Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0

[Shadowslash125]

Also Kuuga should be above Shiro due to this

Ok, so apparently Kuuga beats these characters from the 6-C list in speed equal atm.
-Sonic
-ALK
-Shiro

Explanation, Sonic and Shiro doesn't resist Kuuga's OA and Fear Manip as well as his Plasma matter ignition and for ALK, we've had the discussion and seem to have agreed that he'll beat ALK in speed equal.

Then

A matchup for Obito will be done soon due to the trickiness of the battle itself.

As for Obito, Kuuga will be under him due to being stomped

As for Daphne, her madness manip still seems to be on her profile despite a crt with Celestial_Pegasus and Dereck agreeing to this. For the moment, we are unsure whether to just put her in the list of opponents Kuuga can beat or make a thread for this matchup.

This should also be the consensus as to why Daphne should be lower than Obito too.

 

[deonment]

In 7-A:

How could Kumoko deal with the Apostle from Arifureta ?

Kumoko dips into a different dimension and camps from there, the evils eyes also just screw them over, and no, travelling into her god zone will not help because kumoko can either just shut that shit down, or they get power nulled into the floor because god zones are pure bullshit for anyone who isn't a god

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Kumoko dips into a different dimension and camps from there

This will be a problem for them, but it wil end up in a tie if they can't hurt each other.

the evils eyes also just screw them over

I think they could resist some of them

travelling into her god zone will not help because kumoko can either just shut that shit down, or they get power nulled into the floor because god zones are pure bullshit for anyone who isn't a god

From the descrpition it seems just a mixture of law and space manipulation, they resist those hax.


Maybe put them in the same spot

 

[DavidTPPM]

Oh BTW Hagoromo is no longer 5-C so he should be removed from there

 

[deonment]

I think they could resist some of them

Maybe for her previous key, but for her current one, but I don't see an answer to extinction, serenity, panic, static or gluttony, each of which will absolutely shut them down on their own, let alone in combination or when she and her exponentially growing clone army use them and the rest of her shit all at once

From the descrpition it seems just a mixture of law and space manipulation, they resist those hax.

The issue here is not the law manip (that is more physics manip in actuality), its the fact that being inside a god zone directly stops all powers from being projected outwards, and is more potent than other power nulls in verse so that resistance isn't doing much, and her space manip she mainly uses for support or defensive purposes, and she won't be pushing her god zone outwards which is the only space manip aspect of it

This will be a problem for them, but it wil end up in a tie if they can't hurt each other.

Yeah but Kumoko can easily attack from there and I can see a bunch of ways for them to incap or kill
Extinction just kills on the spot
Panic stops them from doing anything
Serenity and Panic each incap
While Gulttony won't let her actually remove their ability to do stuff, giving Kumoko free mana is never a good idea, and she can just cancel any spells they try to cast using it
She can send them to a whole ass different planet
She can use all of the system magic still, so abyssal magic is still on the table and will just outright kill them
Etc, etc

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Maybe for her previous key, but for her current one, but I don't see an answer to extinction, serenity, panic, static or gluttony,

They don't have a soul

The issue here is not the law manip (that is more physics manip in actuality), its the fact that being inside a god zone directly stops all powers from being projected outwards, and is more potent than other power nulls in verse so that resistance isn't doing much

So it's somekind of energy dispersion or something like this ?

Limited Power Nullification (Characters at the level of the Liberators have show[30] the ability to partially resist effects like the one from Reisen labyrinth which disperse magic power, though the efficiency of magic that is manifested externally is greatly reduced, making the cost of low level magic comparable to high grade magic. They have also show to resist sealing stone effects[30] which is resistant to magic, they could even affect a material that is a hundred more times resistant to magic than sealstone[31])

check their profile

While Gulttony won't let her actually remove their ability to do stuff, giving Kumoko free mana is never a good idea, and she can just cancel any spells they try to cast using it

Won't make a difference because of their mana source is unlimited.

She can send them to a whole ass different planet

They resist space magic which could do this :

Spatial Manipulation (Can rupture,[12] warp,[13] slide,[14] destroy space[11] and more

and she can do the same

Portal Creation and Teleportation (Even Eri who don't have all the powers of a Apostle can open a portal similar to the one made by Ehit[21] which leaded to the Sanctuary, which is the group of dimensions that Ehit created and in which all his forces like monsters and Apostles are stored. They also have show to appear out of thin air[12] from the Sanctuary)

She can use all of the system magic still, so abyssal magic is still on the table and will just outright kill them

System magic=law manipulation

Abyssal magic ?

 

[Shadowslash125]

Also Kuuga should be above Shiro due to this


Then

As for Obito, Kuuga will be under him due to being stomped

This should also be the consensus as to why Daphne should be lower than Obito too.

Also based on this Kuuga should be above Daphne but below Obito too.
The 6-C list should be like this:

6. Obito Uchiha

7. Kamen Rider Kuuga

8. Daphne

9. Shiro (Deadman Wonderland)

10. Ancient Lich King

11. Sonic the Hedgehog

 

[deonment]

They don't have a soul

Won't make a difference because of their mana source is unlimited.

None of them affect the soul
Panic and Serenity are just fear and empath hax
Extinction is matter manip, deconstruction
Static is paralysis that also stops the target from thinking
Gulttony breaks down and then absorbs any magic, including magic already cast or that is being cast (which is why I bring it up cause it will stop them from casting any magic)
Grudge drains the health, stamina, and mana of the target permanently and adds them to her own reserves

So it's somekind of energy dispersion or something like this ?
check their profile

I have, however, the negation of a god zone is more potent than the other types of negation within the verse, including Dragon Barriers, Gluttony, Anti-Magic Feilds, and her own Evil Eye of Gluttony

They resist space magic which could do this :

Once again, her own space magic isn't offensive so she won't be doing that type of stuff with her space magic, what she would be doing is either creating a portal or just straight up teleporting them to another planet or one of her various pocket dimensions if needs be, or she can use her threads which are part pocket dimension and as such are indestructible unless you can destroy space or dimensions

and she can do the same

Kumoko can negate that stuff easily, her own dimensional magecraft is more potent than Kuro's who as a God, and a decently old one at that, has space magecraft far more potent than any sort of magecraft in the system, with people in the system being able to negate or interrupt uses of spatial magic, and Kumoko being able to outright negate or disrupt attempts Kuro made to try and teleport, let alone a portal, she could literally just change the coordinates of the magic to instead drop them into the core of a star

System magic=law manipulation

Abyssal magic ?

No?
System magic is just magic that is found within, and supported by, the system within the world Kumoko found herself in, after she became a god she lost a bunch of it, but can replicate a good deal of her old magic with magecraft now

Abyssal magic is advanced darkness magic that completely destroys the target in body, mind and soul, but she is somewhat adverse to using it and is more likely to just use her entire armada of evil eyes to delete the apostle while staying safe in a pocket dimension instead