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It's peak.HAHA I JUST WATCHED IT.
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It's peak.HAHA I JUST WATCHED IT.
Not actually. Invulnerability is something general and lots of profiles have it. UT just treats it in a game mechanic, but it is still INV. So no, it's something that a character can use to improve durability as I stated before.INV is a stat unique to Undertale, with its own properties, we cannot interpolate a Resistance that comes from a stat to any random character that has some kind of invulnerability.
Speed is also a stat and it does not increase with LV, yet it is treated as a canon stat. I don't understand why INV would not be canon since the game treats it like a canon thing, even being mentioned in items, and characters referring and interferring with it, such as SansExcept INV isn't a stat in the same way as ATK or DEF, it doesn't get higher as you gain more LV for example.
No, it does not. Sonic changes his durability once he gains invulnerability as I showed you, I don't know why you're refusing to see it already since I showed you this.it doesn't "add" to your durability, your durability stays the same regardless of invulnerability
Once again you're not reading and just spamming this comments. I did not say Dura Neg is AP, I said it ADDS to AP just like Omnipresence adds to speed as I showed up above. Please, read things before taking a heads up on someone's commentary.Dura Neg is not AP in the slightiest
Sonic's durability literally changes on his profile thanks to INV, I literally sent you... And sorry, but if you're claiming to be one of those who worked on it.. then you did not a great job if you don't even understand the job you did.No it doesn't, it says that it makes him harm to kill and harm, just like how frisk has their revival and time manip on their durability section for the same reason
I am part of the people who made Sonic invulnerable in the first place, to say that i am reading wrong and that you are right no matter what is really bold
"Varies, Universe level+, up to Multiverse level, possibly Multiverse level+ at his peak (Able to sustain damage from Solaris and continue fighting.[15] Temporarily caught and held back a laser fired by The End with his bare hands[16]), higher with Super Sonic Boost, far higher with Cyber Corruption, even higher with the Perfect Parry (With the trade-off of needing to be timed precisely compared to the original Parry, Super Sonic is stated to be capable of parrying anything with it[17]). Invulnerability makes it difficult to conventionally harm him"No, it does not. Sonic changes his durability once he gains invulnerability as I showed you, I don't know why you're refusing to see it already since I showed you this.
Because "speed" is a stat, sure, but it's also... Speed. Like, the speed characters walk in. Inv could just be the player getting up after falling down, or "mercy frames", and Sans ignores that because he has no mercy at this point. Like, there's nothing in-universe that "proves" Frisk becomes invulnerable straight up after getting hit, to my knowledge at least (unless I'm proven wrong of course)Speed is also a stat and it does not increase with LV, yet it is treated as a canon stat. I don't understand why INV would not be canon since the game treats it like a canon thing, even being mentioned in items, and characters referring and interferring with it, such as Sans
Undyne the Undying seen this:"mercy frames"
You mean the chick who gives you a spear to defend yourself?Undyne the Undying seen this:
| Multiverse level, possibly Multiverse level+, higher with Super Sonic Boost (Invulnerability makes it difficult to conventionally harm him)"Varies, Universe level+, up to Multiverse level, possibly Multiverse level+ at his peak (Able to sustain damage from Solaris and continue fighting.[15] Temporarily caught and held back a laser fired by The End with his bare hands[16]), higher with Super Sonic Boost, far higher with Cyber Corruption, even higher with the Perfect Parry (With the trade-off of needing to be timed precisely compared to the original Parry, Super Sonic is stated to be capable of parrying anything with it[17]). Invulnerability makes it difficult to conventionally harm him"
His Dura don't change once he gets invul, his profile just say that Invul makes difficult to conventionally harm him, because Invuln don't change his dura, Invul negate the damage that he receive
But Speed is not treated nor mentioned AT ANY part in the game, and it's never used AT ANY part as well. INV in UT is literally mentioned in the temmie shop and Sans as well. Also, every stat in the game is canon, I don't see a reason for INV not to be canon as well.Because "speed" is a stat, sure, but it's also... Speed. Like, the speed characters walk in. Inv could just be the player getting up after falling down, or "mercy frames", and Sans ignores that because he has no mercy at this point. Like, there's nothing in-universe that "proves" Frisk becomes invulnerable straight up after getting hit, to my knowledge at least (unless I'm proven wrong of course)
ATK, DEF and Speed are "canon" because they are just physical stats. Inv isn't. Besides, INV is never mentioned except from texts explaining how it works (in the game of course, not in universe) and you'd think in a meta game like Undertale characters would mention it if your character became invulnerable to damage for a couple seconds, except it's never mentioned. At all.But Speed is not treated nor mentioned AT ANY part in the game, and it's never used AT ANY part as well. INV in UT is literally mentioned in the temmie shop and Sans as well. Also, every stat in the game is canon, I don't see a reason for INV not to be canon as well.
I don't think you're reading that right. He has higher durability with Super Sonic Boost plus Invulnerability makes it difficult to conventionally harm him. The higher durability doesn't come from the invulnerability, neither does the invulnerability come from the higher durability.| Multiverse level, possibly Multiverse level+, higher with Super Sonic Boost (Invulnerability makes it difficult to conventionally harm him)
Explain why he gets a higher durability with Invulnerability in this part then.
They actually understand the characters unlike 80% of the fanbase whom have been utterly plagued by fanon nonsense.Another reason why "To the Bone" is peak is that it doesn't flanderize Sans and Papyrus.
Flowey pre-Asriel fight:Undyne the Undying seen this:
I doubt that people even understood the reason why he attack us on genocideThey actually understand the characters unlike 80% of the fanbase whom have been utterly plagued by fanon nonsense.
The INV stat in UNDERTALE increases the DURATION of post hit invulnerability.Not actually. Invulnerability is something general and lots of profiles have it. UT just treats it in a game mechanic, but it is still INV. So no, it's something that a character can use to improve durability as I stated before.
I would like to remind everyone that INV isn't invulnerability but instead invulnerability DURATION. INV effects Sans' KARMA because it lengthens the time between his 1 hit points of damage. It doesn't make Frisk more durable at all.
Simple, he doesn't, it just notes that invulnerability makes him hard to normally harm| Multiverse level, possibly Multiverse level+, higher with Super Sonic Boost (Invulnerability makes it difficult to conventionally harm him)
Explain why he gets a higher durability with Invulnerability in this part then.
I mean like, I'm really sure Toby intended Azzy to have this ability or smth else, considering the fact that we're loosing the grip in this world in Asriel's fightExistence erasure?
It's... actually a good question.Why would he do that?
I mean, they're his followers. What does a scientist need with followers? If it's to spread his knowledge -Assumed he's not too insane to do so- why through creating creepy people instead of books or something?
& why distribute them so randomly?
Well, when we were creating our own goner, we were assembling him like a LEGO. And it wasn't really having its own mind and that timeAlthough, another interpretation is that it's the Goner Maker in that it "makes" people become "goners" somehow.
昔むかし ひそかに語りつがれる 言い伝えがあった。Source on those texts, please?
It's from the code itself , you know, in the code of deltarune everything what is gaster related is just typed differently, for example normal sprite would be spr_insertname while gaster related stuff will be IMAGE_PLACEHOLDER or SOUND_, PLACE_ and other stuff.Wait.... Forgive my asking then, but where do we see/find the thing that's identified as the GONER_MAKER Machine?
My best guess is it's an internal name for the "character creator" in Deltarune. How (in)accurate is that guess of mine? No offense meant.
And then Goner was destroyed by some second creature who isn't Gaster.Speaking of that avatar, I wonder why Gaster would involve himself with creating that. Presumably it's part of some experiment he's overseeing.
But it's hard to figure out how that could be applied to the other goners/followers.
Interesting.Incidentally, if "Goner" means Missing -Unless that was just a strange choice for Japanese localization-, it's curious what that could mean for the fate of that avatar/character.
They certainly are missing from the plot. But will they stay that way?
I don't think it's because Frisk dodged pieces of a broken timeline, more so that, if Hyper Goner can pull an entire timeline into itself, escaping the force of its pull would require immeasurable speed.Greetings. I have a question i want to ask, whats the basis for Immeasurable Asriel/Frisk (and by extension Chara)?
Because im looking at Hyper Goner, it doesnt SEEM to be erasing the timeline in a conventional way. It kinda looks like it shatters it to pieces and absorbs it from there.
Soooo.....dodging a piece of broken timeline = Immeasurable? I just wanna make sense of it all.
It doesnt even look like Frisk is trying to escape the force of its pull- more like resisting it. You'd be more going side to side to dodge the pieces,or hell, im pretty sure you can stand still and you wont die to the attack. Correct me if im wrong thoughI don't think it's because Frisk dodged pieces of a broken timeline, more so that, if Hyper Goner can pull an entire timeline into itself, escaping the force of its pull would require immeasurable speed.
that's weirdI don't think it's because Frisk dodged pieces of a broken timeline, more so that, if Hyper Goner can pull an entire timeline into itself, escaping the force of its pull would require immeasurable speed.
To be fair this is more like a Black Hole here. I wouldn't say it's actually Immeasurable LS given how weird and vague the mechanics at play are here, but it's clear they did it through sheer movement.wouldn't it just require immeasurable LS? It's not like someone not being pulled in by something absorbing debris at rela+ speeds would make said person rela+ either