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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation
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Rick sanchez is probably going to get the most broken nonduality type 3, so that isn't really impressive
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Rick sanchez biggest upgrade for hax
Greetings, my purpose for opening this revision is an event that no one has probably noticed, but that suddenly caught my eye. There is no reason why Rick shouldn't have NEP 3 to NEP 3 negation, and there is a reason why he should have type 5 of NEP avatars. I even think he has acausality 4 or...
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I just got back from the gym, give me a sec bruh.Ayo, brother, remember my request?
I haven't forgotten about y'all, it just takes me a little bit of time to actually do the changes. That's all.
Rakih_Elyan
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This is NEP, not non-dualityOP writes in engrish but yeah..Rick sanchez biggest upgrade for hax
Greetings, my purpose for opening this revision is an event that no one has probably noticed, but that suddenly caught my eye. There is no reason why Rick shouldn't have NEP 3 to NEP 3 negation, and there is a reason why he should have type 5 of NEP avatars. I even think he has acausality 4 or...vsbattles.com
Jozaysmith?
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Still having issues about that
Jozaysmith?
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exactly what i said
So i find it funny when he said rick is becoming most broken TD3/ND3 when it's acasuality type 3+NEP3 and ND1 or probably no ND1 but meh
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TD type 3 is transcending the very notion of Duality (Thing and nothing) and non duality (neither thing or even nothing) at ideal level (conceptual or laws).
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Bro.
You literally gave Reid prior knowledge on Lihiko because Lihiko would have stomped
This doesn't count
also why is Satella above Lihiko in 5-C?
Lihiko stomped Satella in your own thread
Satella ❤ vs Iihiko 😒 (top 10 strongest tier 5C)
Iihiko shishime vs Satella, the Witch of Envy SBA Both are tier 5C Starting distance is 50m I realized how much time it would take for these to be finished so i decided to open 2 simultaneously 💀
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Reid also had an inconclusive match with Kenshiro so uh... Only Reinhard should be on the 5-C spot as far as I can tell...
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Asta ended up stomping Satella in this thread
vsbattles.com
and Asta vs Reid didn't have a conclusion
so yeah re zero characters should not be above these guys
Satella VS Asta • (0-0-0)
Well, if you insist... I'll commit this sin. - Satella, the Witch of Envy VS Asta, the Despair Eating Demon 5-C Versions • Speed Equalized • SBA
and Asta vs Reid didn't have a conclusion
so yeah re zero characters should not be above these guys
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Actually, I would argue that Kenshiro and Reinhard would basically go the same way as Reid VS Kenshiro, except Reinhard has blessings and Immortality. Which still lead to an inconclusive since Ken doesn't have to kill Reinhard to win, he could just keep him from fighting (Nanto Seiken negs the regen too).
Actually, he doesn't even have Conceptual Manipulation on his profile (yet) unlike Reid so he can't even get by Muso Tensei
Re:Zero characters need to be lowered for sure.
Actually, he doesn't even have Conceptual Manipulation on his profile (yet) unlike Reid so he can't even get by Muso Tensei
Re:Zero characters need to be lowered for sure.
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For 3-A
Bastard!! verse has been accepted to have 6 layers for magic while dragon talisman layers haven't been accepted yet. Their layers determined who would win. Satan loses to Lindon coz layers so Lindon should take 1st place and Satan 2nd
Bastard!! verse has been accepted to have 6 layers for magic while dragon talisman layers haven't been accepted yet. Their layers determined who would win. Satan loses to Lindon coz layers so Lindon should take 1st place and Satan 2nd
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By the way, I don't know why you ranked Natsumi in the #3 Low 7-C spot higher than Alex Mercer's #5 Low 7-C spot when Mercer already defeated Natsumi in this matchup. And this was before Mercer has resistance to Transmutation... Which he now has, especially since Natsumi's Transmutation isn't explicitly stated/described to be atomic level or greater, thus he now stomps her with speed equalised.
Also, Natsumi's BFR is not described in her profile to be anywhere near the range of her Transmutation, so Mercer could eventually infect her with his viral gasses through out-ranging her once he gets close enough (which would especially happen now that Mercer has some resistance to Transmutation, which would make Mercer stomp her even with the SBA distance as long as speed is equalised).
It's just strange the rankings are like this when Natsumi got her butt kicked by Mercer in the past speed equal matchup... Just saying.
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true satella shouldnt be on tier 5CBro.
You literally gave Reid prior knowledge on Lihiko because Lihiko would have stomped
This doesn't count
also why is Satella above Lihiko in 5-C?
Lihiko stomped Satella in your own thread
Satella ❤ vs Iihiko 😒 (top 10 strongest tier 5C)
Iihiko shishime vs Satella, the Witch of Envy SBA Both are tier 5C Starting distance is 50m I realized how much time it would take for these to be finished so i decided to open 2 simultaneously 💀
Iihiko vs Reid doesnt change because at the time of the match he didnt have his perception boost + iq boost that he recently got due to the Cecilus chapter sso i gave him prior knowledge to compensate but, he pretty much instantly learns everything about Iihiko as soon as he sees him now and the end result will be the same
Reinhard just casually nukes everyone or mind manipulates depending on what his wincon is, so he just stays
Reid vs Asta probably ends with his victory now but i would need to make a rematch
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Muso Tensei is cancer ong frfr (lemme see if i can find a way for Rein to bypass it)Actually, I would argue that Kenshiro and Reinhard would basically go the same way as Reid VS Kenshiro, except Reinhard has blessings and Immortality. Which still lead to an inconclusive since Ken doesn't have to kill Reinhard to win, he could just keep him from fighting (Nanto Seiken negs the regen too).
Actually, he doesn't even have Conceptual Manipulation on his profile (yet) unlike Reid so he can't even get by Muso Tensei
Re:Zero characters need to be lowered for sure.
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you shouldn't even be giving people prior knowledge or changing the starting distance in the first place if you want your verse added to this list
No. Learning about Lihiko's abilities is useless if everything Reid has is just getting nulled
The main reason why Reid won was because of his conceptual manip and his prior knowledge you gave him but Lihiko has already nulled conceptual manip from all fiction so like wtf
please make a rematch
Reinhard mind manip against Lihiko?
if speed is not equal Asta stomps
so Re Zero characters shouldn't be on the same spot as Ata
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? All the main cast have a 6-C key, so I honestly don't know why you specifically mentioned those characters.
Also, I genuinely don't know why people are asking when the verse page already links an entire blog where it's specified the tier and values of literally all the characters of the verse to make it easier to identify things, like come on, I spent hours writing that shit and updating it when a change happen so people don't have to suffer so at least try to look for yourself instead of being super lazy.
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I didn't rank Natsumi above Alex, it was like that before I started maintaining this thread, and since no one previously brought up that match, it was never changed.
I'll change it up when I go through and add the changes.
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I know they have a 6-C key from scalling, but I thought there was a reason it's not on their profile.
I mostly use it for layers and speed .
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I sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, don't know what you are talking about, literally all the characters mentioned to have a 6-C key in the blog have also a 6-C key in the profile itself.
Good for you Ig?
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Late for response, but man, the Chinese be wild af with their cosmologies lol.
You know what they say: CHINAH NUMBUH WAN!!!
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I've read too fast and didn't notice them.
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Ata vs Lihiko
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Iihiko_Shishime vs https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ata Both 5-C SBA Speed Equal
re zero characters cant interact with Ata while he can so they can share a spot with Kenshiro
Actually Reid should be the only one who can share a spot with kenshiro coz no other rezero character can interact with him
Kenshiro stomps re zero characters aside from Reid due to muso tensei
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Incon*Ata vs Lihiko
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Iihiko_Shishime vs https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ata Both 5-C SBA Speed Equal
re zero characters cant interact with Ata while he can so they can share a spot with Kenshiro
Actually Reid should be the only one who can share a spot with kenshiro coz no other rezero character can interact with him
Kenshiro stomps re zero characters aside from Reid due to muso tensei
He cant kill Reinfart either
Also Reid and Reinhard can beat Iihiko with skill alone, they can make him mess up into hitting himself or pull out new techniques out of their asses
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He just slices his arms off with Nanto Seiken and he can’t fight back because it negs Low-Mid regen. Or he can just paralyze with a pressure point attack.
Kenshiro doesn’t need to kill Reinhard to win it’s not that hard.
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Reinhard can just kill himself or get a blessing to overcome that
He resists status inducement including paralysis
It is
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Actually kenshiro cant even hit Reinhard
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Reinhard is not dodging attacks that are coming from someone with that level of NEP
And Kenshiro has been dealing with Reinhards level of instinctive action anyway
The only character kenshiro doesn’t stomp is Reid
Reid is the only one who should be on 5-C list, not Reinhard and Satellla
And Kenshiro has been dealing with Reinhards level of instinctive action anyway
The only character kenshiro doesn’t stomp is Reid
Reid is the only one who should be on 5-C list, not Reinhard and Satellla
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he doesnt need to sense them to block/dodge their attacks
scans? Reinhard also gets speed amped each time he sees an attack
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Any thought based magic or anything that could let him do that without his arms? And scans to show that it could make save him from his regen being negged? “Make any blessing he wants” ain’t gonna cut it.
The first one means nothing when Muso Tensei exists.
The second is the same I’m gonna be honest.. Also “The first time an attack is performed on Reinhard, he automatically dodges regardless of his awareness of the attack. The Blessing will wake him up even if he's asleep.” is something Muso Tensei does too. Hell Kasumi was knocked unconscious and it still activated.
Third one at best sounds like it could stall out the fight.
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yes he does..
you need Reid's level of concept, NEP interaction to touch Kenshiro, something Reinhard doesn't have
please read the martial arts page
the problem is Reinhard isn't seeing the attack because of Muso Tensei
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that is assuming you even hit him, he is Reid on steroids with low godly resurrection
his regen is from the spirits doing it on their own, I would need to look more into it but pretty sure he has better regen
why? he isnt hitting him
great but does it give him massive speed amps continously? cause there is gonna be a time where he just outspeeds ken so hard that he becomes unable to be kept with
he can also dodge stuff from outside of Space-Time, so again Ken isnt hitting him
no he does not. thats something theresia or heck even garfiel and Elsa can do
i am not saying he hits him either but i am saying it would be an incon because ken cant keep him down either
already did
he doesnt need to sense it.
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Why the **** are we even arguing about Reinhard or Reid? They aren't 5-C physically so they do not qualify for 5-C.
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