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Top Five Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier 8: New Forum, same rules

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Basically only characters who don't have higher-dimentional abilities or stats then their dimentional level (I.E. a 10D character can't have 11D hax, for example). Even if said stuff is pratically useless. This also includes protection from a higher dimentional being, range and resistances. Only the base stats are considered (I.E. if a character has a High 3-A technique but is only 9-A by itself, then the character will only count for 9-A and not for High 3-A).

Also, I removed characters I could tell at a glance were no longer a member of the tier they were listed under.

Also also, I've added a section with the versus threads to decide certain placements at the very bottom of the list. So if you make one please link it here.

Tier 0: My OC

Tier High 1-A: Your OC

Tier 1-A:

1. SCP-3812

2. Characters from The Elder Scrolls

3. Hypnos (Cthulhu Mythos)

4. Characters from World of Darkness

5. Characters from Megami Tensei

Tier Low 1-A:

1. Characters from Marvel Comics (Speed Unequalized) / Characters from A Wild Last Boss Appeared (Speed Equalized)

2.

3.

4.

5.

Tier High 1-B:

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

Tier 1-B:

1. Gods (Magi)

2. Characters from Instant Death (Yogiri, UEG, and Touichirou)

3. Characters from Warhammer 40,000

4. Characters from Shinza Banshou

5. Characters from Transformers

Tier High 1-C:

1. Characters from Doctor Who (such as The Six-Fold God) /Mother Eater

2. Will of the Honkai

3. Characters from To Aru Majutsu No Index (High Priest mainly)

4. Characters from Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann

5.

Tier 1-C:

1. Azathoth (GURPS)

2. Great Dragon

3. Akashic

4. Star Maker

5. Characters from Nasuverse

Tier Low 1-C:

1. Characters from Nasuverse

2. Characters from Warhammer Fantasy

3. Xue Ying

4. Il Ilah

5. Characters from Doctor Who

Tier 2-A:

1. Characters from Puella Magi Verse

2. Characters from Final Fantasy

3. Lavos / M (Shikkoku no Sharnoth)

4. Characters from Pokémon

5. Anos Voldigoad

Tier 2-B:

1. Characters from Pokémon

2. Characters from Destiny

3. Anos Voldigoad

4. Rimuru Tempest (Web Novel)

5. Characters from Tokyo Babel

Tier 2-C:

1. The Nameless

2. The Dawn Machine

3. Nil (Her Tears Were My Light)

4. Eru Ilúvatar

5. The Outsider (Dishonored)

Tier Low 2-C:

1. Sertrous

2. Lavos

3. Ecang

4. Characters from Destiny

5. Characters from Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha (Anos Voldigoad and Graham)


Tier High 3-A:

1. Characters from God of War

2. Disembodied Thought

3. Characters from Pokémon

4.

5.

Tier 3-A:

1. Yang Qi

2. Dark Schneider

3. Greeza

4. Every Man

5. Characters from Dragon Ball

Tier 3-B:

1. Zhong Yue

2. Saint-Emperor

3. Theodore Miller

4. Dark Schneider

5.

Tier 3-C:

1. Odin (Fortissimo)

2. Uriel

3. The White Queen (Blood Sign)

4. Sailor Moon (Character)

5. Characters from Saint Seiya

Tier 4-A:

1. Characters from Ergenverse

2. Captain (Granblue Fantasy)

3. Abeloth

4. Kirby (Character)

5.

Tier 4-B:

1. Characters from Ergenverse

2. Darth Sidious

3. The White Queen (Blood Sign)

4. Senshi from Sailor Moon (Universe)

5. Guy Crimson

Tier High 4-C

1. Characters from Yu-Gi-Oh!

2. Announcer (BFDI)

3. Akron

4.

5.

Tier 4-C:

1. Yama

2. Baba

3. Nono

4. Cure Felice (Speed Unequal) / Theodore Miller (Speed Equal)

5. Teridax

Tier Low 4-C:

1. Dark Samus

2. Characters from Enter the Gungeon

3. Other characters from Metroid

4. Sonic

5. HIM

Tier High 5-A:

1. Du Tian

2. Pink Panther

3. Teridax

4. Xue Ying

5.

Tier 5-A:

1. Wang Lin

2. Aisha

3. Adeleine (Speed Unequalized) / Calypso (Twisted Metal)

4. Oltura

5. Captain (Granblue Fantasy)

Tier 5-B:

1. Klein Moretti

2. Characters from Ergenverse (Gongsun Wan'er and Red Butterfly)

3. Darth Nihilus

4. Odin (Fortissimo)

5.

Tier Low 5-B:

1. Rei Ayanami / Adam (Evangelion)

2. Mummy the Resurrection

3. Fukurou Tsurubami

4. Amon

5. Ada (Boruto)

Tier 5-C:

1. Characters from Ergenverse

2. Characters from Isekai at Peace

3. Characters from Naruto (The Universe)

4. Kagami

5. Daruma

Tier High 6-A:

1. Golden King

2. Mordekaiser

3. Zhong Yue

4. Characters from Ergenverse

5. Yhwach

Tier 6-A:

1. Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (such as Diablo (Web Novel))

2. Characters from Ergenverse

3. Tendou Harima

4. Commissioner R

5. Enryu / Administrators (Tower of God)

Tier High 6-B:

1. Characters from Ergenverse

2. Life

3. Kamen Rider Cronus

4. Characters from Tower of God

5. Hades (Kid Icarus) (Speed Unequalized)

Tier 6-B:

1. Characters from Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu

2. Characters from Bleach

3. Naseem

4. Super Monkey

5. Calyrex / Megicula

Tier Low 6-B:

1. Liliana Vess

2. Mordekaiser

3. Limbo

4. Characters from Bleach

5. Characters from High School DxD (Sirzechs Lucifer mainly)

Tier High 6-C:

1. Characters from Bleach

2. Characters from isekai at peace

3. Zeref Dragneel

4.

5.

Tier 6-C:

1. Characters from isekai at peace

2. Rimuru Tempest (Light Novel)

3. Characters from Puella Magi Verse (Mami Tomoe and Alina Gray)

4. Kamen Rider Ark-Zero

5. Li Qiye

Tier High 7-A:

1. Characters from Super Smash Bros. (Speed Unequalized)

2. Han

3. Alakazam

4. Negi Springfield / The Second Christ

5. Keiji Mogami

Tier 7-A:

1. Kumoko (Speed Equal) / Lain Tendou (Speed Unequal)

2. Han Jee-Han

3. Geist Grace

4. Bai Xiaochun (Heavenspan Realm)

5. Seol Jihu

Tier 7-B:

1. Grimm=Grimm

2. Diablo (Web Novel) / Void Entity

3. Characters from Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry (Speed Unequal)

4. Noth

5. Honjou Masayuki (Web Novel)

Tier Low 7-B:

1. Strahd von Zarovich

2. Theodore Miller

3. Characters from Godspeed (Speed Equal)

4. Saten

5.

Tier High 7-C:

1. True Dark Genie

2. Han Jee-Han (Speed Equal) / Announcer (BFDI) (Speed Unequal)

3. Road Kamelot

4. Fran (with Master (Tensei Shitara Ken Deshita))

5. Tao Hua

Tier 7-C:

1. Nocturne

2. Beiloune

3. Merkava

4. Kakine Teitoku

5. LeBlanc

Tier Low 7-C:

1. Sacred Eclipse / Cat Boy

2. Rei Ogami

3. Neferpitou / Natsumi

4. Characters from League of Legends

5. Meng Chuan

Tier 8-A:

1. Sacred Eclipse

2. Tomoki Iwahashi / Shuna (Light Novel)

3. Dragaux

4. Characters from Danny Phantom

5. Fugil Arcadia

Tier 8-B:

1. Characters from Medaka Box

2. Shigara Masami

3. Janus (Nightmares of Alamir)

4. Knov

5. The Sorrow

Tier High 8-C:

1. Void Knight

2. Anri

3. Henry Stickmin

4. Chowder (Character)

5.

Tier 8-C:

1. Characters from What a Beautiful Series

2. Characters from Nuclear Throne

3. Kang the Conqueror

4. Mister Monday

5.

Tier 9-A:

1. Characters from Dungeons and Dragons

2. The Player (The Magic Circle)

3. Characters from Hellper

4. Haruna (Arpeggio of Blue Steel)

5. The Snatcher

Tier 9-B:

1. Klein Moretti

2. Hatou Manabu

3. Characters from What a Beautiful Series (Blood Tree, Wendigo, Bandersnatch & Zahhak) / Slappy (Books)

4. Aburatori

5. Toda Mikoku

Tier 9-C:

1. Protagonist-kun

2. Eztli-Tenoch

3. Tamamo (High School Inari Tamamo-chan!)

4. Scarlet Witch (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

5. The Evil Knight (Goosebumps)

Tier 10-A:

1. Characters from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

2. Sheville Warhand

3. Aaron Brand

4. Jean Grey

5.

Tier 10-B:

1. Dr. Gii

2. Johan (Sekien no Inganock)

3. Zach Noveda

4. Shinobu Oshino

5. Kousaka Haruka

Tier 10-C:

1. Cueball (xkcd)

2. Mysterious Stranger

3. SCP-3043

4. Adeleine

5. The Grool (Goosebumps)

Tier 11-A:

1. SCP-3450

2. Soul Sucking Death Worm

3. Characters from Flatland (Universe)

4. Little Circle

5. Mister Mxyzptlk (Cosmic Adventures in the 8th Grade)

Tier 11-B:

1. King of Lineland

2. Queens of Lineland

Tier 11-C:

1. Monarch of Pointland

 
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I think you grabbed an older version of the list because IIRC, Vecna was removed for being a smurf because he has access to 3.5 spells that are 1-A. Also, Cetacean Hierarchy is High 1-A so it's gone.
 
Xue Ying is no longer Low 4-C but High 4-C.

Zhong Yue is no longer High 6-C.
 
So, since ASG has been nerfed to 8-A all around, that means Zonda isn't as dominant in the verse since ASG1 Gunvolt is in the same tier and has Type 4 and 8. If there are no complaints, I will place Gunvolt against Fugil.
 
I've made the match, which can be found here. I also have added a section in the OP to link versus threads to decide certain placements.
 
So Danny Phantom Characters have now been revised to 6-C and Low 6-B. Do to this they need to be removed from High 6-C.

Characters from Danny Phantom should take 5th spot in 6-C since they speed blitz Keiji Mogami and some hax stomp him as well.

They should also take 5th spot on Low 6-B since like above, they speed blitz and hax stomp Karaka
 
Lord_JJJ said:
Kirby has beat Galacta Knight, so he should alone take the spot of the 5th strongest 4A.
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Actually, Galacta Knight's light form "Fought and at last lost against Super Team Kirby in a battle where his opponents' tears ran dry and felt near defeat", and his dark form is even stronger. Super Team Kirby=Four Kirby.

Until Fugil and Gunvolt's fight ends, I'll be putting Gunvolt in 5th 8-A for his Type 4 and 8 immorality.
 
The_Smashor said:
Actually, Galacta Knight's light form "Fought and at last lost against Super Team Kirby in a battle where his opponents' tears ran dry and felt near defeat", and his dark form is even stronger. Super Team Kirby=Four Kirby.
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There was a thread before forum move of Kirby vs Glacta Knight and Kirby has won
 
Does the matchup between Fugil and Gunvolt even need to happen? I don't think he can beat Type 4 and 8 Immortality.
 
I will actually push for Herah without Jeffery for 5th 8-A, since all her higher-tiered hax are tied directly to the pencil.
 
Can she beat type 4 and 8 immortality?

Also is the passive EE and BFR ring standard equipment? Because if it is she's probably 1st in the tier easy.

Edit: She makes this via her pencil, so no. I'll make her vs Gunvolt.

Edit 2: Wait, can standard equipment be disabled?
 
Type 4, she can beat since her EE burns you to an extent that High-Godly is normally needed to regenerate. Not sure about type 8, since that is reliant on someone or something else keeping the person around and she's never dealt with that before.

And the ring is not standard equipment, just something she can make.
 
Gunvolt resists EE. However, I think Herah beats GV eventually by killing Joule's soul with NPI anyways.

Also, I think Herah just beats 8-A outright, nothing I can see can beat High-Godly, and her EE beats the likes of Sacred Eclipse easy. Although, would High Godly regeneration be inherently smurf-like?
 
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Hmm, the attack is said to burn everything even down to the very concept. If Gunvolt can resist that then he's good, though if the spirit is directly fused to them their liable to get destroyed in the attack as well I think.
 
Herah outright solos 8-A I'm pretty sure then. Even Sacred Eclipse doesn't seem to have an answer to her best stuff. Any complaints putting her at number one, anybody?

Also, I'm putting Gunvolt above Fugil because Fugil has literally no answer to Gunvolt's immortality while Gunvolt will eventually be able to land two decisive blows with literally infinite chances.
 
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Herah outright solos 8-A I'm pretty sure then. Even Sacred Eclipse doesn't seem to have an answer to her best stuff. Any complaints putting her at number one, anybody?
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And the reason why I push for her to be at the bottom is because her big hax is a last resort for the character and since her gift is so versaltile it'd be hard to say what exactly she'd try and make since it seems more for situational use than anything else. She's a very physical fighter even with the fire she has and I don't think in-character she'd does too well against a lot of her competition.
 
If I'm not misinterpreting her profile, she has High-Godly that literally nobody in the tier has an answer to.
 
The_Smashor said:
If I'm not misinterpreting her profile, she has High-Godly that literally nobody in the tier has an answer to.
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Yeah so, here's why her High-Godly regen ain't shit, the only time it's even been put to use to that extent, her flame was nearly exhausted stuck in their red phase (the coolest temperature) even when she was raging. Not to mention that her regeneration will not work if her flames get too weak, which happens the more she regenerates. Her regen is pretty good when all she has to worry about is regenerating from fatal wounds but the overall worst the damage the more it takes out of her.

However, I will have to add this small note to what I'm saying because it's something I personally forget happens, but when she takes too much damage at once, like having her head erased from existence she can heal in an explosion of violet flames which could probably take out most of the characters on this list.

Edit: I meant most of the characters within her tier.
 
also considering Herah has Jeffery as Standard Equipment why is she even on the list? Since one of her Standard Equipment has the ability to amp her to 2-A.
 
Except this is a list for people with people no smurf stuff at all. Herah has smurf stat amping so she should not even be here in the first place. Also if we are going to put people on the list by Restricting there smurf hax then vecna can go back to the top 2-C, and 2-A since he would be the strongest restricting his 1-A hax.
 
It's not just restricting her smurf hax, it's restricting an entire key of hers which isn't a part of her base stats, hence why Jeffery has their own separate listing away from Herah. If Herah could access higher tier stuff just by herself I'd agree with you, but she specifically requires an external source which she does not always have to get higher up, so she should be just fine.
 
Just uploaded the profile Risuka Mizukura, her second key particularly would take a 10-B/9-C spot, but I'm not sure exactly how far up she'd go.

tl;dr:
  • Invulnerability by being able to stop her own time, making her immune to change.
  • EE from the space-time continuum.
  • Age Manip to death if she stabs you.
And a couple of other more niche abilities.

I'm only familiar with two characters currently sitting in those tiers, and I can't tell who would win in those fights. Anyone here knowledgeable on any auto wins/losses she'd get in those tiers?
 
Ah, been a while since I’ve been here. Well, Eiji should easily be number 1 for High 6-C solely because Bleach High 6-C can’t RC him and can’t really deal with his conceptual hax
 
Already did long ago against Ulqi and Baraggan.

Both end up being a stomp. Also, shouldn’t Zhong Yue be up there as well? Or does he have some smurf hax?
 
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