The entire point of the fight is Sans stonewalling Chara as much as possible in an attempt to make them give up on resets, not to permanentely kill them. He knows that he cannot truly win given that Chara has literally infinite tries, so he just tries to make a fight that Chara cannot truly win, even if it means doing shit like that.
You do not need to be x times stronger than amount of people to kill all of them, a 9-C minigun for example can easily kill hundreds of unarmed humans for example.
and said thread was rejected, could you please just link the argument? i don't want to have to read an entire thread just to know one of your arguments
minor nitckpick, but it was frisk and not chara
no. the second attack was chara right?
The argument is based on Monsters gaining human SOULs becoming a "beast with incredible power", implying they're >>> a full powered Human SOUL.
Alright, I think you forgot one thing in particular.
This is not the thread to talk about who is who. @Originlima already derailed, do not join in it too.
yeah, because having the equivalent of 7 souls transforms him into a monster again, and thus have the same extra boost you described
Why should it matter? He says that with 7 Souls he becomes a God like Asgore would, meaning that he gets the same boost a normal monster would.
It still wouldn't grant Frisk Mid-Godly regeneration. It may work similarly to that since the Resurrection gets the user a new body and SOUL via weird hax, but it's not a reconstruction of the body or the SOUL that were destroyed. Plus, it's not even triggered by the damage, it's triggered by Death. In the Asriel case it classifies as regen because the SOUL literally undoes the damage.
Let's not stack power levels, please.
quite a few people do here. no need to judge bro
There is a hole in logic with what you said.
That is regeneration, and that is already on the profile. It's not mid-godly, which is what you're advocating for.
There is absolutely a need to judge, that's the purpose of the entire thread, debating why a thing should or should not be. Here, there is a total of zero evidence for Mid-Godly Regeneration. No amount of agreement in the world can make something that has not been proven to be considered true.
With this logic every "Godly" regeneration is invalid and should be replaced from Resurrection as they do not regenerate but just recreate said body, but we both know that's not the case.
because it is shown that when he acquires a power equivalent of 7 human souls, he goes back into being an actual monster
They regenerate the body from a point of nothingness.
The concept of regeneration is being triggered by simply being damaged, not by death. No, this is not regeneration, if Frisk is turned to ashes, the ashes are not going to be put back together (for lack of evidence and it being unneeded, of course), they will resurrect with a new body and SOUL, entirely separate from said ashes, in fact, it will be in a point in time completely different from said ashes even being a thing. That is not regeneration, at all. This is factually just not the hax you're claiming it is.
Mid-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete erasure of body, mind, and soul.
...that's literally what I arguing for Frisk my guy. The entire argument is them being able to regenerate from SOUL + Body destruction through pure DT as weaker levels of DT can recover from such destruction via LOADing.
It's you who is calling Mid Godly regen "resurrection" lol. Besides Frisk does not die, they are literally refusing to.
Immortality Type 3 exists for a reason.
that omega flowey doesn't since he doesn't come back to being a monster unless he has a power equivalent of 7 human souls
That is an arbitrary assumption. He gets 7 SOULs = He is poweful as a monster with 7 SOULs, so if he gets 6, the same happens.
Do you want applause? A biscuit maybe?
In the lower cases, it's not regeneration, it's resurrection through time travelling, they go to a point before said SOUL and body are destroyed, in this case you literally cannot even argue for regeneration, as there is no parallel. Also "complete erasure"? Those chunky pieces of SOUL are still pretty visible, it doesn't classify as Mid-Godly even if it was regeneration.
In that case their SOUL is not being completely erased therefore it's not Mid Godly regeneration, it's just Low Godly, and that is already accepted.
Cool, this does nothing to reply to my point, and it's already on their profile. Plus, T3 Immortality is inherently limited until proven otherwise, you have not proven otherwise.
no, if he gets 7 souls=he becames a monster=he gains the powers of a monster with 7 souls since he is a monster with seven souls, this wouldn't apply to when he is not a monster
Mid Godly means that-
I said in case both SOUL and Body are gone lmao.
In case they cannot LOAD, they still can regenerate. I do not see them being unable to return from complete erasure given DT already shown to cover these levels. Simple as that.
Again, read again. I am not arguing Frisk's doing against Asriel being a Mid Godly feat. But is just putting a 2+2 about if Frisk gets erased on such levels.
He was not a monster when he absorbed 7 souls tf are you talking about?
you are not reading what i am saying
he was not one before the absortion, however he goes back into being one after it, so he gets the extra boost since he is a monster again, omega flowey isn't, so he doesn't get the extra boost you described
They are not. The body is still there, Frisk is just dead.
Okay, that's still Low Godly as Frisk has a mind.
"It happened on a lower level, so obviously it would happen in a level of destruction that Frisk never experienced."
It doesn't!
Okay thats cool and all but do you agree with Limited Law Manip atleast?
Or maybe you're just... wrong. Majority is a thing for a reason, it won't stop being applied because you're seethinga about it.
You're telling me that they cannot LOAD if their body is completely atomized?
I dunno man, because I never recalled a character being erased on both a soul and mind level regenerating getting just Low Godly, because its description is of "The ability to regenerate from the complete physical destruction of the user's body, instead restoring it from their disembodied consciousness, whether that be their soul, mind, some other nonphysical aspect of themself, esoteric or metaphysical energy, or something else."
I will do indeed. I put all the evidence and Staff agreed, as they know that's enough.
You do realize that he was Photoshop* Flowey when he got those SOULs, right?
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Then prove it. Right and wrong is not decided by majority, it's decided by arguments and debating, if not, just make a poll to get things done. We're not playing this game, Ultra.
I am not telling you that. They LOAD from their consciousness.
That is Low Godly regeneration's description, Ultra.
You put nothing.
Staff is not knowledgeable on the requirements for MG Regen then. Frisk's body, SOUL and mind are never erased once in the game so you're not putting Mid Godly regeneration which require all three. You never proved any of it.
