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Top 10 strongest non smurfs.

Its. Not. A. Smurf. Ability

The hell. Exdeath sends people to the Void, its just that the void is 2-A in size. Its not different to trapping people in a pocket dimension.

Is Kaguya a smurf now?
 
Rocker1189 said:
as in kaguya otsutsuki? her dimensions are at most(if you take the game and anime) Low 2-C in size.
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Okay, let me use a better example.

Are Bleach characters or Dragon Ball characters that can open portals to other dimensions smurfs now? Because that's what Exdeath does.
 
Ionliosite said:
Can Iihiko even attack Meth? He is a type 1 abstract.
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If meth attacks Iihiko and gets his attack broken it will hurt Meth. Can he die from that? If no it would be inconc as neither can kill the other. But meth can only take damage while there is literally nothing he can do to Iihiko to damage him.
 
Rocker1189 said:
firephoenix btw pretty sure noc's mind hax is above nihilus.

Like waay above.
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^Unless Noct got downgraded to Planetary or something, Noct's is much better

Also he blitzes
 
PaChi2 said:
Okay, let me use a better example.

Are Bleach characters or Dragon Ball characters that can open portals to other dimensions smurfs now? Because that's what Exdeath does.
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I was not disagreeing with you lol.
 
Yeah, yeah. Sorry if it made you think I was arguing against you.

I just wanted to give another example.
 
Schnee One said:
Rocker1189 said:
firephoenix btw pretty sure noc's mind hax is above nihilus.

Like waay above.
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^Unless Noct got downgraded to Planetary or something, Noct's is much better
Also he blitzes
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Nihilus is in the trillions IIRC. I think Noct has better potency, but noct loses to the operator in speed equal i think, cus he lacks Nihilus' precog.
 
Rocker1189 said:
@firephoenix you read my argument above? nocturne has better mind hax than darth nihilus.
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Nihilus still has soul hax, precog and non corporeality. So i feel like he's better overall. That's why.
 
Oudo's weighted words works by using electricity to manipulate motor functions it's not the actual words
 
PaChi2 said:
I mean, Fire, you shouldnt have put Iihiko the top 1.
He is not top 1 by any means.
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Who then?

Also again no 2-A BFR here. As i said might as well say Ahzek solos the list via 1-B BFR.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Nihilus still has soul hax, precog and non corporeality. So i feel like he's better overall. That's why.
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eternum nocturne has time travel, possession, space-time manipulation and passive power nullification.
 
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He recognizes words or communication, still noped Oudo's weighted words.

So... Tell me... Why isnt Exdeath in here? And dont start with "lol multiversal BFR is smurf". Because its not.
 
Pachi i told you like 3 times already. I will count it as smurf for this because there are characters who can open portals to 1-B realms, im obviously not gonna include them. BFR-ing 3D characters across a 5D construct is obviously not ok for a clean non smurf list.
 
I dont see why he is a problem could you fill me in becuase I dont want to go though all that text..

Oh and nocturne has soul hax of the same level as his mind hax. so that is also above nihilus. He is also intangible.
 
Rocker1189 said:
I dont see why he is a problem could you fill me in becuase I dont want to go though all that text..
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The operator with warframes i mean. Well he just has a ton of things as you can see. And his warframes are mindless. So you'd need the range to affect the operator and know about him to end the fight. Nihilus can do that cus precog can apparently give him that knowledge and galactic range means he can get the operator a solar system away and mind hax him turning the fight into inconc (who ever shoots first).
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Pachi i told you like 3 times already. I will count it as smurf for this because there are characters who can open portals to 1-B realms, im obviously not gonna include them. BFR-ing 3D characters across a 5D construct is obviously not ok for a clean non smurf list.
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I disagree. But ok. This is your list, with your criteria. The moment you put Iihiko top 1 you lost all credibility, though.
 
Dispel Bound is not NLF.

To bypass Dispel Bound you need: power greater than the user and attacks faster than what the user can regen.

Meth is 5-B. He is weaker tham Darshe. He cant break Dispel Bound.
 
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