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Top 10 strongest non smurfs.

Firephoenixearl said:
The operator with warframes i mean. Well he just has a ton of things as you can see. And his warframes are mindless. So you'd need the range to affect the operator and know about him to end the fight. Nihilus can do that cus precog can apparently give him that knowledge and galactic range means he can get the operator a solar system away and mind hax him turning the fight into inconc (who ever shoots first).
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considering that nocturne can crush nihilus I just dont think it makes sense for him to be below him. I could try making an argument for nocturne against the operator but I cant really be bothered.
 
Dispel Bound says nope.

I am pretty sure Meth's level of mindhax destroys Dark's barrier.

Pretty sure it doesnt.
 
PaChi2 said:
Dispel Bound is not NLF.
To bypass Dispel Bound you need: power greater than the user and attacks faster than what the user can regen.

Meth is 5-B. He is weaker tham Darshe. He cant break Dispel Bound.
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Dispel Bound are "innumerable forcefields, each protecting Dark Schneider from a certain form of attack, including mental attacks, instant victory effects, and reality warping."

I think it's a pretty big NLF to say they can reisist Meth's level of mindhax.
 
Ok then if there are problems with iihiko being number 1 i will remove him atm. I will put him back up when everything is solved. That fine?

Although i don't see why that's the case
 
Are you ignoring what I just said?

You have to break Dispel Bound through sheer power.
 
PaChi2 said:
Dispel bound scales to AP. Not hax.
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They are sustained via AP, but they protect from hax.

And if the level of the hax is far beyond what they have shown to protect Dark from, then how wouldn't that be a NLF?
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Ok then if there are problems with iihiko being number 1 i will remove him atm. I will put him back up when everything is solved. That fine?
Although i don't see why that's the case
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Mainly lihiko is really prone to NLF if I gonna be honest here.
 
"Dispel Bound: The ultimate defensive ability, made up of layer after layer of innumerable forcefields, each protecting Dark Schneider from a certain form of attack, including mental attacks, instant victory effects, and reality warping. While powerful, these forcefields can be easily destroyed by those significantly stronger than Darsh, and can be torn away by those on his level, but they regenerate quickly."

You have to be stronger than Darsh.

AP.
 
I have to disagree pachi, I dont think the barriers would neg above what they have been show too. Unless these are some weird metphiscal barriers. Also do they defend from power nullification?
 
PaChi2 said:
Are you ignoring what I just said?
You have to break Dispel Bound through sheer power.
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Breaking something and bypassing it are two different things.

Meth's level of mindhax should bypass Dark's mental-resistance barrier because it is so much stronger than what Dark's barrier has been shown to protect against.
 
Its no use discussing it.

Meth cant bypass "Instant Victory" protection, though.

(Deepthought)
 
Ogbunabali said:
Why is the Operator there? Pretty sure everyone on that list solos the verse.
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No. Only nihilus inconced operator, but since that was only cus of precog, and nihilus loses to noc, i put him below cus it was more of a case by case basis, couldn't have it make sense any other way cus A>B>C gets weird with lists.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Who exactly though. I should likely specify it's the operator with warframes.
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Iihko do I really need to reason with this? At most maybe you can argue for incon because he can't fly.

Yhwach easy solo, Almighty plus the new stuff from the novels.

Meth easy solo. Abstract, Mid Godly, plus has a lot more going for him than mindhax.

Don't now the Warpriest so I can't comment on that. But a quick look at his profile makes me think he should no diff.

Maybe Nocturne can't solo not sure.

Nihilus passivly eats planets.

Jessica, do I really need to exlpain why?
 
Rocker1189 said:
Nocturne can do what nihilus can do, but using his speed also his mind and soul hax are above nihilus.
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Doubtful. But if he has the range/go in space then yeah he should solo.
 
Ogbunabali said:
Doubtful. But if he has the range/go in space then yeah he should solo.
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eternum nocturnes soul and mind hax are on the level of all creatures nightmares in runeterra in the past, present and future.

That is massively beyond planetary.
 
@Og It's funny how you mentioned why those i placed ABOVE HIM solo...ugh.

Nihilus inconced Limbo IIRC (it was just a fight of who shoots first), who is literally a MUCH weaker version of the operator with warframes. Noc doesn't have anything to reach the operator before a warframe does something. Jessica only erases what she doesn't believe, it wouldn't actually affect the operator in this case, only the warframes.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
@Og It's funny how you mentioned why those i placed ABOVE HIM solo...ugh.
Nihilus inconced Limbo IIRC (it was just a fight of who shoots first), who is literally a MUCH weaker version of the operator with warframes. Noc doesn't have anything to reach the operator before a warframe does something. Jessica only erases what she doesn't believe, it wouldn't actually affect the operator in this case, only the warframes.
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what can a warframe do to him exactly?
 
Nihilus and Limbo literally never fought.

Don't know Noc, not familiar with LoL lore.

"I don't carry a gun, or any other kind of weapo. I've never felt the need. And weapons wouldn't do any good against Jessica Sorrow anyway. Nothing could touch her any more. Something happened to her, long ago, and she gave up her humanity to become the Unbeliever. Now she doesn't believe in anything. And because she doesn't believe with such utter certainty, all the world and everything in it are nothing to her. None of it can affect her in the least. She can go anywhere, and do anything, and she does. She can do terrible, distressing things, and she does, and nothing touches her. She has no conscience and no morality, no pity and no restraint. The material world is like paper to her, and she rips it apart as she walks through it.

It's not restricted to Warframes.
 
Veloxt1r0kore said:
@Pachi

There is DS vs Meth and it ended stomp on Meth favor, give up arguing it.
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I wish I could answer as rudely as I'd like to. But I'd likely get reported. So... Not this time.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
The Operator. None of the hax in there can actually work on Noc? Hardly. If worst comes to worst, limbo could just BFR him. Turning him into info would also work.
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BFR wont work aginst eternum, he has dimensional travel, turning nightmares into info? how does that work.

Noc also passively nulls most fo the abilities I see there.
 
Ogbunabali said:
Don't know Noc, not familiar with LoL lore.
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Well, normal Noc hax is essentially every creature's nightmares on the planet. Eternum Noc is every creature's nightmares in the planet's past, present and futures.
 
I love how "to 10 strongest" is basically "top 10 passive abilities" with some characters Fire likes just for the lolz.
 
Rocker1189 said:
Noc also passively nulls most fo the abilities I see there.
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A lot of them come from weapons can he null those? And the range is still a problem, so hardly.

@Og yes but she has never interacted with hax according to MrKing. So she would just insta EE the warframes, but them haxing in stealth would still work.
 
passive>thought>active

dont know whether there is a difference between passie and automatic and which one is faster.
 
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