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Idk Afaik it's still considered as baseline, check the first message of this page staff said something like that.
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Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0
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It wont really matter because they still cannot interact with concept type 1 and we would still over take them
They are still baseline low 1c
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Ahem:
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Rimuru (LN) vs Arale (Low 1-C)
Since everyone is discussing about this in the Top 15 strongest thread, why not a Versus Match? Speed Equal https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Rimuru_Tempest_(Light_Novel) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Arale_Norimaki_(Dragon_Ball_Fusions) Rimuru: Arale: Saitama:
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-_- we already told yall to not make it yet you continue. I feel like we should ban vs threads at this pointAhem:
Rimuru (LN) vs Arale (Low 1-C)
Since everyone is discussing about this in the Top 15 strongest thread, why not a Versus Match? Speed Equal https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Rimuru_Tempest_(Light_Novel) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Arale_Norimaki_(Dragon_Ball_Fusions) Rimuru: Arale: Saitama:
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Uh, I never saw anyone talking about this, I mean, it's better to argue in a Versus Match than here
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It isnt necessary. Goodness sake
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I don't think it's necessary to ban threads, but maybe moderate them somehow, there have been like 5 vs threads in the last 48 hours, some against 1-A smurfs.
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AP yes, but range it is baseline, except people who can reach and affect Crack of Time then yeah it is 1 layer above baseline range
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apparently if you want to contact/fight TLQ you immediately lose?
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Trying to contact the Long Quiet's body repels the other to the point of destruction, as they also become nothing[5])
The Hero (Slay the Princess)
Born from the splitting of the Endless Cycle by the Narrator who feared the death of the universe, the Long Quiet is the God and living embodiment of the emptiness and the stasis of reality. Trapped in an endless series of repeating worlds, the Long Quiet is lead by an Echo to slay his opposite...
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Trying to contact the Long Quiet's body repels the other to the point of destruction, as they also become nothing[5])
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TLQ is a bit outdated with new update so i'll just put some scans to demonstrate some of what's new. Gonna be a CRT to add new stuff but I doubt they'll be staying at low 1-C for long anyways.
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High-Godly type 8 immortality, passive fate manip that prevents permanent incap/death, type 1 conceptual manip EE, resistances to nearly every hax on the site.
Do keep in mind all of the above is currently baseline out of that pending a proper CRT, however.
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You should bold his abilities to make them more visible.
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Is sora able to deal with 3 layers of 5D powernull conceptual type 1 and info type 2 level, 5 layers of 5D conceptual type 1 law hax, 2 layers of 5D Fate Manipulation. 1 layer mind manipulation that works on conceptual and info type 2 level. Rather can sora even interact with info type 2
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so i noticed that Eugard hasnt been added alongside Sirius in tier 7A
and aside from that Arthas shouldnt be in tier 6A because he has no key for that tier anymore
For Tier 6-A
Eugard wins against Garou because Garou has no win cons
Luffy and Kaidou simply cant do anything because of The Fiend sword and pain manipulation
Inuyasha is MH+ while Eugard is FTL so he wins because of the massive speed gap
Waddle Dee doesnt have any way to deal with the passive pain manipulation and cm type 2 spatial manipulation (and also probably gets blitzed)
Kidou En is literally hypersonic, gets blitzed
dont know which characters in Ergenverse are there, so i will stop here for now. This means Eugard would be rank 3 in tier 6A
and aside from that Arthas shouldnt be in tier 6A because he has no key for that tier anymore
For Tier 6-A
Eugard wins against Garou because Garou has no win cons
Luffy and Kaidou simply cant do anything because of The Fiend sword and pain manipulation
Inuyasha is MH+ while Eugard is FTL so he wins because of the massive speed gap
Waddle Dee doesnt have any way to deal with the passive pain manipulation and cm type 2 spatial manipulation (and also probably gets blitzed)
Kidou En is literally hypersonic, gets blitzed
dont know which characters in Ergenverse are there, so i will stop here for now. This means Eugard would be rank 3 in tier 6A
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Yumi for 5th 9-C
She just says no to all of the current spot holders attacks.
She just says no to all of the current spot holders attacks.
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Dragonite007
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I added Akagami Mana to 9-B
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You seem to have forgotten to remove the Tensura characters from 2-C and Veldanava from 2-A, can you fix that?
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Removed
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They have like 70 layers of passive death.
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lol, Eugard IS an undead though with low godly regen and he has his own passive pain manipulation that instantly incapacitates them but its a stretch to say he would win
Maybe later on...
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Uh, while it is "only" 20 layers in this key (I could argue more for certain people but that's neither here nor there atm), but it isn't death manip and more passive mind, soul and body crush, some degree of mind and soul manip, physics manip (which may be relevant for others, but not here) and power null, along with active mind and soul fuckery that is more potent, and every single cultivator is capable of withstanding obscene degrees of pain and have willpower enough to literally survive past death, so that pain manip isn't gonna do much even if he didn't passively die or somehow Wang Lin didn't look at him funny (genuinely)
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i will not be racist today!
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Something something she is a type 2 abstract and can't interact with Wei and has no resistance to law hax
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Something something she has more hax, and she has immortality reliant on plot+concept.
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Doesn't really mean much when she literally can't use said hax to do shit because it gets resisted (bar the concept stuff, which doesn't really mean much either way since she can't actually interact with him, and don't bring up concept hax when from the scans it very much is something she has to interact with the target to use, and I doubt she would use that)
Immo against just nuking the cosmology or the laws of reality with his Rule of Death and incapping that way, or the literal thousand+ haxes he has access to like just freezing her with law-based ice
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She starts with conceptual erasure dude.
Uh..Her abstraction is based on archetypical metaphysical aspects, he isn't touching her when all of his haxes are basically type 2.
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Give scans (that are actually translated), and I very much doubt that she does considering she is a comic character
1)Yeah, but she is still a type 2 abstract, that doesn't exactly help here beyond making her extra immortal
2)Yeah uh, his Law hax is equivalent to type 1 concepts, I've already had this exact same talk with you before, and to hammer in the point, it is already more fundamental than plot considering how the Rule of Space-Time can affect the Main Story
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It is her goddamn job, she uses her scythe to kill people, which has baked conceptual erasure.
1). You know that means Wei can't kill her, because she will just endlessly keep respawning, until she tags him with conceptual stuff???
2). Proof?
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Yeah, a scythe, against someone she can't interact with type 5 immo
Yeah, can't kill is different from incapping, given he can just destroy the multiverse or the rules governing space-time and leave her in a void of nothing she can't do anything, or once more, freeze her in beyond AZ ice, hit her with time stop, etc etc
Rules already go against reason and axioms
Mythical Beings (who are Rules), can easily leave the story and affect it (the river of time is the same as the main story), and exist outside it and the rest of the cosmology, being entirely unaffected by the laws of physics and the laws of other worlds that are wildly different, remaining the same throughout
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Uh...I don't know how that qualifies for Type 1, or how the actual **** you can AZ an abstraction with CM+Plot based immortality. Also she has 2-A range. Also something tells me that trying to incap/kill someone by destroying the laws of the universe, when you already trascend the laws of the universe is kinda...Eh.
Yeah, fair....But wait. It is literally stated ad verbum that their fate is still bound by the river of time.
That doesn't imply trascendence.
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That isn't for type 1, im saying the type 2 abstract (which doesn't give you any type of non-physicality by itself mind you, and even if it did, Mythical Beings can affect other mythical beings with their rules), is going to get frozen and unable to do shit that way, cause once more she is not abstract, immortality only helps you against dying, the usage of ice here traps you
With Multilocation, and which still won't help if he just undermines reality
1) It's supporting evidence
2) Look me dead in the eyes and tell me an axiom isn't type 1 equivalent, and then be wrong because axioms by definition are that
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Multilocation and the ice quite literally dying if it touches the scythe say no.
I don't think you know what an axiom is,
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I do, it is something that isn't even considered to be true or false because it acts as the basic laws underlying any system that invokes or involves them
They are by definition type 1
Considering said Ice is functioning based on rules in the first place, its CM 1 against Laws, so
And even if that doesn't work, he just uses his rule of death and/or nukes reality, time stops, etc
