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He doesn’t have to activate the nonduality right??Li Qiye has to activate those first
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He doesn’t have to activate the nonduality right??Li Qiye has to activate those first
He doesHe doesn’t have to activate the nonduality right??
would he be able to win if speed was unequalHe does
Mate, Lindon simply attacking while simultaneously affecting the way is already an interdimensional feat. The way is a metaphysical dimension that are exist outside the physical one.which doesn't mean he can affect 3 different dimensions simultaneously, that he can interact with all the abstractions Konron contains isn't the core issue here, it is simply the range. I know what Lindon can do my fr, I admit it would take an extremely challenging debate to get Konron to actually defeat Lindon, so I'd say it is now best that they get a draw.
Does Ergen Nascent Soul resist Type 1 concept void manip?Nascent Soul cultivators have 40 layers of passive power nullification, soul/mind destruction, physical pressure, and deconstruction.
Wei never gets a chance to do anything regardless of his regeneration.
Edit: Deconstruction isn't layered at this level but it's still passive.
The type 5 is for the Seven Nights Dao, which he literally still has to activateLi Qiye still have passive aca 5, he should be able to transform. Considering Touhou chars can't interact with Aca 5.
Doesn't have to because he just gets passively yeetedDoes Ergen Nascent Soul resist Type 1 concept void manip?
- Aura (Void Manipulation - Lindons aura as a Dreadgod passively converts the sky in his vicinity to a Void[226])
- Conceptual Void Manipulation (Type 1 - The basis for Lindon's Authority is his connection to the Void Icon, the fundamental concept of nothingness[171], nonexistence and emptiness[170] that manifests as an endless abyss[172] which possesses the inherent power to subtract and remove[140] at a conceptual level beyond literal definitions allowing Lindon to remove anything[173] as long as he can frame it in a way that is in line with the inherent nature of the Icon itself[140])
- Passive Law Manipulation, Passive Transmutation (Macro-Quantum) and Corruption (Type 1 and 2): Hunger madra is a corruption of the natural order of cradle[63] which corrupt everything from souls, natural spirits, animals, humans[64], inanimate objects[65] and even intangible particles like light itself[66] within the presence of a Dreadgod[62] or strong enough sources of hunger aura like Dreadgod weapons[61]
Man, imagine having an active Aca 5 and ND type 2.The type 5 is for the Seven Nights Dao, which he literally still has to activate
No (they resist law and transmutation tho). Again tho, does this aura have to get activated or nah? If nah then both passive each other (power null/soul, body and mind destruction vs void hax). If it does then Ergen kills firstDoes Ergen Nascent Soul resist Type 1 concept void manip?
- Aura (Void Manipulation - Lindons aura as a Dreadgod passively converts the sky in his vicinity to a Void[226])
- Conceptual Void Manipulation (Type 1 - The basis for Lindon's Authority is his connection to the Void Icon, the fundamental concept of nothingness[171], nonexistence and emptiness[170] that manifests as an endless abyss[172] which possesses the inherent power to subtract and remove[140] at a conceptual level beyond literal definitions allowing Lindon to remove anything[173] as long as he can frame it in a way that is in line with the inherent nature of the Icon itself[140])
- Passive Law Manipulation, Passive Transmutation (Macro-Quantum) and Corruption (Type 1 and 2): Hunger madra is a corruption of the natural order of cradle[63] which corrupt everything from souls, natural spirits, animals, humans[64], inanimate objects[65] and even intangible particles like light itself[66] within the presence of a Dreadgod[62] or strong enough sources of hunger aura like Dreadgod weapons[61]
That also Lindon passive, and he can just Regen in another dimension.Doesn't have to because he just gets passively yeeted
Passive.No (they resist law and transmutation tho). Again tho, does this aura have to get activated or nah? If nah then both passive each other (power null/soul, body and mind destruction vs void hax). If it does then Ergen kills first.
His passives are either resisted or don't have enough range (because the profile doesn't give a range and we have no reason to presume it extends to 4km) and even if it did it would get power nulled, also scans on that last bit because the profile says jack about thatThat also Lindon passive, and he can just Regen in another dimension.
Aura that is resisted, and the other thing that doesn't really have reason to be offensive, or useful in this contextPassive.
Under lord and above have passive aura.
Wait, that void stuff isn't even in his 5-C key?His passives are either resisted or don't have enough range (because the profile doesn't give a range and we have no reason to presume it extends to 4km) and even if it did it would get power nulled, also scans on that last bit because the profile says jack about that
Aura that is resisted, and the other thing that doesn't really have reason to be offensive, or useful in this context
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Also imagine posting something for his low 5-B key for his 5-C key
Lmao, his aura is a type 1 void CM. Even Planck said Ergen guys have jack shit resistance against it.His passives are either resisted or don't have enough range (because the profile doesn't give a range and we have no reason to presume it extends to 4km) and even if it did it would get power nulled, also scans on that last bit because the profile says jack about that
Aura that is resisted, and the other thing that doesn't really have reason to be offensive, or useful in this context
We are discussing Low 5-b.Wait, that void stuff isn't even in his 5-C key?
?????Wei Shi Lindon can be the same rank as the Ergenverse 5-C.
This Chinaman hax should be enough to at least beat Arifureta 5-C and incap Konron I think.
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Forgive me if I forget this.His passives are either resisted or don't have enough range (because the profile doesn't give a range and we have no reason to presume it extends to 4km
Dementia momentMy apologies, I realize that Lindon can't take Ergen spot from 5-C. But he can beat Konron. What I want to discuss is Low 5-B spot.
Fr, what overwork can do to you.Dementia moment
She has passive plot manipulation based defense. If they can get past that, then yeah.Speaking of which, maybe I'm blind but I'm not seeing anything on Kagami's profile that stops the wall of passives from Ergen.
So, how does it work? "The story says she's immortal", "Plot makes her uninteractible" or?She has passive plot manipulation based defense. If they can get past that, then yeah.
If she can imagine it, then it's negated. Either outright or by the attack missing.So, how does it work? "The story says she's immortal", "Plot makes her uninteractible" or?
How does this work on a passive aura?If she can imagine it, then it's negated. Either outright or by the attack missing.
K, I still have no idea how it doesn't get nulledForgive me if I forget this.
Hundreds kilometers range aura. It is already covered in range section with (other techniques).
Given the scan in question literally shows someone just, existing in it fine, and before you try to say to say that doing that gives you resistance to void manip, no it doesn't, just existing in a void doesn't give you resistance to void manipLmao, his aura is a type 1 void CM. Even Planck said Ergen guys have jack shit resistance against it.
An Aura that extend to sky is absolutely beyond 4km.
Negates it passively.How does this work on a passive aura?
It is not existing in it, Lindon literally make his enemies disappear in his mere presence. And his Dreadgod Aura is infused with his Void authority. Markuth (the guy that witnessed the scan below) is outside Lindon aura, not existing within it.K, I still have no idea how it doesn't get nulled
Given the scan in question literally shows someone just, existing in it fine, and before you try to say to say that doing that gives you resistance to void manip, no it doesn't, just existing in a void doesn't give you resistance to void manip
1) I meant the Underlord and Dreadgod auras would get nulledIt is not existing in it, Lindon literally make his enemies disappear in his mere presence. And his Dreadgod Aura is infused with his Void authority. Markuth (the guy that witnessed the scan below) is outside Lindon aura, not existing within it.
It doesn't get nulled cause it is a type 1 concept, it is his Void authority.
And a monarch can resist another monarch authority.
His Aura is infused with Void authority.1) I meant the Underlord and Dreadgod auras would get nulled
2) You are just misreading that scan, it describes it like he is in the scan, because he literally describes seeing the sky above him being swallowed in a void
Given the scan in question literally shows someone just, existing in it fine, and before you try to say to say that doing that gives you resistance to void manip, no it doesn't, just existing in a void doesn't give you resistance to void manip
It should be pointed out in the Li Markuth scan that Lindon actually doesn't want to kill him outright because instead he wants to toy with him and his power in the scenes start is actually sealed (story reasons he had his power sealed at the start) and as you can see in the scan you quoted he says "He could feel power from the Wei clan grand elder now" which was Lindon bypassing the seal a bit to induce his effect to prevent Li Markuth from flying away/out of bounds of the "game" he wanted to force him to play1) I meant the Underlord and Dreadgod auras would get nulled
2) You are just misreading that scan, it describes it like he is in the scan, because he literally describes seeing the sky above him being swallowed in a void
I already explained why Lindon couldn't affect Konron with his range, those feats included. If you read very carefully then you'd know that Konron's multi-dimensional physiology requires 3 dimensions being affected at the same time, not two.Mate, Lindon simply attacking while simultaneously affecting the way is already an interdimensional feat. The way is a metaphysical dimension that are exist outside the physical one.
He also have interdimensional range with his authority, Lindon can just sense Konron in different dimensions and hit him with CM 1 void manip.
And also this from Konron page.
allowing them to perfectly regenerate from the space-time/historical as well as any other less abstract erasure than their concepts type 1
He can't regenerate his eternal atom, which is type 1 concept that exist beyond the physical reality and one that Lindon can destroy.
And this from Sage Lindon physiology.
Konron still can't regen his type 1 concept, even his profile says so.I already explained why Lindon couldn't affect Konron with his range, those feats included. If you read very carefully then you'd know that Konron's multi-dimensional physiology requires 3 dimensions being affected at the same time, not two.
The dmg transferal ability works on different copies of Dross himself, pretty much shadow clone jutsu. Konron's dimensionally distinguished bodies on different planes of existence is a whole other kettle of fish
Lindon can't touch said conceptual aspect of Konron so what's the point? The stuff you mentioned are correct, though factually they aren't relevant to the debate to begin withKonron still can't regen his type 1 concept, even his profile says so.
What Lindon need is to hit that concept and Konron is done for, I will make a match if you want.
And what the difference between Konron multidimensional existence and Lindon interdimensional range authority?
And you didn't even address my points about his unregenable type 1 concept
He can reach the conceptual aspect of Konron. Bro, what are you smoking on?Lindon can't touch said conceptual aspect of Konron so what's the point? The stuff you mentioned are correct, though factually they aren't relevant to the debate to begin with
At this stage I'd just be repeating my point. So I will say it the final time, How many dimensions Lindon able to affect at once? I'm not even saying Lindon doesn't have interD range, just that it isn't substantialHe can reach the conceptual aspect of Konron. Bro, what are you smoking on?
- Information Manipulation (Type 2) and Conceptual Destruction (Type 1): Monarchs can erase targets at a conceptual level to a degree that is lethal even to Dreadgods before the death of Subject One[122] which required destroying the origin of their existence[123] which is the very essence that defines them[55] that exists separately from them within the metaphysical record storage system of the Way[124]
- Origin [Origin of Existence/Existence] - The Origin of a beings existence is the fundamental essence that defines them which exists separately from them as a record within the metaphysical record storage system of the Way itself. The origin serves to define who a person is on a fundamental level and who they are recognized to be by the Way and thus all its components.
- Non-Physical Interaction (Conceptual [Type 1], Spatial, Abstract [Thought], and Spiritual): A Sages will can reach beyond reality to interact with concepts
Why in all of God holy names that Lindon can't interact with this?
allowing them to perfectly regenerate from the space-time/historical as well as any other less abstract erasure than their concepts type 1),
"Aren't relevant" my ass, you literally said that Konron exist in multidimensional space. And that Lindon lacking interdimensional range to interact with it.
And I tell you that in fact, Lindon have interdimensional range and cosmic awareness to deal with Konron multidimensional existence.
And you saying that "Aren't relevant"?
Reread your post.
I'm tired of this shit.
Now this is a more valid point. But like I said Lindon practically won't be able to touch Konron, not because he lacks the feats of NPI, but the range that is, as I 've said from the beginning. I believe you are quicker on the uptake as a user, you will comprehend the core issue here.I feel like the more pressing thing to talk about in this Konron argument is the fact that that Konron doesn't have any resistance to information manipulation, a means of regeneration after his information is erased and his fundamental information isn't separate from his being like his other aspects are.
High-Godly is only applicable to the erasure of whatever specific fundamental aspects you have it for while Lindons Erasure also affects fundamental information which Konron has no resistance to nor means of regenerating if it were to be destroyed.
He only need to destroy the ******* eternal atom. Not to attack Konron in all dimensions.At this stage I'd just be repeating my point. So I will say it the final time, How many dimensions Lindon able to affect at once?
Lindon can't touch said conceptual aspect of Konron so what's the point?
He only need to affect Konron Eternal Atom. And Konron is done for.He can reach the conceptual aspect of Konron. Bro, what are you smoking on?
- Information Manipulation (Type 2) and Conceptual Destruction (Type 1): Monarchs can erase targets at a conceptual level to a degree that is lethal even to Dreadgods before the death of Subject One[122] which required destroying the origin of their existence[123] which is the very essence that defines them[55] that exists separately from them within the metaphysical record storage system of the Way[124]
- Origin [Origin of Existence/Existence] - The Origin of a beings existence is the fundamental essence that defines them which exists separately from them as a record within the metaphysical record storage system of the Way itself. The origin serves to define who a person is on a fundamental level and who they are recognized to be by the Way and thus all its components.
- Non-Physical Interaction (Conceptual [Type 1], Spatial, Abstract [Thought], and Spiritual): A Sages will can reach beyond reality to interact with concepts
BumpWhy is Toneri Otsutsuki still occupying the ninth spot in Low 5-B, and what puts minato in no.10?