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Top 10 stands excluding MiH, GER and Love Train

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If we remove those 2 stands.

Please, name the 10 strongest stands in the series. Listing reasons if possible.

Not neessarily AP wise.

Thoughts?

1. Heaven's Door.

2. King Crimson.

3. Weather Report.

4.Tusk Act 4

5.Metallica

6. Star Platinum/The World

7. Killer Queen

8. Whitesnake

9. Cream

10. The Hand
 
Not necessarily in this order, some OP stands are D4C Love Train, King Crimson, Heaven's Door, ZA WARUDO/Star Platinum, Notorious BIG, Heavy Weather, Tusk 4, Cream/ZA HANDO, Whitesnake and Killer Queen.
 
6 and 7 can be switched, because it depends on the mindset of the user.

10. The Hand (Existence erasure Stand that is greatly hampered by the stupidity of its user)

9. Whitesnake (Mind and dream hax plus power nullification and power bestowal. Fast enough to blitz an unaware Jotaro)

8. Killer Queen (Guaranteed insta-kill on contact, plus heat-seeking sub-Stand that also insta-kills if it connects. Under certain circumstances, Bites the Dust is nearly unbeatable. Kira only lost because of a gigantic series of unfortunate events)

7. Star Platinum/The World (Some of the strongest physical Stands that can stop time. Enough said)

6. Metallica (The most underrated Stand in the entire series. The only reason Nero lost was because he was fighting an ability that hard countered his attacks, and he still almost beat Doppio. If you don't have precognition, good luck surviving attacks from Nero)

5. Tusk Act 4 (Is one of two Stands capable of bypassing Love Train. Why is it not number 2? Because the projectiles can be dodged and it's incredibly difficult to pull off, and if the horse Johnny has dies, then he can't use it. WR snails, King Crimson skips the projectile, and Rohan thinks)

4. Weather Report (One of, if not the most versatile Stand abilities in the entire series. Can manipulate weather on any scale, including microclimates precise enough to play a piano with raindrops. And let's not forget Heavy Weather, which can potentially yield a 6-C feat and has passive social influencing (which by the way is the most extreme and strongest version of social influencing in the entire site I think)

3. King Crimson (Probably the strongest Stand physically from Parts 1-6 and has the best time hax in the entire series. Nigh-invincible in a one-on-one fight, and was only defeated by an even bigger BS ability like GER)

2. Heaven's Door (Thought based transmutation and information manipulation that branches into mind, morality, memory, and even fate hax)

1. D4C Love Train (Probably should've restricted this as well since this is better than MIH. Can only be bypassed by some secret trick involving a horse and golden ratios which leaves out 99% of the entire JoJo Stands. Passive probabtility manipulation plus paradoxical existence erasure that negates durability. Of course, if Love Train is restricted D4C would still be on the list but much lower)
 
Marilyn Manson is kinda broken. It can read minds (including things that the target may not even recall or know they know), can't be harmed even by Stands or the target's allies if the conditions are met. Can phase things like organs out of a person, and doesn't seem to have a set range.

It's one of the few Stands to truly have Invulnerability and can do shit like phase someone's heart out as a normal thing it does.
 
Oh,I thought it was obv that Love train was restricted as it is basically someone helping D4C.

Consider it restricted.
 
>Because the projectiles can be dodged

About Act 4, they actually can't be dodged, if you dodge the bullet, it'll 180 and home in on your ass, it'll never go away unless it hits the intended target. Diego managed to dodge it but it just went and turned around and got him in anyway, forcing Diego to cut off his own leg. You can't dodge Act 4 without losing a limb basically, and that's if you're expecting it, if not you're probably ******.
 
I guess the only person that can actually dodge is Diavolo then. I also think Weather Report and Heaven's Door haxstomp Johnny before he shoots because one is passive and one is thought-based.
 
It's good but super situational. If it had the power to force sleep as well like Chariot or Whitesnake it'd be broken, but it can't, and you have to be in close proximity of the user for it to be able to enter your dream.
 
Also we including secondary and non-canon Stands? Because TWOH, SPOH, Das Boot, Novel KQ and D4CU, Memory of Jet, Dark Mirage and House of Holy are good.
 
Silver chariot requiem would be top tier if it could be controlled, or at least tried to harm opponents.

City range sleep + soul manip would give it/the owner the chance to just cut the throat of anyone while they are asleep. Assuming it can change wich soul gets swapped by wich, he could just switch the opponent's soul with a plant or a bug and destroy it.

Not to mention any stand that tries to attack it will turn against it's user, making it effectively invincible unless the other guy has like, a machine gun or something.

Doubt they'd get a chance to figure out the trick
 
Non canon stands are banned.

Those are basically OP versions of canon stands.
 
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