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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued (again)

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same rules as last thread.


Tier 1-A:

1. The Goddess of The Manifold

2. Characters from Megami Tensei

3.

4.

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier Low 1-A:

1. Characters from Marvel Comics (Speed Unequalized) / Characters from A Wild Last Boss Appeared (Speed Equalized)

2.

3.

4.

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier High 1-B:

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier 1-B:

1. Gods (Magi)

2. Characters from Instant Death (Yogiri, UEG, and Touichirou)

3. The Dreaming Ones

4. Characters from Transformers

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier High 1-C:

1. Characters from Doctor Who (such as The Six-Fold God) /Mother Eater

2. Characters from Gurren Lagann (Verse)

3. Characters from To Aru Majutsu No Index (High Priest mainly)

4. Sun Wukong

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier 1-C:

1. Characters from DMC

2. Characters from Nasuverse

3. Characters from Kamen Rider

4.

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier Low 1-C:

1. Characters from Nasuverse

2. Anos

3. Xue Ying

4. Arceus (Speed Equal) / Makina (Speed Equal) / Knives (Speed Unequal)

5. Characters from Marvel Comics

6. Nyanlathotep

7. yang qi

8. Deadline

9. Characters from Wizard101

10.

Tier 2-A:

1. Characters from Dragon Talisman (Gu Ghensha, ChenQi, Yang Qi)

2. Characters from Puella Magi Verse

3. Characters from Final Fantasy

4. Lavos

5. Shulk

6. Characters from Pokémon

7. Characters from Saint Seiya (Chronos, Zeus, Typhon, Uranus, Cronos, Tartarus and Gaia)

8. Characters from Dragon Ball Heroes

9. Maxwell

10. Wei Huo

Tier 2-B:

1. Characters from Pokémon

2. Shulk

3. Rimuru Tempest

4. Characters from Tokyo Babel

5. Characters from Coiling Dragon

6. Ainchase Ishmael (Herrscher Path) / Characters from Granblue Fantasy (Akasha and Inchoate World)

7. Characters from Sonic the Hedgehog (The End, Solaris (Game) and Sonic the Hedgehog (Modern)) / Characters from EarthBound

8. Characters from instant death (Vahanato and Celestial Foundation Eater)

9. TimeKeeper Cookie

10. Chara

Tier 2-C:

1. Characters from Castlevania

2. Orcus and Demogorgon

3. The Nameless

4. Exdeath

5. Characters from Destiny

6. Kamen Rider Saber

7. Kratos

8. Characters from Saint Seiya (Hades, Athena and Poseidon)

9. Characters from Yu-Gi-Oh! (Mainly Yubel but including The Egyptian Gods)

10. Characters from EarthBound (Ness and Giygas)

Tier Low 2-C:

1. Sertrous

2. Lavos

3. Characters from Destiny

4. VELDORA

5. Ecang

6. Nier (Granblue Fantasy)

7. Medea Pideth Machina (Web Novel)

8. Characters from Saint Seiya (Athena, Poseidon, and Eris)

9. White Face

10. Prime Soul King

Tier High 3-A:

1. Greeza

2. Disembodied Thought

3. Characters from Pokémon (Speed Equal) / Characters from W.I.T.C.H. (Sixtar and Dark Mother) (Speed Unequal)

4. Godcat

5. Kurzgesagt Narrator

6. Kagari (Moon)

7. Monica Pinkston

8. The Protagonist (Cruelty Squad)

9. Bolt Crank

10. Felis Umbra

Tier 3-A:

1. Chen Qi (Dragon Talisman)

2. Satan (Bastard!!)

3. Greeza

4. Every Man

5. Najimi Ajimu

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier 3-B:

1. Zhong Yue

2. Saint-Emperor

3. Ji Ning

4.

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier 3-C:

1. Characters from Bastard!!

2. Odin (Fortissimo)

3. The White Queen (Blood Sign)

4. Sailor Moon (Character)

5. Characters from Saint Seiya

6. Characters from Pacheco Cara Floja (Verse)

7. Void Termina

8. Characters from Pokemon (Yveltal, Victini and Mewtwo)

9.

10.

Tier 4-A:

1. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)

2. Li Qiye

3. Orloff

4. Characters from Epic Battle Fantasy (Mainly Godcat and Akron)

5. Announcer (Battle for Dream island)

6. Ji Ning

7. Evil Computer Supreme

8. 666:Satan (The God of Highschool)

9. Garou

10.

Tier 4-B:

1. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)

2. The White Queen (Blood Sign)

3. Senshi from Sailor Moon (Universe)

4. Balancer

5. Zhong Yue

6. Announcer (Battle for Dream island)

7. Ji Ning

8. Xiao Hei

9.

10.

Tier High 4-C

1. Characters from Bastard!!

2. Balancer

3. Xue Ying

4. Characters from Yu-Gi-Oh!

5. Characters from Pacheco Cara Floja (Verse)

6. Ichigo Kurosaki

7. Garou

8.

9.

10.

Tier 4-C:

1. Nono

2. Theodore Miller

3. Teridax

4. Ichigo Kurosaki

5. Setsuno

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier Low 4-C:

1. Dark Samus

2. Characters from Enter the Gungeon

3. Other characters from Metroid

4. Sonic

5. HIM

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier High 5-A:

1. Du Tian

2. Xue Ying

3. Pink Panther

4.Teridax

5. Super Sonic (X)

6. Characters from Axe Cop (Verse)

7. Kawahira

8.

9.

10.

Tier 5-A:

1. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Wang Lin)

2. Zeref

3. Characters from Weakest Mage

4. Kamen Rider Lazer

5. SpongeBob

6. Characters from Katekyo Hitman Reborn

7. Garou

8.

9.

10.

Tier 5-B:

1. Characters from Bastard!!

2. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)

3. Odin (Fortissimo)

4. Meng Chuan

5. Characters from D.Gray-Man (Allen Walker and The Millennium Earl)

6. Illidan Stormrage

7. Saika Kuozaki

8. Ada (Boruto)

9. Characters from Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu (Makoto Misumi and The Goddess)

10. Phoenix Force

Tier Low 5-B:

1. Rei Ayanami / Adam (Evangelion)

2. Mummy the Resurrection

3. Characters from Ergenverse (Bai Xiaochun and Ji Mo)

4. QiQi

5. Ji Ning

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier 5-C:

1. Kagami

2. Characters from Ergenverse

3. Characters from Arifureta

4. Kenshiro

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier High 6-A:

1. Chen Qi (Dragon Talisman)

2. Golden King

3. Zhong Yue

4. Characters from Ergenverse

5. Ji Ning

6. Rimuru Tempest (Light Novel)

7. Characters from Bleach (Yhwach, Sosuke Aizen and Lille Barro) / Adam (Evangelion)

8. Eternatus

9. Characters from Saint Seiya (Eagle Marin, Ophiuchus Shaina, and Perseus Algol)

10. Characters from Touhou (Mainly Reisen)

Tier 6-A:

1. Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (such as Diablo (Web Novel))

2. Characters from Ergenverse

3. Kidou En

4. Tendou Harima

5. Gremmy Thourmeaux

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier High 6-B:

1. Characters from Ergenverse (mostly Gongsun Wan'er)

2. Kamen Rider Cronus

3. Ehit

4. Jerga

5. Alte

6. Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken

7. Kamen Rider Ghost

8. Unleashed True Self Mode Baam

9. Characters from Toriko (Starjun and Brunch)

10.

Tier 6-B:

1. Yomoji Shinsei

2. Characters from Arifureta

3. Characters from Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu

4. Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken

5. Characters from Bleach

6. Calyrex

7. Obito Uchiha

8.

9.

10.

Tier Low 6-B:

1. Characters from Arifureta

2. Characters from D.Gray-Man (Road Kamelot, and Tyki Mikk )

3. Limbo

4. Ark

5. Ji Ning

6. Characters from Saint Seiya

7. Kamen Rider Zero-One

8. Oltura

9.

10.

Tier High 6-C:

1. Ji Ning

2. Ard

3. Kamen Rider Ark-Zero

4. Characters from Bleach

5. Sousei no Onmyouji (Rokuro Enmadou, Sakanashi and Benio Enmado)

6. Bebe

7. The Player (Shinobi Strikers)

8. Shuna

9. Chiyo (Toriko)

10.

Tier 6-C:

1. Melheis Boran

2. Characters from Puella Magi Verse (Mami Tomoe and Alina Gray)

3. Li Qiye

4. Szayelaporro Granz

5. Mephisto

6. Xue Ying

7. Characters from To Aru Majutsu No Index (Kakine Teitoku and Gabriel)

8. Characters from Saint Seiya

9. characters from Arifureta (Hajime, Kaori, Laus and Kouki)

10. Nergal

Tier High 7-A:

1. Han

2. Zhong Yue

3. Characters from Arifureta

4. Characters from Naruto (Edo Itachi and Obito Uchiha)

5. The Great Warlock

6. Cole MacGrath (Evil Karma)

7. Nergal

8. The Second Christ

9.

10.

Tier 7-A:

1. Melheis Boran

2. Kumoko (Speed Equal)

3. Han Jee-Han

4. Characters from Arifureta

5. Characters from Death Mage

6. Senna (Bleach)

7. Geist Grace

8. Zhong Yue

9. Itachi Uchiha

10. Kamen Rider Zero-One (Beginning of Series)

Tier 7-B:

1. Grimm=Grimm

2. Diablo (Web Novel) / Void Entity

3. Charecters from Arifureta (Speed Equal) / Characters from Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry (Speed Unequal)

4. Noth

5. Honjou Masayuki (Web Novel)

6. The Player (Pixel Gun 3D)

7. Kakine Teitoku

8. Charecters from Re: Zero (Reinhard van Astrea, Satella, Reid Astrea)

9. Alan

10. Brunhild Schild

Tier Low 7-B:

1. Strahd von Zarovich

2. Theodore Miller

3. Characters from Godspeed (Speed Equal) / Giygas (Speed Unequalized)

4. Saten

5. Ancient Lich King (Summoners War)

6. Characters from Undead Unluck (Mr. Billy and Seal)

7. Etrien Gnosos

8.

9.

10.

Tier High 7-C:

1. Han Jee-Han

2. Fran (with Master (Tensei Shitara Ken Deshita))

3. Tao Hua

4. SpongeBob

5. Brunhild Schild

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier 7-C:

1. Klein

2. Beiloune

3. Eshita Inana

4. Characters from Bleach (Yumichika Ayasegawa, Izuru Kira and Rukia Kuchiki)

5. Characters from Touhou

6. The Hunter

7. Cid

8. Crocodile

9. Ali

10. Johnny Test

Tier Low 7-C:

1. Meng Chuan

2. Sacred Eclipse / Cat Boy

3. Rei Ogami

4. Natsumi

5. Characters from D.Gray-Man (Allen Walker and Yu Kanda)

6. Characters from Touhou

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier 8-A:

1. Characters from Dungeons and Dragons (Yagnoloth, Barbed Devil, Stone Golem)

2. Characters from Owari no Chronicle (Typhon and Susamikado)

3. The Hunter

4. Henry Stickman

5. Sacred Eclipse

6. Shizuku Yaegashi

7. Han Jee-Han / Ikki Kurogane

8. Crowfather

9. Junko

10. Characters from Summoners War (Expresso Cookie and Madeleine Cookie)


Tier 8-B:

1. Characters from Medaka Box (Iihiko, Medaka and Kumagawa)

2. Endou Kousuke

3.Shigara Masami

4. Janus (Nightmares of Alamir)

5. The Sorrow (Speed Equal) / Characters from Touhou (Speed Unequal)

6. Qin Mu

7. Isaac

8. SpongeBob

9. Characters from Dungeons and Dragons (Yagnoloth, Barbed Devil, Stone Golem)

10.

Tier High 8-C:

1. Void Knight

2. Characters from Dungeons and Dragons (Yagnoloth, Barbed Devil, Stone Golem)

3. Henry Stickmin

4. Bunny

5. Macht

6. Anri

7. Johnny Test

8.

9.

10.

Tier 8-C:

1. Characters from What a Beautiful Series (Such as Blood Tree, Dragon & Apondance Lemure Lemure)

2. Trazyn the Infinite

3. Characters from Nuclear Throne

4. Characters from Dungeons and Dragons (Deva, Bebilith, Hydroloth and Night Hag)

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier 9-A:

1. Characters from Dungeons and Dragons (Such as Imp)

2. Sōya Azashiro

3. The Player (The Magic Circle)

4. Characters from Hellper

5. Aiko Hatayama

6. Ainz Ooal Gown

7. Isaac

8. Snatcher

9. Haruna (Arpeggio of Blue Steel)

10. Mardicus


Tier 9-B:

1. Klein Moretti

2. Hatou Manabu

3. Characters from What a Beautiful Series (Blood Tree, Wendigo, Bandersnatch & Zahhak) / Slappy (Books)

4. Aburatori

5. Characters from Owari no Chronicle

6. Aiko Hatayama

7. The Radiance

8. Morgan Yu

9. Henry Stickmin

10. UIU File 2014-014

Tier 9-C:

1. Protagonist-kun

2. Shiba Tatsuya

3. Eztli-Tenoch

4. Tamamo (High School Inari Tamamo-chan!)

5. Scarlet Witch (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

6. Characters from Lord of the Mysteries

7. Kyousuke

8.

9.

10.

Tier 10-A:

1. Characters from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (mainly Tooru & Rohan)

2. Jean Grey

3. Sheville Warhand

4. Sabrina Spellman

5. Subaru Natsuki

6. Characters from Lord of the Mysteries

7. Jean Grey (Post-Retcon)

8. Ibzan

9.

10.

Tier 10-B:

1. Characters from What a Beautiful Series

2. Higashikawa Mamoru

3. Zach Noveda

4. Yukio Hans Vorarlberna

5. Shichinin Misaki

6. Shinobu Oshino

7. Akane Kiryu

8. Hinata Tachibana

9. Teruhashi

10. Jean Grey (Pre-Retcon)

Tier 10-C:

1. Mysterious Stranger

2. Wanambi

3. Characters from SCP Foundation (SCP-3043 and SCP-1436)

4. Adeleine

5.The Grool (Goosebumps)

6. Alden Tate

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier 11-A:

1. SCP-3450

2. Soul Sucking Death Worm

3. Characters from Flatland (Universe)

4. Little Circle

5. Mister Mxyzptlk (Cosmic Adventures in the 8th Grade)

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

Tier 11-B:

1. King of Lineland

2. Queens of Lineland

3. Sandman (SCP)


Tier 11-C:

1. Monarch of Pointland

2. Caroline (SCP)
 
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Alright, let's try this again.

Announcer for 6th 4-B and 4-A, I suppose. Reasons listed in here:

Announcer has thought-based Plot Manipulation that causes people to be erased from the episode which causes them to not appear for the rest of it, and it also doubles as a Power Null. Not to mention, the range with that Plot Manipulation goes on a high-universal scale.
 
I nominate characters from saint seiya for multiple spots such as;




Characters from Saint Seiya for #6th spot in 2-A (Chronos, Zeus, Typhon, Uranus, Cronos, Tartarus and Gaia)

Characters from Saint Seiya for #6th Spot in 2-C (Hades, Athena, Poseidon, God Cloth Seiya, Shun, Shiryu, Hyoga, and Ikki, God Cloth Tenma, Thanatos, Hypnos and Eris)

Characters from Saint Seiya for #6th Spot in Low 2-C (Athena, Poseidon, and Eris)

Characters from Saint Seiya for #6th Spot in High 6-A (Eagle Marin, Ophiuchus Shaina, and Perseus Algol)

Characters from Saint Seiya for #6th Spot in Low 6-B (pretty much all other silver saints except the 3 listed above, and minus Orphee along with Keys from Seiya, Shun, Shiryu, Hyoga, and Ikki

Characters from Saint Seiya for #6th Spot in 6-C (pretty much all bronze saints)





I will say their biggest weakeness will be lack of interaction feats AE Type 1, Acausality, NEP, TD for examples with their current profiles

Their biggest strength though would be their passives.

All Characters have this. The higher tiers have even more passives

Passive Heat manipulation that scales to Cosmo level,
Passive Aura for matter and soul destruction
Passive Instinctive reactions that alerts them to danger, where its coming from, and how to counter it with their current abilities.
Passive AD where in less than a few minute they quickly become 100x's stronger, Faster, and more durable and they also get further stronger upon taking damage.
Passive sight based reactive evolution that is instant

perahps the best hax is they have passive probability manipulation that allows them to change impossible events into possible ones and make that possibility that was slim 100% possible. Also through probability manipulation they can increase their speed, AP, and durability to infinity by giving them infinite cosmo which upscales the passive heat manipulation to infinite heat too.

their biggest weakness would be acausality, AE Type 1, NEP, TD, Smurfs, etc

Quoting myself from the last thread

Edit: I nominate them for whatever placement os avaliable in those tiers.
 
Arifureta characters for a spot in 7-B for the reasons I commented here. I'm not exactly what spot because I haven't read the other spots profiles, but based in the fact that one of the 7-B Arifureta characters that I'm proposing (Shizuku) can get a inco with Ikki strongest key I suppose they could get third spot either by sharing it with Rakudai or even by taking the spot since various of the characters I'm proposing have things that at least Ikki can't face (like the infinite spatial corridor of Naiz, the time slow and immortality of Meiru, the gravity haxs of Miledi, etc).
 
alright, I finished the nominations from the old thread, but if I missed any of them just give me a heads up

if there wasn't a reason why a nominee beat another specific nominee for a spot, I ordered them based on which ones were nominated first
 
BTW, do I have to do yet another match to challenge Pokémon's position in 2-B with Sora? I don't think much changes as it's basically against the exact same opponent as before (Giratina), and so barely anything changes.
 
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BTW, do I have to do yet another match to challenge Pokémon's position in 2-B with Sora? I don't think much changes as it's basically against the exact same opponent as before (Giratina), and so barely anything changes.
nah, if someone wants to challenge sora they can just make another match

I'll update the list pretty soon
 
Can you put Henry in for 9-B? Passive retries make him difficult, if not impossible to kill. Speaking which, he might be beating Flowey in this thread, and if he does win, place him above Flowey for 8-A. All that’s need is some votes.
 
Talking about 8-A, remove Fugil, for months (actually years) have be said how he shouldn't be there at that tier since his strong stuff come from Ouroboros key, something said by the main supporter of the verse itself (Ionliosite).

Also with Flowey, don't know if should really be on the list if apparently anyone with a hax that incap (like mind manip, sleep manip, possession, etc) can defeat him from what was said in the Johnny vs Flowey (honestly the fact that Johnny can defeat him already is enough reason to remove Flowey from a list like this).
 
eh, even if they are weak few other stronger individuals have been suggested (although i know there was a thread a while back to determine the strongest 8-A's)

tbh I would rather they be kicked off the list by finding 8 stronger individuals in 8-A, instead of kicking them off because they are weak compared to the members of other tiers on this list.
 
eh, even if they are weak few other stronger individuals have been suggested (although i know there was a thread a while back to determine the strongest 8-A's)

tbh I would rather they be kicked off the list by finding 8 stronger individuals in 8-A, instead of kicking them off because they are weak compared to the members of other tiers on this list.
Nono, like, Fugil at 8-A is literally just a skilled dude with a sword (hence why his range is just extended melee range), he don't have offensive haxs or things like that, and not only the profile itself show that but I myself as someone who finished the novel can confirm that. Is not a thing of be weak, is a thing that directly the character don't have any reason to be there compared with most of the 8-A characters in the wiki.

In Flowey case I still can understand your feeling so ok if you don't instantly remove him in.
 
Nono, like, Fugil at 8-A is literally just a skilled dude with a sword (hence why his range is just extended melee range), he don't have offensive haxs or things like that, and not only the profile itself show that but I myself as someone who finished the novel can confirm that. Is not a thing of be weak, is a thing that directly the character don't have any reason to be there compared with most of the 8-A characters in the wiki.

In Flowey case I still can understand your feeling so ok if you don't instantly remove him in.
ah, that makes sense lol

yeah, he can be removed
 
Once again, I still have no clue how they are not on here yet, so add characters from Touhou for 8-B, Low 7-C, 7-C, and High 6-A. Not only do those characters have infinite speed, but many of the youkai have Mid-Godly regeneration while also having an immensely high level of danmaku where touching a bullet causes your soul to get completely drained even with resistance to it.
 
Once again, I still have no clue how they are not on here yet, so add characters from Touhou for 8-B, Low 7-C, 7-C, and High 6-A. Not only do those characters have infinite speed, but many of the youkai have Mid-Godly regeneration while also having an immensely high level of danmaku where touching a bullet causes your soul to get completely drained even with resistance to it.
any specific spots?
 
Range aint smurf
Basically only characters who don't have higher-dimentional abilities or stats then their dimentional level (I.E. a 10D character can't have 11D hax, for example). Even if said stuff is pratically useless. This also includes protection from a higher dimentional being, range and resistances. Only the base stats are considered (I.E. if a character has a High 3-A technique but is only 9-A by itself, then the character will only count for 9-A and not for High 3-A).
 
Multiversal = 4-D innately.

If (The Hunter) has Multiversal while only being a 3-D character, he would have smurf range. Simple as.
 
Interdimensional is for characters that can travel to other bodies of space physically, but don't encompass the whole thing with attacks and the like (say, universal nuking), the thing is that it isn't smurf by default out of not all bodies of space being universes or the like by default, but when universes are involved it's a 4-D ability.
 
Interdimensional is for characters that can travel to other bodies of space physically, but don't encompass the whole thing with attacks and the like (say, universal nuking), the thing is that it isn't smurf by default out of not all bodies of space being universes or the like by default, but when universes are involved it's a 4-D ability.
The Hunter doesnt do that is the thing, literally the only thing he has in his arsenal that has 2-A range is summoning
 
Uh... which Hunter we're talking about exactly, once again? There's multiple ones on the site

The former number 1 spot holder
 
Also i love how summoning people from other universes is considered smurf but Flowey's timeline resetting isnt
 
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