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Satella VS Asta • (0-0-0)
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So yeah what is Asta's answer to layered madness type 3 instantly affecting him the moment he looks at Satella?
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Satella > All Other Witches Combined > Echidna
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No 30 seconds?
And Echidna's aura didn't necessarily take 30 seconds. The men were immediately induced with madness the instant they were affected by the miasma and took under 30 seconds to kill themselves.
Even if Asta doesn't die immediately, he will have lost all sanity the moment he looks at Satella.
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So it’s a type of aura that drives those who sense it insane?
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And why isn’t Anti Magic negating it?
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So yeah Asta’s passive anti magic negates it.
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Fezzih_007
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Is getting verse equalized either way + is also used for magic so...
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Exactly.
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It is one of the energies that can be used to fuel magic, yes. Magic in BC would equalize to Magic in RZ, not Mana unless there's scans of BC having a similar enough system.
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Mana drain in black clover does the almost the exact same thing as the scan you sent of the effects of mana drain.
Mana in black clover is directly linked to the soul together with body and human spirit.
Mana is defined as a fundamental energy that exists in the world (which is mainly be used for magic.)
So it’s pretty easy to equalize BC mana with most forms of mana in fiction and no they don’t have to be exactly the same to be equalized, they just have to somewhat similar.
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Then that's fine to equalize.
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I'll participate in just a sec, lemme read up on the witch
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She's horrid 
Asta has an answer to physical attack nullification, but BFR? If Asta surrounds himself with destroyer sword anti magic, is she teleporting anti magic with magic?
Asta has an answer to physical attack nullification, but BFR? If Asta surrounds himself with destroyer sword anti magic, is she teleporting anti magic with magic?
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But it's not the end all be all. My vote goes to Asta regardless because of simply the way he fights. He can predict time stop, he's definitely predicting BFR. that's all before he does a black meteorite her, sliceing her apart with slasher katana and ripping her to shreds.
In this fights all Asta would need would be slasher and destroyer sword. Nullifying curse, cause and effect whilst also protecting yourself and negating durability isnt getting beaten in this battle
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It's pretty much implied that BFR and portals only works when Asta unconsciously controls the output of AM, in base form mind you.She's horrid
Asta has an answer to physical attack nullification, but BFR? If Asta surrounds himself with destroyer sword anti magic, is she teleporting anti magic with magic?
Devil Union straight up prevents even his own allies from teleporting him.
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Satella's most broken ability btw is her Immortality, we don't know specifics because she's a mysterious endgame character and the story is currently only half-way finished so far.
What we do know is that it's so potent that several extreme geniuses with beyond-human intellect couldn't conceive of any methods to kill her, and neither Reinhard nor Reid can kill her despite both having really good offensive hax (such as CM & EE).
What we do know is that it's so potent that several extreme geniuses with beyond-human intellect couldn't conceive of any methods to kill her, and neither Reinhard nor Reid can kill her despite both having really good offensive hax (such as CM & EE).
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How does her immorality work? Is it a curse? A spell? Or is she just built like that?
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Again, we don't know the specifics. It is most likely her Authority of Envy though.
The lack of information outside of knowing what can't kill her is why it seems weak on her profile despite being busted.
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He just said it’s mysterious
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That's broken immortallity icl. Kinda reminds me of Yhwach and the bald paintbrush man. Ok, she can still be knocked unconscious though?
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If she can be, it's not easy, since she stalemates Reinhard dspite him having both techniques and hax which knock people out.
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Maybe she just wakes up and continued fighting
Or Reinhard isn’t going to use KO moves at the slightest inconvenience. He also most likely doesn’t consider KO moves as a win otherwise he would’ve used it more often to win fights.
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Since the immortality is unknown the best we can do is treat it like baseline immortality rather than speculate on what it might be and just run with it.
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He does choose KOs any time he wants to deal with someone without killing them.
Her just waking up immediately is a possibility given she can use her magic in dreams & act both physically and in dream at the same time.
No speculation is being done, I'll just point out what we know can't kill her if it comes up.
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I guess that’s fair but I wish we knew more cuz this type of stuff lowkey frustrates me.
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First time?
Zabazab
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The pain of the story literally not being near the endgame...
Technically she herself has never even physically appeared in the story yet lol
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I went to the only scan that describes her immortality. It made it very clear that it’s only based on eternal life. It never says she can’t die through other means.
It’s possible she wasn’t sealed simply because she was just too powerful. It might not have to do with her immortality.
It’s possible she wasn’t sealed simply because she was just too powerful. It might not have to do with her immortality.
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so whats your verdict
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Idk… but I’m willing to equalize immortalities to other witches, if those even have immortality to begin with. If not, then I would “Stella’s immortality isn’t broken unless shown”
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The other witches don't have Immortality.
That's why they died.
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