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are they AE?Unless it's Concept Type 3 (or the being can be incapped without destroying the concept) most likely not.
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are they AE?Unless it's Concept Type 3 (or the being can be incapped without destroying the concept) most likely not.
No.are they AE?
How many layers do they have for their hax?(all)No.
I mean, they can turn info type 2 after death and be restored by their allies or theoretically on their own eventually, but the timeframe on the latter is unknown enough for it to be incap. So, not currently, and can't be in a way that matters.
All is info type 2 based, so if you don't resist that and the things below it in the verse (space, time, destiny, laws etc.) you might have a bad time.How many layers do they have for their hax?(all)
Is the superiority of these ranks provide a higher quality hax or just increase in power(ether).All is info type 2 based, so if you don't resist that and the things below it in the verse (space, time, destiny, laws etc.) you might have a bad time.
They have resistance negation, in that authorities of gods can't be negated or resisted. This goes to the point that if two contradictory authorities clash it is considered a logical paradox and the concept of contradiction allowance, who allows such things to exist to begin with, is invoked to arbitrate which authority wins out. The concept of contradiction allowance is a type 1 concept that also deals with contradictions related to type 1 concept powers btw. so if you want to invalidate an authority you need to handle something on those levels.
Aside from that there is Divine Rank. If A has a higher Divine Rank than B, A has resistance to everything B does. Conversely, A's abilities are not affected by B's Divine Rank at all. The Divine Ranks are (from highest to lowest) World, Space, Heaven, Planet, Realm, Region, Country, Metropolis, City, Town, Village, House, Room, Hidden, and Empty. Yomoji is a World rank god and apparently one of the strongest amongst them.
As said, it's a resistance vs. bypassing resistance thing. Divine Rank often correlates with power, but is not in itself power and exceptions (high power but low divine rank) exist.Is the superiority of these ranks provide a higher quality hax or just increase in power(ether).
I'm just asking if there ranks depend on somekind of energy level or a superiority over the lower ranksAs said, it's a resistance vs. bypassing resistance thing. Divine Rank often correlates with power, but is not in itself power and exceptions (high power but low divine rank) exist.
It's pretty explicitly about countering hax at that, with the same hax may working or not working depending on the current rank.
Ranks don't depend on energy level, no.I'm just asking if there ranks depend on somekind of energy level or a superiority over the lower ranks
SlimeUnless it's Concept Type 3 (or the being can be incapped without destroying the concept) most likely not.
Edit: Or if the opponent has a weird cosmology where concepts < info Type 2, but never seen that be the case.
Why aren't answering in Hajime vs Qiqi?Ranks don't depend on energy level, no.
Just didn't get to it yet.Why aren't answering in Hajime vs Qiqi?
Bumping this so that the OP adds it.Heyyyy
I would like to nominate SOMETHING from OMORI for 8-C.
Reasoning:
It’s unique combination of abstract existence, incorporeality, and type 8 immortality makes it nearly impossible to permanently kill for anyone within its tier by conventional means. It’s basically a living personification of OMORI’s fear and guilt, and thus will come back no matter how many times it is hurt, killed, or even erased.
This, combined with its passive FEAR inducement; a status effect that not only makes everything that sees it afraid of it, but also passively disables all of their abilities aside from basic attacks. It’s basically just complete power null of most offensive powers, which can only be negated if they have a way to force themselves to calm down.
It's overall just a really strong character in its tier.
Live footage of local man driven to insanity by RPs and extended exposure to subject: BonesBumping this so that the OP adds it.
Couldn't those guys get incapped by info type 2 stuff, though? Like, I think if they exist only as concept they can't fight, can they?
I don't they have layers.Couldn't those guys get incapped by info type 2 stuff, though? Like, I think if they exist only as concept they can't fight, can they?
If I talk specifically about the characters, for example; Beretta's true self is the embodiment of the concept of type 2 darkness, born from the great spirit of darkness which is concept of type 1 darkness. However, his other abstract things such as his soul, mind, skills, memories, thoughts etc. consist of information type 2. So if you manipulate information type 2, which is another fundamental aspect of his being, you can affect him. However, it should not be forgotten that the characters in Tensura, especially their Spiritual Lifeforms, have a wide variety of resistances to the manipulation of their fundamental information. For example, you cannot rewrite their physical bodies, genetic information by controlling their fundamental information, or directly destroy their fundamental information because their skills protect their information.Couldn't those guys get incapped by info type 2 stuff, though?
Of course, they can exist and fight, but they have a limit, and this limit varies depending on the character's magic power and level of existence. Veldanava, for example, is exempt from these limitations because it is a completely spiritual lifeform and has infinite magical energy. About of Shuna and Beretta, Shuna has nihility supply in this key so this isn't an issue for her. However, Beretta's stamina section is out of date, and even if it were, I don't think it has nihility supply in this key, so this could be an issue for it.Like, I think if they exist only as concept they can't fight, can they?
Chances are Yomoji has the ability to overcome those protections.If I talk specifically about the characters, for example; Beretta's true self is the embodiment of the concept of type 2 darkness, born from the great spirit of darkness which is concept of type 1 darkness. However, his other abstract things such as his soul, mind, skills, memories, thoughts etc. consist of information type 2. So if you manipulate information type 2, which is another fundamental aspect of his being, you can affect him. However, it should not be forgotten that the characters in Tensura, especially their Spiritual Lifeforms, have a wide variety of resistances to the manipulation of their fundamental information. For example, you cannot rewrite their physical bodies, genetic information by controlling their fundamental information, or directly destroy their fundamental information because their skills protect their information.
Of course, they can exist and fight, but they have a limit, and this limit varies depending on the character's magic power and level of existence. Veldanava, for example, is exempt from these limitations because it is a completely spiritual lifeform and has infinite magical energy. About of Shuna and Beretta, Shuna has nihility supply in this key so this isn't an issue for her. However, Beretta's stamina section is out of date, and even if it were, I don't think it has nihility supply in this key, so this could be an issue for it.
Finally, true dragons, the highest level spiritual lifeforms in Tensura, can only exist as a type 1 concept; so type 2 information hax is useless against them.
And if mind and skills are gone how do they still fight? Is there a showing of Shuna fighting while her information is erased, i.e. after she is just a concept?
I have no idea, maybe it's an incon. Regardless, I'm very busy right now, so I haven't intention of fighting the higher ranks unless a character from the lower ranks tries to unseat them.Chances are Yomoji has the ability to overcome those protections
Nah if you erase the fundamental informational aspect of tensura characters (except true dragons and anyone who have infinite regeneration) they die, although they'll ressurect but that's after a long period of timeChances are Yomoji has the ability to overcome those protections.
And if mind and skills are gone how do they still fight? Is there a showing of Shuna fighting while her information is erased, i.e. after she is just a concept?
BumpI would like to propose wang ling for 2c, 10th position ( if some else is there plz let me know ).
BumpRimuru (Light Novel) should be removed from High 6A. He has 4D Acausality Type 4 and Law Manipulation and its resistance for a while now, and he also instantly summons Veldora, a 2C character, when in a difficult situation.
Yes, it does.I have no idea why that would be applicable in this scenario given that clearly seems to be specialized against ancient magic (and from the scan doesn't even seem to be Law and Concept based power null rather than negating things which apply those effect through that vector) rather than being a general negation towards these abilities so nothing is stopping them from existing and popping his A.T. Feild causing him to be decomposed into his component quarks. Also, that aura gets power nulled.
Can you ask about this here ?It works because the Guardian Talisman use ancient magic as the basis of its ability, and ancient magic is the power to manipulate the very underlying principles of the universe, reason to why the effects of ancient magic work regardless of the energy system used (as they work against any of the different unique energies that exist in verse) or against non supernatural effects accomplished through technology (as show by the fact that weak spatial magic can interfere with the spatial manipulation of technology).
Its not necessary to remove it, the thread doesn't dive in by not adding smurfs we don't just use their smurf abilities or whateverBump
Bump
Acausality Type 4 depends on the dimensionality of the causality system of which it is independent.Acausality have no form of dimensions or whatever so it doesn't really matter
This list doesn't work that way.Its not necessary to remove it, the thread doesn't dive in by not adding smurfs we don't just use their smurf abilities or whatever
Rimuru with or without veldora+his law manip
Reasons?George Washington for sharing the second place with Dracula in Low 2-C.
The Horned Serpent
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Sound like he cant pass giygasGeorge Washington for sharing the second place with Dracula in Low 2-C.
The Horned Serpent
The Horned Serpent is a colossal malevolent entity lurking beneath America, the greatest among the True Forces of Mass Destruction, and the primary antagonist of the Monument Mythos Analog Horror series. It is an ancient being that has slumbered underneath the Earth for centuries, and the...vsbattles.fandom.com
Reasons?
Subjective Reality and Plot Manipulation.Sound like he cant pass giygas
Giygas and Dracula has passivesSubjective Reality and Plot Manipulation.
Via fictionalization.
If that not passive, giygas can stomp himSubjective Reality and Plot Manipulation.
Via fictionalization.
Oh yeah, forgot Dracula passive.Giygas and Dracula has passives
What passive?If that not passive, giygas can stomp him
Koriel purifies or erasesGeorge Washington for sharing the second place with Dracula in Low 2-C.
The Horned Serpent
The Horned Serpent is a colossal malevolent entity lurking beneath America, the greatest among the True Forces of Mass Destruction, and the primary antagonist of the Monument Mythos Analog Horror series. It is an ancient being that has slumbered underneath the Earth for centuries, and the...vsbattles.fandom.com
Number 12 cannot resist Plot lol.Koriel purifies or erases
Doesn't matter when it isn't thought based nor does the horned serpent lead with it lol, and even if it did Koriel would win because it just pulls out a lethal move off ripNumber 12 cannot resist Plot lol.
Mind, Corruption, Empathic, Void, Attack Reflection.Oh yeah, forgot Dracula passive.
What passive?