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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation

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PainKiller07 said:
Now this is a more valid point. But like I said Lindon practically won't be able to touch Konron, not because he lacks the feats of NPI, but the range that is, as I 've said from the beginning. I believe you are quicker on the uptake as a user, you will comprehend the core issue here.
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In terms of the argument for information erasure I feel that the range issue just doesn't apply here because unlike the other aspects of his existence that are provably separate across different dimensions his information simply isn't.

If Lindon erases his Info then his high-godly regen can't actually bring him back leaving him without a means of actually fighting, seems like a straight forwards incap
 
Sonoftanavast9 said:
In terms of the argument for information erasure I feel that the range issue just doesn't apply here because unlike the other aspects of his existence that are provably separate across different dimensions his information simply isn't.

If Lindon erases his Info then his high-godly regen can't actually bring him back leaving him without a means of actually fighting, seems like a straight forwards incap
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agree with this. can't argue the invul that konron has would cover this when there is no proof otherwise
its like affecting a 4th body that konron isn't even aware exist and would indirectly causes the other 3 body to lose an aspect it doesn't know it need
 
Rakih_Elyan said:
In terms of the argument for information erasure I feel that the range issue just doesn't apply here because unlike the other aspects of his existence that are provably separate across different dimensions his information simply isn't.

If Lindon erases his Info then his high-godly regen can't actually bring him back leaving him without a means of actually fighting, seems like a straight forwards incap
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Good point. For now I'm conceding defending Konron, it will take a revision to provide him with sufficient evidence for further arguments.
 
Rakih_Elyan said:
The Way Between World [The Way] in a purely cosmological sense serves as the space between universes[42] which has iterations embedded on itself like fruits on a vine[6] to which it obviously is itself what separates these iterations from one another. The Way[43] is an endless[44] dimension, not in the sense of a place[45] but one beyond an additional direction akin to depth that lays beyond all directions of space[46], reality[47] and time[7][8] such that reality, and in turn the timelines it composes, are simply a thin membrane along the way[48]


The Void is the endless pure lack of existence[77] said to be beyond existence[78] that resides outside the Way itself[79] surrounding it[33] while similarly being beyond additional depth which space peels away from like a wallpaper revealing the "deeper hole" that is the Void[6] beyond all directions of space[46], reality[47] and time[7][8]. The Void constitutes a pure nonexistence[80] and endless chaos[81] which causes the break down the Ways influence wherever it finds a foothold[77].

And Lindon can affect both void and the way. How many dimensions did you think that? More than three obviously. Countless even
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bruh wtf
if Lindon can affect this then he is literally a smurf
 
Low 5-B :
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Hajime VS Ji Ning

Conditions: equalized speed Hajime(last key) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hajime_Nagumo#After-Stories_%E2%96%BE VS Ji Ning(3rd key) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ji_Ning_(Three_Realms) Hajime : Ji Ning : Inconclusive :
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What tier would Godzilla be in? I was thinking of suggesting him for the free spot in 8-C but it says his durability is Town Level so I'm not sure what spot he'd go in
 
EL_xWatcher1234x said:
In Low 5-B:
Does Bai have anything for Hajime, or he just blitz?
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30 layers of passive power nullification and soul/mind destruction, AoE freezing and ice manipulation that works down to the soul, layered curses, sealing, conceptual fire attacks etc.
 
Planck69 said:
30 layers of passive power nullification and soul/mind destruction, AoE freezing and ice manipulation that works down to the soul, layered curses, sealing, conceptual fire attacks etc.
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Hajime has dealt with all of that (not that much layers). them veing passive could be a problem, and magic work on intangible, soul and AE1&2.(NPI in his 1st key)

what is his range?
 
EL_xWatcher1234x said:
Hajime has dealt with all of that (not that much layers). them veing passive could be a problem, and magic work on intangible, soul and AE1&2.(NPI in his 1st key)

what is his range?
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If he can't handle the layers, what's even the point of saying "he once handled them"? The magic isn't an issue for Bai either, it automatically collapses upon contact with him.

This is Core Formation so like, tens of kilometres or so.
 
Planck69 said:
If he can't handle the layers, what's even the point of saying "he once handled them"? The magic isn't an issue for Bai either, it automatically collapses upon contact with him.

This is Core Formation so like, tens of kilometres or so.
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Are those CM2?

There is lots of factors that could affect the match, like his infinite revives and him eventually gaining resistance through his will alone, strong will in the verse could help characters gain resistance to every hax(even layered) in that verse including CM1.

Range will be a problem for Bai if he can't affect AE. Hajime has them inside his pocket dimension and they will show up to help him if something happen.
 
EL_xWatcher1234x said:
Are those CM2?

There is lots of factors that could affect the match, like his infinite revives and him eventually gaining resistance through his will alone, strong will in the verse could help characters gain resistance to every hax(even layered) in that verse including CM1.

Range will be a problem for Bai if he can't affect AE. Hajime has them inside his pocket dimension and they will show up to help him if something happen.
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Cultivators have layered resistance negation, so Hajime isn't gaining anything. He's just constantly getting destroyed while Bai sits around and idk, eventually burns him with conceptual fire. The AE isn't really an issue at all.

And no CM Type 2 doesn't matter here as much as you think it does. I feel like the verse got CM and people ran it into the ground beyond what it's used for, considering I heard conceptual Dimensional Travel as an unironic argument.

As for the concept type for the flame, likely Type 1 given Daos are the foundation of cultivation. But its something I do need to formally sort out when I finish revising the series.
 
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Hajime VS Bai Xiaochun

Hajime(last key) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hajime_Nagumo#After-Stories_%E2%96%BE VS Bai Xiaochun(third key) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Bai_Xiaochun_(Heavenspan_Realm) Hajime: Bai Xiaochun: Inconclusive :
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