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i found it on the undertale lesser dog profile.
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UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD
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Only that one right?
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not sure
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actually it's not the only one. the monsters in general have this
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All monsters do, yes
So they really can't harm someone above their pay-grade, unless they're sans
So they really can't harm someone above their pay-grade, unless they're sans
ShionAH
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Sans is the weird kid
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Lel
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so that means my match with lesser dog should be removed given suisei was 896, 500 joules
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does that means suisei's match with lesser dog should be removed given she's 896, 500 joules>?
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Probably, yeah
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Solved
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i removed the match
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My Topic Ban ended, so I made a [BIG, BIG], [[BIGGER AND BETTER THAN EVER]] CRT for Undertale.
The_Yellow_Topaz
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I think it could work, especially when we know how much power each recruit is contributing to the machine.
I made a calculation for the power of each recruit.
Deltarune: Recruits Power
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Well, I'm back-
NO.
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Getting to this. No.
SAVEs in Undertale are different, as they're only Checkpoints in time which allow you only to go in a different point of time in the same timeline.
In Deltarune they act as independent timelines.
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Well, in Deltarune the save file system itself act different.
(Not going against, more like supporting.)
Timelines overwritten, copied, erased, and mainly, no deja-vu effect.
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Besides Low 2-C Photoshop Flowey is dumb by the moment that the Earth is still somehow intact given he still needs the 7th SOUL to destroy humanity.
Not saying he should be just 8-A x 6 (heck he can be 7-A, High 6-B and so on, given the exponential boost) but we know way too little in that incoherent mess that is his tiering to give an actual rating,
Not saying he should be just 8-A x 6 (heck he can be 7-A, High 6-B and so on, given the exponential boost) but we know way too little in that incoherent mess that is his tiering to give an actual rating,
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Barrier is an ultimate construct, yes, Flowey can still pass the barrier but not break it....
I doubt that Flowey destroyed the UT, since otherwise he would crush the barrier too
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The barrier is 2-B given that Asriel needs effort to break it despite having 7 SOULs.
But none of these matter to Photoshop Flowey's tiering, Unknown just fits better.
But none of these matter to Photoshop Flowey's tiering, Unknown just fits better.
The_Yellow_Topaz
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Asriel could've just teleported everyone outside the barrier if he could go past it, but LET'S SKIP OVER THAT,
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I'm sure the Barrier cancels teleportation or similar abilities, since sans
ShionAH
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True sans also states he gave up trying to escape a long time ago implying this
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Also because the Barrier is made from Human Magicians, and all of Sans' powers are magic-related, so...
The_Yellow_Topaz
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But doesn't cancel out literally any other power? Yeah right. Plus, Asriel CAN leave the barrier due to his soul being strong enough, so using Sans doesn't make sense.
Bro can just walk through the barrier as he has everyone, and then shove them off him on the surface.
ShionAH
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They used sans because it shows just "teleport lol" doesnt work
The_Yellow_Topaz
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It does when it's established that people with 2 souls can leave the barrier no problem. Sans doesn't have two souls, he barely has one since it's so weak. You really can't compare him to Azzy.
Ultimately doesn't matter because he'd have to break it anyway (otherwise Frisk would be trapped), but I find it weird how Omega Flowey's powers, which should also be able to leave the barrier, just don't.
ShionAH
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Yes they can because their soul is strong. Not because they can teleport
I always thought it was because frisk blocking his way and Flowey with his massive ego wanting to show how Frisks DT is nothing compared to his before he leaves the barrier kinda like when the villian instead of pushing the button fights the hero to show how they are superior.
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Cringe.
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Flowey always could actually. But he just wanted to torture Frisk endlessly first.
The_Yellow_Topaz
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Cough cough, cop out.
I thought of a feat for Frisk during their fight with Flowey, is it worth it?
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The_Yellow_Topaz
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Yeah, gigantic bullet kinetic energy.
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Would that scale to Photoshop Flowey's LS?
Same with Frisk's given that they should be comparable to that, as that's still the full power of a single SOUL.
The_Yellow_Topaz
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I can calc the twisting of the gun to Flowey and multiply it by 6.
Frisk is not at their full power for obvious reasons, but yeah, they definitely would scale.
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Why that?
I mean that the 8-A is the full strength of a single "normal" SOUL with Frisk being at that level there.
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I wonder if you actually need a Monster + Human SOUL combo to leave the barrier and not just a bunch of Human SOULs
The_Yellow_Topaz
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One SOUL = X LS
O. Flowey has 6 of them combined.
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Oh that lmao.
Thus making the "possibly Infinite" for Asriel even more solid.
(Would Asriel be x7 that as the minimal LS rating tho)
The_Yellow_Topaz
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Yeah, anyway, I got Large Town level, so I'm kinda freaked out.
No it doesn't... It's still the same distance away than before.
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