to reduce them to elementary particles, which cannot exert any resistance. What would this be?
Very specific reality warping, matter manip, possibly law manip? Really depends how he accomplishes this feat.
 
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Ah. Seems like it fits Advanced Control.

But this instance of extending past his limits and then later on stating he grew "WAY stronger" (actual verbatim)... Would this all provide proof of Accelerated Development or maybe even Reactive Power Level? It's also an RPG where he could gain levels.
 

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@Fox

Berserk mode generally comes with a loss of awareness/morality, that seems like a good stamina feat more than anything.

@GoP

Then it's not accelerated development. Though I doubt any verse has that.
 

GyroNutz

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Only a select few characters from those verses can ascend numerous infinities in the span of "weeks", it's certainly not the norm. And accelerated development isn't something you can really judge relative to the Real World where peak humans cap out at 9-C with years of training. Fiction all too commonly shits on that.
 
Very specific reality warping, matter manip, possibly law manip? Really depends how he accomplishes this feat.

I have no idea how she does it, it doesn't even seem to be related to her equally mysterious power of pure durability negation, which is almost as esoteric as my other girl with one hit kill that is shown in-universe to have no aspect of any other ability.
I just realised that she has pure durability negation, which upgrades into litteral durability negation. The latter was intentional, but the former and pattern weren't.

By the way, you forgot physics manipulation and statistics reduction.
 
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@The God Of Procrastination Actually no, it doesn't really involve Superhuman Physical Characteristics because it isn't possible to automatically get it that way.

@The pen or the sword

Not only have I never tried to imply that every character automatically gets that but you also easily misinterpretated what I said. I refer to only the ones who were shown to have it, I never meant to imply all characters in general.

If I were to separate that to 6 superpowers and we created pages for each one of them, then they will end up redundant due to lacking enough information on a page. If we added the 5 sub-versions of the power under 1 power that encompasses it (also, 5 types isn't even a lot), then the page would be much more useful that way.
 
GyroNutz said:
Only a select few characters from those verses can ascend numerous infinities in the span of "weeks", it's certainly not the norm. And accelerated development isn't something you can really judge relative to the Real World where peak humans cap out at 9-C with years of training. Fiction all too commonly shits on that.
It would still be important in a battle.
 
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Animation would be a nice power to have added, I feel like it's common enough that we'd have several characters with the ability and the power itself is one that's very specific so having to roll it under other powers like Transmutation or Summoning just seems weird.
 
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Would being able to impose a time limit, change how fast things move, create new obstacles and alter existing ones, and creating new rules that people have to abide by upon entering the area of effect and win lest they succumb to death be Law Manipulation? Or Causality? Or both?

Similarly, suppose I create a brand new universe that can be entered via portal, but depending on where you enter the portal, things like the sizes of objects in the world or the time of the world itself can be altered to stop completely, speed up, or slow down. The Size-Shifting World also has places in it where you can go that will "shift" the sizes to big or small, and any action done within one world will translate over to the other, showing they're connected and exist at the same points in time. Creating worlds whose physics can be altered and exist at the same time and are all connected... Are there any worthwhile abilities here?
 
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This sounds less like you're talking about new powers and abilities, and more like you're just asking what abilities to list for a certain verse.

Could you please take that to a separate thread?
 
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I can see the first one, but the second paragraph is me genuinely not knowing what to discern. But I suppose. There ain't really no good place for "Verse Ability Evaluations" though and a mod would be best at making that thread to govern over it instead of me. I also don't want to spam the wiki with questions all over the place as I feel that'd be much more annoying. But whatever.
 
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With situations like that, I've tended to ask some combination of other people working on the verse, people I know on the wiki, and random people in chat. If all of that comes up with no answer, I make a short questions and answers thread about it.

But maybe you're right that some big thread for that would be nice.
 
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If someone imposed the rules of a turn based rpg, giving themselves and their allies infinite turns (basically acting normally) while their enemies can't do anything (only passive powers work) not even thinking or feeling like doing anything to act, what would this be?
 

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I'm with Agnaa, this thread is for adding new power or reevaluating the existing ones, not for what power qualify as what power.
 
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@The God of Procrastination

If a character manages to physically bend your body, flattens your body in a way that your skeletal system & organs will look flat as paper, pierce through the body and any other method to deform your body is clearly beyond the capabilities of what Superhuman Physical Characteristics can handle & definitely will not prevent that from happening.
 
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@The pen or the sword

Not only have I never tried to imply that every character automatically gets that but you also easily misinterpretated what I said. I refer to only the ones who were shown to have it, I never meant to imply all characters in general.

If I were to separate that to 6 superpowers and we created pages for each one of them, then they will end up redundant due to lacking enough information on a page. If we added the 5 sub-versions of the power under 1 power that encompasses it (also, 5 types isn't even a lot), then the page would be much more useful that way.
....I never made any statement about every character having this power in fact my main complaint is how few characters there are with some version of this ability, so no idea what your saying I misinterpreted.


I think the single page itself is redundant cause all the ability represents is different form's of durability/resistance that can easily be listed in other parts of the profile rather then creating another powers page. As Ive said before, if you and others really feel it's necessary I won't fight It I just find it very unnecessary.
 
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@The God of Procrastination

If a character manages to physically bend your body, flattens your body in a way that your skeletal system & organs will look flat as paper, pierce through the body and any other method to deform your body is clearly beyond the capabilities of what Superhuman Physical Characteristics can handle & definitely will not prevent that from happening.
But being more durable will prevent that.
 
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@The pen or the sword

Durability won't help you at that point if all your internal organs become flatten instantly from compression, your body bended in half like paper (your spine and other parts of the skeletal structure would break from that), being severely pierced through the body would result in death and any other methods of deformation already makes this self-explanatory.

So no, this ability does need a single page just for that.
 
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@The God Of Procrastination

Almost all of these methods would instantly kill the character, durability won't let you survive deformation that happens instantly and would end up killing the character in the process.
 
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@The God Of Procrastination

It doesn't matter how high your physical durability is, if you're vital organs & bones is flatten and everything else that is physically impossible to survive from, it would still kill the character regardless.

@Agnaa

I'm referring to scenarios where the character resists deformation, one of these examples would be resisting compression. When the character resisted compression from an object falling ontop of them, they were only able to survive it at least 2 times without any visible signs of Regenerationn & no blood was noticeable around their flatten bodies and they reverse their deformed body back to normal.

If they get compressed for the 3rd time, then that would kill them, which wouldn't be Type 2 Immortality since they can still die that way and can't be Mid Regen either because Mid Regen is supposed to allow you to recover from that. So this would be considered as a type of Undeformability, more specifically to be limited Uncompressibility since there is a limit of the number of times the character can resist compression.
 
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That sounds like either durability which was overcome, or something so completely absurdly specific (this character can survive getting compressed two times as long as the object isn't heavier than this amount and if they get compressed any more times they die) that it shouldn't get a page.

The closest things I've ever seen in my lifetime to what you're talking about don't have number of times limits like that, and would just be type 2 immortality/mid regen.
 
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