Two reality warpers fight over who gets to bring chaos to the universe

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Now that wyrm has been downgraded and cannot solo dragon ball , lets put him against a reality warper who has an equal obsession with bringing chaos to the universe and has similar feats.

-Speed is equalised

-Wyrm is bloodlusted whilst janemba is in character

-Fat Janemba is being used

Wyrm: 0

Janemba: 4


Wyrm


Janemba

 

[The_Divine_Phoenix]

Looks to me like Janemba outhaxes. I'm not sure about the AP, but it looks like Janemba might have that too. The only thing Wyrm seems to have on Jamemba is Intelligence and even then, Janemba kept up with Goku and is well aware of the capabilities of his hax.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Unfortunately it's a stomp. Janemba has far higher AP and outhaxes as well.

 

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I think ssj3 goku in the movie did shake the universe which has been calculated to be high multi solar system, although he doesnt have much apart from that. Meanwhile wyrm managed to blow up a star cluster casually with the wave of his wand.

Although that isnt really noted on janembas profile

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

4-A is a massive tier. DB 4-As are fairly close to being galaxy level, a star cluster is like several light years.

 

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There were hundreds of stars being blown up in that image tbf. So the number is likely way greater.

 

[The_Divine_Phoenix]

So, a stomp then.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

There were hundreds of stars being blown up in that image tbf. So the number is likely way greater.

Still nothing compared to being nearly galaxy level

 

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I supposed that depends on how quickly kid buu destroyed the galaxy.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

change it to fat janemba to be more fair

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Even with fat Janemba, there's still the massive AP gap.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

yeah but the stupidity would help wyrm more

 

[The_Divine_Phoenix]

Janemba isn't stupid though, at least not in his 2nd form, in his 1st he's childish but not stupid.. He knows how to fight and how to use his abilities, that should be enough to put down Wyrm. Above Average intelligence won't make up for the Hax and AP gap.

 

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Would this be better or worse if speed was unequal?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Pretty sure Janemba has the speed advantage.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

they have the same speed though

make wyrm bloodlusted then it would not be a stomp

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Massively FTL+ can be a million times FTL or a trillion times FTL. The guy who is a trillion times faster is going to blitz.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

then keep s equal

 

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Ok, ive given wyrm all the advantages i can. So what is your vote?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Bloodlusting Wyrm won't do anything when he has no meaningful way to hurt Janemba.

 

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Will his magic or spatial manipulation be any help here?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Does he use spatial manipulation to attack opponents?

 

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Not sure. He likely would if he were bloodlusted.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

okay speed is equal wyrm is bloodlusted and janemba is at his weakest

i vote janemba due to the fact that the second wyrm does anything he will clone himslef or transmutate him to death or incapacitate and i don't think wyrm can get past the regen

also remove the other votes since they are invalid now

 

[The_Divine_Phoenix]

I mean, whichever version of Janemba you use doesn't make much of a difference, the fat one is just more childish. Janemba still takes it via AP and Hax.

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

so now two votes for janemba

 

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Totallynotchewbacca Those same votes are from people who are voting for janemba right now

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

ohhhh shooot

carry on then

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

you can't vote on your own thread i believe

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Janemba due to better hax and likely far better ap.

You can't vote on your own thread.

 

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Oh snap. I must have missed that rule. Imma just redact that. You saw nothing

 

[Totallynotchewbacca]

https://youtu.be/PnEWvBsRjBo?t=16

 

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bump

 

[Quantu]

This seems stomp-ish.

 

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I dont think fat janemba has the ap gap to one shot. does he?

 

[Quantu]

Well, DB Toeiverse characters are insanely high into 4-A, which is a massive tier.

Wyrm's 4-A justification: "Casually blew up star systems".

Yeah, Janemba one shots, or haxes him.

 

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it is a fairly large amount of star systems, but i see what you mean.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

It'd be nice if someone could calculate Wyrm's feat. Janemba still stomps though.