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Rick sanchez is probably going to get the most broken nonduality type 3, so that isn't really impressiveAnd the most common ability is always
Nonexistent Physiology (Nature 2, all aspects) with nonduality (Nature 2, aspect 2 if regular and 3 if op)
HowRick sanchez is probably going to get the most broken nonduality type 3, so that isn't really impressive
I just got back from the gym, give me a sec bruh.Ayo, brother, remember my request ?
This is NEP, not non-dualityOP writes in engrish but yeah..Rick sanchez biggest upgrade for hax
Greetings, my purpose for opening this revision is an event that no one has probably noticed, but that suddenly caught my eye. There is no reason why Rick shouldn't have NEP 3 to NEP 3 negation, and there is a reason why he should have type 5 of NEP avatars. I even think he has acausality 4 or...vsbattles.com
Still having issues about thatRick sanchez is probably going to get the most broken nonduality type 3, so that isn't really impressive
exactly what i saidThis is NEP, not non-duality
Cradle characters for 5th spot in High 6A. . Thye have atleast 9 layers of mind/soul hax not to mention reality , law and comcept hax.
Bro.Reid has beaten Iihiko
Update that on tier 5C
By the way, I don't know why you ranked Natsumi in the #3 Low 7-C spot higher than Alex Mercer's #5 Low 7-C spot when Mercer already defeated Natsumi in this matchup. And this was before Mercer has resistance to Transmutation... Which he now has, especially since Natsumi's Transmutation isn't explicitly stated/described to be atomic level or greater, thus he now stomps her with speed equalised.I haven't forgotten about y'all, it just takes me a little bit of time to actually do the changes. That's all.
true satella shouldnt be on tier 5CBro.
You literally gave Reid prior knowledge on Lihiko because Lihiko would have stomped
This doesn't count
also why is Satella above Lihiko in 5-C?
Lihiko stomped Satella in your own thread
Satella ❤ vs Iihiko 😒 (top 10 strongest tier 5C)
Iihiko shishime vs Satella, the Witch of Envy SBA Both are tier 5C Starting distance is 50m I realized how much time it would take for these to be finished so i decided to open 2 simultaneously 💀vsbattles.com
Muso Tensei is cancer ong frfr (lemme see if i can find a way for Rein to bypass it)Actually, I would argue that Kenshiro and Reinhard would basically go the same way as Reid VS Kenshiro, except Reinhard has blessings and Immortality. Which still lead to an inconclusive since Ken doesn't have to kill Reinhard to win, he could just keep him from fighting (Nanto Seiken negs the regen too).
Actually, he doesn't even have Conceptual Manipulation on his profile (yet) unlike Reid so he can't even get by Muso Tensei
Re:Zero characters need to be lowered for sure.
you shouldn't even be giving people prior knowledge or changing the starting distance in the first place if you want your verse added to this listIihiko vs Reid doesnt change because at the time of the match he didnt have his perception boost + iq boost that he recently got due to the Cecilus chapter sso i gave him prior knowledge to compensate
No. Learning about Lihiko's abilities is useless if everything Reid has is just getting nulledbut, he pretty much instantly learns everything about Iihiko as soon as he sees him now and the end result will be the same
Reinhard mind manip against Lihiko?Reinhard just casually nukes everyone or mind manipulates depending on what his wincon is, so he just stays
if speed is not equal Asta stompsReid vs Asta probably ends with his victory now but i would need to make a rematch
? All the main cast have a 6-C key, so I honestly don't know why you specifically mentioned those characters.
I didn't rank Natsumi above Alex, it was like that before I started maintaining this thread, and since no one previously brought up that match, it was never changed.By the way, I don't know why you ranked Natsumi in the #3 Low 7-C spot higher than Alex Mercer's #5 Low 7-C spot when Mercer already defeated Natsumi in this matchup. And this was before Mercer has resistance to Transmutation... Which he now has, especially since Natsumi's Transmutation isn't explicitly stated/described to be atomic level or greater, thus he now stomps her with speed equalised.
Also, Natsumi's BFR is not described in her profile to be anywhere near the range of her Transmutation, so Mercer could eventually infect her with his viral gasses through out-ranging her once he gets close enough (which would especially happen now that Mercer has some resistance to Transmutation, which would make Mercer stomp her even with the SBA distance as long as speed is equalised).
It's just strange the rankings are like this when Natsumi got her butt kicked by Mercer in the past speed equal matchup... Just saying.
I know they have a 6-C key from scalling, but I thought there was a reason it's not on their profile.? All the main cast have a 6-C key, so I honestly don't know why you specifically mentioned those characters.
I mostly use it for layers and speed .Also, I genuinely don't know why people are asking when the verse page already links an entire blog where it's specified the tier and values of literally all the characters of the verse to make it easier to identify things, like come on, I spent hours writing that shit and updating it when a change happen so people don't have to suffer so at least try to look for yourself instead of being super lazy.
I sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, don't know what you are talking about, literally all the characters mentioned to have a 6-C key in the blog have also a 6-C key in the profile itself.I know they have a 6-C key from scalling, but I thought there was a reason it's not on their profile.
I mostly use it for layers and speed .
Late for response, but man, the Chinese be wild af with their cosmologies lol.
I've read too fast and didn't notice them.I sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, don't know what you are talking about, literally all the characters mentioned to have a 6-C key in the blog have also a 6-C key in the profile itself.
Incon*Ata vs Lihiko
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Iihiko_Shishime vs https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ata Both 5-C SBA Speed Equalvsbattles.com
re zero characters cant interact with Ata while he can so they can share a spot with Kenshiro
Actually Reid should be the only one who can share a spot with kenshiro coz no other rezero character can interact with him
Kenshiro stomps re zero characters aside from Reid due to muso tensei
He just slices his arms off with Nanto Seiken and he can’t fight back because it negs Low-Mid regen. Or he can just paralyze with a pressure point attack.Incon*
He cant kill Reinfart either
Reinhard can just kill himself or get a blessing to overcome thatHe just slices his arms off with Nanto Seiken and he can’t fight back because it negs Low-Mid regen.
He resists status inducement including paralysisOr he can just paralyze with a pressure point attack.
It isKenshiro doesn’t need to kill Reinhard to win it’s not that hard.
- Blessing of Initiative: He cannot be ambushed, and all initial attacks from Reinhard will connect.
- Blessing of First Sight: The first time an attack is performed on Reinhard, he automatically dodges regardless of his awareness of the attack. The Blessing will wake him up even if he's asleep.
- Blessing of Second Sight: The second attack and all following attacks cannot hit him, as he automatically dodges them faster than the first time.
he doesnt need to sense them to block/dodge their attacksReinhard is not dodging attacks that are coming from a being with that level of NEP
scans? Reinhard also gets speed amped each time he sees an attackAnd Kenshiro has been dealing with Reinhards level of instinctive action anyway
Any thought based magic or anything that could let him do that without his arms? And scans to show that it could make save him from his regen being negged? “Make any blessing he wants” ain’t gonna cut it.Reinhard can just kill himself or get a blessing to overcome that
The first one means nothing when Muso Tensei exists.Actually kenshiro cant even hit Reinhard
yes he does..he doesnt need to sense them to block/dodge their attacks
please read the martial arts pagescans?
the problem is Reinhard isn't seeing the attack because of Muso TenseiReinhard also gets speed amped each time he sees an attack
that is assuming you even hit him, he is Reid on steroids with low godly resurrectionAny thought based magic or anything that could let him do that without his arms?
his regen is from the spirits doing it on their own, I would need to look more into it but pretty sure he has better regenAnd scans to show that it could make save him from his regen being negged? “Make any blessing he wants” ain’t gonna cut it.
why? he isnt hitting himThe first one means nothing when Muso Tensei exists.
great but does it give him massive speed amps continously? cause there is gonna be a time where he just outspeeds ken so hard that he becomes unable to be kept withThe second is the same I’m gonna be honest.. Also “The first time an attack is performed on Reinhard, he automatically dodges regardless of his awareness of the attack. The Blessing will wake him up even if he's asleep.” is something Muso Tensei does too. Hell Kasumi was knocked unconscious and it still activated.
no he does not. thats something theresia or heck even garfiel and Elsa can doyes he does..
i am not saying he hits him either but i am saying it would be an incon because ken cant keep him down eitheryou need Reid's level of concept, NEP interaction to touch Kenshiro, something Reinhard doesn't have
already didplease read the martial arts page
he doesnt need to sense it.the problem is Reinhard isn't seeing the attack because of Muso Tensei
frWhy the **** are we even arguing about Reinhard or Reid? They aren't 5-C physically so they do not qualify for 5-C.