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They have Oryx, that is enough
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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation
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Jozaysmith?
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Is his math manip some kind of omnipotent power?
That's the only good stuff there
Oliver_de_jesus
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Oryx and his Takens can do Corruption, Law Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation, Reality Warping, Existence Erasure, Mind Manipulation, Body Puppetry and Possession at same time, that have hundreds of layers+ Resistance negation, negate Invulnerability and well, he copy his enemy when he kill them
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Sword Logic
The Sword Logic is an overarching concept in Destiny that many people are able to tap in to for the purpose of accessing power and abilities. While technically a neutral power, it is used almost exclusively by the Hive or Hive affiliated forces, while also used by others like the Player...
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But better call Destiny support
Jozaysmith?
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Non duality pretty much have every resistance if its aspect type 2
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Every single thing those characters have is either resisted in some way by the destiny characters, is irrelevant because they get haxed out in some way or another, or isn't exactly relevant because while the destiny cast can't do anything to them due to defensive haxes (which may not even be the case) they can't exactly do anything to destiny people due to thier resistances
(which makes me wonder why the creator is above them but eh)
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The video game versions of the Sonic The Hedgehog cast are about to finally become Low 1-C (5-D), maybe 6-D. Depending on whether or not 6-D gets accepted, I propose one of two things.
If 6-D gets accepted. I propose they at bare minimum take the #5 spot on the Low 1-C list. I'm not sure if Nyanlathotep is 6-D or not, but going by her profile. She doesn't seem to have anything that would be able to take the cast of Sonic down, and unless I read the profile wrong, she has literally no resistances. Meaning literally anything the Sonic cast can do will work. Realistically they could also be on the same spot as Makina and Arceus. Since they're faster than Makina, and could exceed Arceus in speed due to amps (Even if they can't affect the original body) and resist most of the deadly things both have to throw at them. So either the #5 spot or share the #4 spot with Arceus and Makina
If 6-D is not accepted then they should take the #7 position in Low 1-C. Since almost any Sonic character can one shot Loki with almost anything and resist literally everything Loki can do. It's also for this reason that I propose Sora from Kingdom Hearts also be moved up above Loki since he also has a plethora of stuff that allow him to stomp Loki, while Sora resists almost everything Loki can do and can't affect Sora's essence. Then Sonic would have to fight magic Chris Thorndyke for the 2023rd time, after Kingdom Hearts' recent changes.
If 6-D gets accepted. I propose they at bare minimum take the #5 spot on the Low 1-C list. I'm not sure if Nyanlathotep is 6-D or not, but going by her profile. She doesn't seem to have anything that would be able to take the cast of Sonic down, and unless I read the profile wrong, she has literally no resistances. Meaning literally anything the Sonic cast can do will work. Realistically they could also be on the same spot as Makina and Arceus. Since they're faster than Makina, and could exceed Arceus in speed due to amps (Even if they can't affect the original body) and resist most of the deadly things both have to throw at them. So either the #5 spot or share the #4 spot with Arceus and Makina
If 6-D is not accepted then they should take the #7 position in Low 1-C. Since almost any Sonic character can one shot Loki with almost anything and resist literally everything Loki can do. It's also for this reason that I propose Sora from Kingdom Hearts also be moved up above Loki since he also has a plethora of stuff that allow him to stomp Loki, while Sora resists almost everything Loki can do and can't affect Sora's essence. Then Sonic would have to fight magic Chris Thorndyke for the 2023rd time, after Kingdom Hearts' recent changes.
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For 3rd 10-A
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Subaru Natsuki VS Sabrina Spellman
A battle for the 3rd spot in the 10-A strongest non-smurf list. Natsuki Subaru, the Spirit Knight of Emilia (With Beatrice) VS Sabrina Spellman, the Teenage Witch Speed Equalized • SBA Subaru: Sabrina:
Fallen_Angelicx
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Could Shinpei Ajiro get a spot for 9-C or at least 10-A?
Jozaysmith?
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He's a smurf
Jozaysmith?
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he can take 9-C last spot or smt
Spinoirr
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Guys the low godly regen version of pyra is beating Ganon
EL_xWatcher1234x
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Why, what do they have against her (essentially) passive time travel?
EL_xWatcher1234x
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With their haxes, don't think time travel will help.
before she press the button she will be dead by Hajime's aura (fear and madness), he also can use demons that hack and posses machines, Laws and CM2 and 1, he can also nullify time manipulation with other stuff.
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She doesn't need to press the button.
Future versions of her that already won the fight on their own appear in the present to help Qiqi win the fight. I.e. the problem lies in having to win a fight against an extraordinary genius with prior knowledge and infinite prep time, since that is what her future version would amount to.
(also not sure if that aura thing would even work on a robot)
EL_xWatcher1234x
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The problem she got no way of winning against them, and no resistance to what they can do, assuming that she always win in the future is a NLF, don't forget he can null Law and CM2 time manipulation passively at a close range or using bullets for a longer range, demons (soul) can posses technology in Arifureta.
Just check his profile, he caused an AI to experience fear and illusion (indirectly) when he got serious, said AI was on the other side of the planet, it also affect abstract beings or beings without soul.
Does she resist anything Hajime can do?
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That presumes she can beat the character in the first place, cause I know damn well she aint beating Ning even if her future version comes back as she would just get caught in ning's concept manip + spatial lock
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Nessie currently has madness type 3 which, iirc, even works on spiritual beings. Not sure about machines, though. I'm also planning to upgrade the AE to type 1, and them possibly having type 3 acausality and the ability to sense changes in the flow of time. For now, I'm not sure how Nessie loses to QiQi, even ignoring the upgrades I'm planning.
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deonment, Rikimarox2 can Evangelion(verse) defeat them, from their profiles they don't resist their hax.
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Eva is already first in low 5-B
EL_xWatcher1234x
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I meant can they defeat: Ji Ning, Hajime and Nessie
EL_xWatcher1234x
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Does it rely them having a soul and does it affect inorganic beings?
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Ji Ning and Hajime both eat deconstruction down to their fundamental quarks while for nessie while technically Adam/Lilith-Rei can't permanently put them down, by incap rules they do get beaten as they would be kept in a state of constantly regenning
EL_xWatcher1234x
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How does it work?
Hajime got passive Law and CM2 power null that include the manipulation of(mind, soul, time, space, energy, matter, organic, info...) or non passive by analyzing the ability and creating countermeasures, and his aura alone cause multiple hax like fear, illusion and madness, spatial shockwave, technology disruption
He won't just stand there and take it, he also got info type 2 power analysis and mimicry, ressurection, and time based healing.
Do they resist anything he can do?
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The thing is, you have to account for future potential and her knowledge. She, amongst others, does things like travel to the past to copy the tech of her enemies and then start improving on it. So, one thing perfectly in-character for her, is for her future version to have Hajime's tech to use against him, but improved. In principle nothing stops her from learning non-tech related things either, like perhaps she could study and learn the magic of his verse?
Qiqi can just build an army of robots that don't have true AI to circumvent the fear stuff, although she herself is also pretty brave, if that accounts for something. I mean, she already has parasite bombs of which she could teleport in a bunch.
She could also access tech from the Princess character in her series in the future, who can build biological robots with reactive evolution that allows them to quickly evolve immunity to stuff. With some training, that could be useful.
Also, she resists hacking. A lot.
I'm also not sure if he can sense an invisible and inaudible robot or distinguish her from countless fake robots, which could mitigate his offensive options a lot. She has fooled super senses before. That would be the first defense against law and concept stuff, with the other being the fact that her future version suddenly teleporting in will get the jump on him and might just immediately end the fight.
Similar to Ka'more (her rival in the verse) she could create tech that makes backups of her and transfers it to other tech. So she could survive by a backup of her present (or a past) version of her being put on a machine is a distant part of the galaxy.
Her future version can of course become AP wise much stronger.
Future Qiqi is also known to create a device that stops the movements of all atoms in a 50km radius for a pseudo-timestop. I believe Hajime does not resist that.
Qiqi has created space manip technology, so I don't think she can't overcome a spatial lock given infinite prep.
I think Ji Ning also doesn't resist bio weapons, which is something future Qiqi can gain access to.
While Qiqi probably has no real way of dealing with concepts, Ji's explanation doesn't seem like concept erasure or anything like that. Not sure how combat relevant that actual conceptual part of the technique is. She can also just kill him before he uses it.
Aside from that, see the above for other stuff Qiqi can use.
After the upgrades Nessie might win then, if the AE is based on something good (like proper Type 1/2 concepts) or the acausality works well.
For now, I'm not so sure, though.
If ya guys want to make vs-threads, might want to take turns. Three at once are a bit much.
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Qiqi my fav character from genshin impact??
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I have no idea why that would be applicable in this scenario given that clearly seems to be specialized against ancient magic (and from the scan doesn't even seem to be Law and Concept based power null rather than negating things which apply those effect through that vector) rather than being a general negation towards these abilities so nothing is stopping them from existing and popping his A.T. Feild causing him to be decomposed into his component quarks. Also, that aura gets power nulled.
EL_xWatcher1234x
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This is the AI he fought.
Copy what?
Devices and weapons made from the combination technology and magic that rely on Laws and CM2 .
Did she ever do something like that, yeah and mana is undetectable unless she can analyze something on macro-quantum level.
He also learn, adapt and improve against enemies more haxed than him with resistance to everything he has and he still developed counter measures against them in the middle of the fight.(he is extraordinary genius)
This based on NLF and that he will just stand there and wait doing nothing, which is completly against his personality.
Building more robots or summoning more version of her is just a bad choice.
Demons (soul) posses don't just hack they also posses machines,people and objects that mean even the biological robots will be possesed, and if her haxes come from her body then she just gave him another army and another Qiqi to use.
About RE, can they adapt to layered Law an CM2 or any if his hax?
Have you checked his profile?
He can sense(invisible, soul, abstract and dude with a stealth so OP it erase his prescence anyone and anything including machines), he can also sense and see spacial distortion or something happening on another universe.
He analyze her and target her info type2, or it won't make a difference because he was able to find the machine that have the back up AI using a compass (CM1) that told him the location of anything across the multiverse.
How will that deal with Law and CM?
this is assuming he will just stand there defendless, he can sense spatial distortion(portal, teleportation, spatial cut and shockwave...) before they manifest, he has a multiple spatial barriers and he can lock inside a barrier where she can't use any form of space-time manipulation.
He resist something like that and his passive power null will deal with it.
Just check his profile.
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Except that what their Law and CM2 can do. They are the source of all those hax and their negation work on everything related even Science fiction stuff.
(Just read the explanation)
Have you even read the stuff he resist?
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I will create a thread later to reply to this, to not clutter this one. Or you create one if you don't want to wait.
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what about a match?
Strongest non-smurf Low 5-B Hajime vs Qiqi
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hajime_Nagumo#After-Stories_%E2%96%BE VS https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Qiqi Condition: speed equalized Hajime: @Expectro2000xxx ,@pfate17 ,@Phoenks ,@Epiccheev ,@LuffyRuffy46307 ,@EL_xWatcher1234x ,@Noneless21 , Qiqi: @DontTalkDT ,@Jozaysmith? ...
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Heyyyy
I would like to nominate SOMETHING from OMORI for 8-C.
Reasoning:
It’s unique combination of abstract existence, incorporeality, and type 8 immortality makes it nearly impossible to permanently kill for anyone within its tier by conventional means. It’s basically a living personification of OMORI’s fear and guilt, and thus will come back no matter how many times it is hurt, killed, or even erased.
This, combined with its passive FEAR inducement; a status effect that not only makes everything that sees it afraid of it, but also passively disables all of their abilities aside from basic attacks. It’s basically just complete power null of most offensive powers, which can only be negated if they have a way to force themselves to calm down.
It's overall just a really strong character in its tier.
I would like to nominate SOMETHING from OMORI for 8-C.
Reasoning:
It’s unique combination of abstract existence, incorporeality, and type 8 immortality makes it nearly impossible to permanently kill for anyone within its tier by conventional means. It’s basically a living personification of OMORI’s fear and guilt, and thus will come back no matter how many times it is hurt, killed, or even erased.
This, combined with its passive FEAR inducement; a status effect that not only makes everything that sees it afraid of it, but also passively disables all of their abilities aside from basic attacks. It’s basically just complete power null of most offensive powers, which can only be negated if they have a way to force themselves to calm down.
It's overall just a really strong character in its tier.
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Simple question in 6-B, how come Slime characters are only 4th spot, considering their concept shenanigans and stuff? I don't really see anything on the 3rd spot that could make them stronger?
EL_xWatcher1234x
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3rd spot also got nothing on 5th,6th,7th and 8th.
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Rikimarox2
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In 6-B, can the 1st dude even affect AE 1 (Concept) beings?
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Unless it's Concept Type 3 (or the being can be incapped without destroying the concept) most likely not.
Edit: Or if the opponent has a weird cosmology where concepts < info Type 2, but never seen that be the case.
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Maybe with info type 2 and it looks like gods are abstract entities, but not sure
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