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Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0

Also Kuuga should be above Shiro due to this
Ok, so apparently Kuuga beats these characters from the 6-C list in speed equal atm.
-Sonic
-ALK
-Shiro
Explanation, Sonic and Shiro doesn't resist Kuuga's OA and Fear Manip as well as his Plasma matter ignition and for ALK, we've had the discussion and seem to have agreed that he'll beat ALK in speed equal.
Then
A matchup for Obito will be done soon due to the trickiness of the battle itself.
As for Obito, Kuuga will be under him due to being stomped
As for Daphne, her madness manip still seems to be on her profile despite a crt with Celestial_Pegasus and Dereck agreeing to this. For the moment, we are unsure whether to just put her in the list of opponents Kuuga can beat or make a thread for this matchup.
This should also be the consensus as to why Daphne should be lower than Obito too.
 
In 7-A:

How could Kumoko deal with the Apostle from Arifureta ?
Kumoko dips into a different dimension and camps from there, the evils eyes also just screw them over, and no, travelling into her god zone will not help because kumoko can either just shut that shit down, or they get power nulled into the floor because god zones are pure bullshit for anyone who isn't a god
 
Kumoko dips into a different dimension and camps from there
This will be a problem for them, but it wil end up in a tie if they can't hurt each other.
the evils eyes also just screw them over
I think they could resist some of them
travelling into her god zone will not help because kumoko can either just shut that shit down, or they get power nulled into the floor because god zones are pure bullshit for anyone who isn't a god
From the descrpition it seems just a mixture of law and space manipulation, they resist those hax.


Maybe put them in the same spot
 
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I think they could resist some of them
Maybe for her previous key, but for her current one, but I don't see an answer to extinction, serenity, panic, static or gluttony, each of which will absolutely shut them down on their own, let alone in combination or when she and her exponentially growing clone army use them and the rest of her shit all at once
From the descrpition it seems just a mixture of law and space manipulation, they resist those hax.
The issue here is not the law manip (that is more physics manip in actuality), its the fact that being inside a god zone directly stops all powers from being projected outwards, and is more potent than other power nulls in verse so that resistance isn't doing much, and her space manip she mainly uses for support or defensive purposes, and she won't be pushing her god zone outwards which is the only space manip aspect of it
This will be a problem for them, but it wil end up in a tie if they can't hurt each other.
Yeah but Kumoko can easily attack from there and I can see a bunch of ways for them to incap or kill
Extinction just kills on the spot
Panic stops them from doing anything
Serenity and Panic each incap
While Gulttony won't let her actually remove their ability to do stuff, giving Kumoko free mana is never a good idea, and she can just cancel any spells they try to cast using it
She can send them to a whole ass different planet
She can use all of the system magic still, so abyssal magic is still on the table and will just outright kill them
Etc, etc
 
Maybe for her previous key, but for her current one, but I don't see an answer to extinction, serenity, panic, static or gluttony,
They don't have a soul
The issue here is not the law manip (that is more physics manip in actuality), its the fact that being inside a god zone directly stops all powers from being projected outwards, and is more potent than other power nulls in verse so that resistance isn't doing much
So it's somekind of energy dispersion or something like this ?
Limited Power Nullification (Characters at the level of the Liberators have show[30] the ability to partially resist effects like the one from Reisen labyrinth which disperse magic power, though the efficiency of magic that is manifested externally is greatly reduced, making the cost of low level magic comparable to high grade magic. They have also show to resist sealing stone effects[30] which is resistant to magic, they could even affect a material that is a hundred more times resistant to magic than sealstone[31])
check their profile
While Gulttony won't let her actually remove their ability to do stuff, giving Kumoko free mana is never a good idea, and she can just cancel any spells they try to cast using it
Won't make a difference because of their mana source is unlimited.
She can send them to a whole ass different planet
They resist space magic which could do this :
and she can do the same
Portal Creation and Teleportation (Even Eri who don't have all the powers of a Apostle can open a portal similar to the one made by Ehit[21] which leaded to the Sanctuary, which is the group of dimensions that Ehit created and in which all his forces like monsters and Apostles are stored. They also have show to appear out of thin air[12] from the Sanctuary)
She can use all of the system magic still, so abyssal magic is still on the table and will just outright kill them
System magic=law manipulation

Abyssal magic ?
 
They don't have a soul
Won't make a difference because of their mana source is unlimited.
None of them affect the soul
Panic and Serenity are just fear and empath hax
Extinction is matter manip, deconstruction
Static is paralysis that also stops the target from thinking
Gulttony breaks down and then absorbs any magic, including magic already cast or that is being cast (which is why I bring it up cause it will stop them from casting any magic)
Grudge drains the health, stamina, and mana of the target permanently and adds them to her own reserves
So it's somekind of energy dispersion or something like this ?
check their profile
I have, however, the negation of a god zone is more potent than the other types of negation within the verse, including Dragon Barriers, Gluttony, Anti-Magic Feilds, and her own Evil Eye of Gluttony
They resist space magic which could do this :
Once again, her own space magic isn't offensive so she won't be doing that type of stuff with her space magic, what she would be doing is either creating a portal or just straight up teleporting them to another planet or one of her various pocket dimensions if needs be, or she can use her threads which are part pocket dimension and as such are indestructible unless you can destroy space or dimensions
and she can do the same
Kumoko can negate that stuff easily, her own dimensional magecraft is more potent than Kuro's who as a God, and a decently old one at that, has space magecraft far more potent than any sort of magecraft in the system, with people in the system being able to negate or interrupt uses of spatial magic, and Kumoko being able to outright negate or disrupt attempts Kuro made to try and teleport, let alone a portal, she could literally just change the coordinates of the magic to instead drop them into the core of a star
System magic=law manipulation

Abyssal magic ?
No?
System magic is just magic that is found within, and supported by, the system within the world Kumoko found herself in, after she became a god she lost a bunch of it, but can replicate a good deal of her old magic with magecraft now

Abyssal magic is advanced darkness magic that completely destroys the target in body, mind and soul, but she is somewhat adverse to using it and is more likely to just use her entire armada of evil eyes to delete the apostle while staying safe in a pocket dimension instead
 
None of them affect the soul
Panic and Serenity are just fear and empath hax
Extinction is matter manip, deconstruction
Static is paralysis that also stops the target from thinking
Gulttony breaks down and then absorbs any magic, including magic already cast or that is being cast (which is why I bring it up cause it will stop them from casting any magic)
Grudge drains the health, stamina, and mana of the target permanently and adds them to her own reserves

I have, however, the negation of a god zone is more potent than the other types of negation within the verse, including Dragon Barriers, Gluttony, Anti-Magic Feilds, and her own Evil Eye of Gluttony

Once again, her own space magic isn't offensive so she won't be doing that type of stuff with her space magic, what she would be doing is either creating a portal or just straight up teleporting them to another planet or one of her various pocket dimensions if needs be, or she can use her threads which are part pocket dimension and as such are indestructible unless you can destroy space or dimensions

Kumoko can negate that stuff easily, her own dimensional magecraft is more potent than Kuro's who as a God, and a decently old one at that, has space magecraft far more potent than any sort of magecraft in the system, with people in the system being able to negate or interrupt uses of spatial magic, and Kumoko being able to outright negate or disrupt attempts Kuro made to try and teleport, let alone a portal, she could literally just change the coordinates of the magic to instead drop them into the core of a star

No?
System magic is just magic that is found within, and supported by, the system within the world Kumoko found herself in, after she became a god she lost a bunch of it, but can replicate a good deal of her old magic with magecraft now

Abyssal magic is advanced darkness magic that completely destroys the target in body, mind and soul, but she is somewhat adverse to using it and is more likely to just use her entire armada of evil eyes to delete the apostle while staying safe in a pocket dimension instead
Just made a match
 
The radiance has been upgraded from 9-B to 9-A btw.
For 9A I'm not sure how high can it go, but I think it MIGHT be tied with Obsidian for number 3? They can't interact with each other (NEP vs AE) so the fight would be a a draw
 
Ji Ning as in Three Realms right? If that's him (which is the only 6-C Ji Ning I'm seeing), he's only about hundred of meters. While Kuuga's passive one should be planetary for his strongest 6-C key (Ultimate)
**** no on that aura being planetary, you need proof for that, just because one thing you have has planetary range doesn't mean everything you have has that range
 
**** no on that aura being planetary, you need proof for that, just because one thing you have has planetary range doesn't mean everything you have has that range
While it might not really be planetary, Kuuga's passive OA and fear hax still has a very high range as seen when Kuuga himself was affected from a very far range.
Even then, SBA would have the two be apart by 4km max, which is in range for the passive to work.
 
No. 12 Low 7-C should be updated from Momo Yozakura to:

Characters from Mission: Yozakura Family (Momo Yozakura, Shinzo Yozakura, Kyoichiro Yozakura)

Shinzo has Low-High regeneration negation and Dura neg. As well as sleep manip bullets he always uses as a starting move with his marksmanship skills.

Kyoichiro has Deconstruction, a low 7-B shield and microscopic attacks that can’t be seen with the human eye. So I’d say they both belong there.

Then for Low 1-A. Since that tier is so empty.
Characters from Honkai (Impact 3rd and Star Rail)
Low 1-A hax potency for the high tiers of HI3 (everyone in that verse rated 1-B, possibly Low 1-A) and for most HSR characters
Aeons of HSR have conceptual high godly regen and HDE and type 9 immortality. Kiana Kaslana has HDE and type 9 immortality.
So they should be ok to take a free spot
 
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That aint anywhere near hundreds of meters let alone 4km
N-Daguva-Zeba can teleport very far and project his voice to distant places. In the scan, I've listed now (the one with the translation), Daguva's OA+fear hax combo can work from afar, because it was able to affect Pegasus Form Kuuga.
Base Mighty Kuuga has tens of times the super senses of a human, a visual acuity of several dozens times that of a human, and a hearing hundreds of times better than a human's. Pegasus Form Kuuga (the green one in the video) has an 86x perception amp, which spans kilometers, allowing him to see, track and tag invisible beings from kilometers away among other things with such a high amp. The reason why I say the fear+OA can work from afar is because it affected Pegasus Kuuga from afar.
Also, why did I say N-Daguva-Zeba instead of ultimate Kuuga? It's because they share the same powerset.

If this answer doesn't satisfy you, I'd rather you wait for @ZeedKZ since he's way more knowledgeable on Kuuga than I am (Zeed if I butchered some stuff, I'm so sorry)
 
The radiance has been upgraded from 9-B to 9-A btw.
For 9A I'm not sure how high can it go, but I think it MIGHT be tied with Obsidian for number 3? They can't interact with each other (NEP vs AE) so the fight would be a a draw
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No. 12 Low 7-C should be updated from Momo Yozakura to:

Characters from Mission: Yozakura Family (Momo Yozakura, Shinzo Yozakura, Kyoichiro Yozakura)

Shinzo has Low-High regeneration negation and Dura neg. As well as sleep manip bullets he always uses as a starting move with his marksmanship skills.

Kyoichiro has Deconstruction, a low 7-B shield and microscopic attacks that can’t be seen with the human eye. So I’d say they both belong there.

Then for Low 1-A. Since that tier is so empty.
Characters from Honkai (Impact 3rd and Star Rail)
Low 1-A hax potency for the high tiers of HI3 (everyone in that verse rated 1-B, possibly Low 1-A) and for most HSR characters
Aeons of HSR have conceptual high godly regen and HDE and type 9 immortality. Kiana Kaslana has HDE and type 9 immortality.
So they should be ok to take a free spot
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N-Daguva-Zeba can teleport very far and project his voice to distant places. In the scan, I've listed now (the one with the translation), Daguva's OA+fear hax combo can work from afar, because it was able to affect Pegasus Form Kuuga.
Base Mighty Kuuga has tens of times the super senses of a human, a visual acuity of several dozens times that of a human, and a hearing hundreds of times better than a human's. Pegasus Form Kuuga (the green one in the video) has an 86x perception amp, which spans kilometers, allowing him to see, track and tag invisible beings from kilometers away among other things with such a high amp. The reason why I say the fear+OA can work from afar is because it affected Pegasus Kuuga from afar.
Also, why did I say N-Daguva-Zeba instead of ultimate Kuuga? It's because they share the same powerset.

If this answer doesn't satisfy you, I'd rather you wait for @ZeedKZ since he's way more knowledgeable on Kuuga than I am (Zeed if I butchered some stuff, I'm so sorry)
Different abilities have different ranges, they don't all scale around and that's specially true for auras and passives as most series don't ever depict passives actually affecting kilometers around their users 24/7.
 
Different abilities have different ranges, they don't all scale around and that's specially true for auras and passives as most series don't ever depict passives actually affecting kilometers around their users 24/7.
I guess that's fair. However I do want to ask if Ji Ning's soul destruction hax can reach 4kms? Since his profile states him to only have hundreds of meters while Kuuga's planetary range comes handy via him raising his hand to convert the matter around and in the opponent themselves in a atomic level to plasma and burn them from the inside to the outside.

In the meantime, I still can't even get Kuuga into the list at the moment.
 
Different abilities have different ranges, they don't all scale around and that's specially true for auras and passives as most series don't ever depict passives actually affecting kilometers around their users 24/7.
In the scan itself, the aura was already making Kuuga unnerved despite Daguva (the guy who have the same aura as Kuuga) doesn't even seem to be in the same general vicinity, after he transformed into Pegasus form, which boost his perceptions of everything to at least 2 kilometer range, and fully sensing Daguva does he get the full effect of his aura.

So while it might not be kilometer long, it certainly covers a lot more range if we took Pegasus perception amps into consideration.
 
Every ability from Ultimate Kuuga has 5-B range, the whole deal about that form is causing the Ultimate Darkness throughout the entire world and destroy it.
 
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