Top 10 Hottest Fire users on the wiki

[Spinoirr]

Rules

• List the heat of their fire in Celsius
• Prove that their fire is actually that hot
• anyone who scales to the same level of heat is tied with the person in that spot

1. Human Torch (Planck Temperature, 1.417e32 Degree Celsius)
2. EX Zetton (100 Trillion Degree Celsius)
3. Firelord (Above Supernovas, 1 Billion Degree Celsius)
4. Characters from Tensei Slime (Several Hundred Million [At least 300 Million] Degree Celsius)
5. x792 onwards Natsu Dragneel (Far above 200 Million Degree Celsius)
6. Cole MacGrath (Above 100 Million Degree Celsius)
7. Phoenix Force (100 Million Degree Celsius)
8. Bankai Yamamoto (15 Million Degree Celsius)
9. Characters from Saint Seiya (Above 1 Million Degree Celsius)
10

 

[Quantu]

Although he was amped, Human Torch managed to reach Planck Temperature, which is basically the opposite of absolute zero. That's 1.417*10^32 Kelvin

 

[Deceived3596]

Natsu Dragneel's fire dramatically scales above 200 Million Degree Celsius in his later forms.

Yamamoto's Bankai generates 15 Million Degree Celsius flames, with 15 Million Degree Celsius being equal to that of the core of the sun.

 

[Imouto-tan]

Rei Ogami's Beelzebub can exceed 1500°C

 

[Quantu]

1500 that's cute

 

[Spinoirr]

Cinder Fall (can melt iron 1,538 °C and melt through a forcefield that can protect weapons from the heat of lava)

 

[Imouto-tan]

1500 that's cute

I assume that means he's not even top 10 material

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Any character that is cosmic-level capable of creating supernovas and the like is automatically above the top 2

 

[Spinoirr]

Any character that is cosmic-level capable of creating supernovas and the like is automatically above the top 2

But they have to be fire users and for the sake of this top 10, anyone who scales to the same level of heat is tied with the person in that spot

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

But they have to be fire users and for the sake of this top 10, anyone who scales to the same level of heat is tied with the person in that spot

Alright

Firelord

He can burn Silver, who survives against supernovas

Yes, idk shit about Marvel but who cares

 

[RoTt35]

The Phoenix Force has the same properties than a solar flare, which can reach temperatures of up to 100 million degrees Kelvin

 

[Peter1129]

Zetton can fire 1 trillion (1兆度) degree fireballs that are stated to be capable of instantly destroying/vaporizing the solar system and its stronger form EX Zetton‘s fireball is 100 trillion (百兆度) degrees.

Celsius is also the unit of measurement that is used in Japan. Also they’ve stated that Absolute Zero is -273 degrees in series so it is confirmed that they use the Celsius unit.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Victini
It can create High 3-A flames, i.e. flames with infinite energy, which would make them infinitely hot as the (internal) energy of flames is proportional to their temperature.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I don't think this is applicable to celcius or anything

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Victini
It can create High 3-A flames, i.e. flames with infinite energy, which would make them infinitely hot as the (internal) energy of flames is proportional to their temperature.

Nah.
We don't consider heat and AP interchangeable

 

[DontTalkDT]

Nah.
We don't consider heat and AP interchangeable

I don't know who "we" is, but if you mean the wiki then you're wrong.
Given, we don't talk about temperature much because it's irrelevant to debates other than being approximately proportional to heat basd AP.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

4D degrees celcius time

 

[Metalballrun]

Rimuru Tempest's (Light Novel) Hell Flare are black flames compressed by a dome-shaped barrier reaching several hundred million degrees (celcius) hot.
Several could mean three or more.

 

[Greenshifter]

I don't know who "we" is, but if you mean the wiki then you're wrong.
Given, we don't talk about temperature much because it's irrelevant to debates other than being approximately proportional to heat basd AP.

Interesting, best to keep this to finite 3D then. Although it'd just come down to strongest 3-A characters since their punches would generate proportional heat. It feels odd that certain very high temperature feats get eclipsed by people's casual punches in the same verse by our logic, which then gets worse if certain very strong characters need protection to move in hot environments.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Interesting, best to keep this to finite 3D then. Although it'd just come down to strongest 3-A characters since their punches would generate proportional heat. It feels odd that certain very high temperature feats get eclipsed by people's casual punches in the same verse by our logic.

I mean, maybe. Mostly think of just strong fire users here. A 3-A flame of small size necessarily needs to pack some extreme temperature.

 

[Greenshifter]

I mean, maybe. Mostly think of just strong fire users here. A 3-A flame of small size necessarily needs to pack some extreme temperature.

Yeah got a point there, there can be exceptions in fiction where heat and physical punches get treated as completely differently but that's case-by-case so.

 

[First_Witch]

Dry Leonhard. I mean, look at him

Oh we are talking about actual temperatur huh

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

She'll likely get bumped off the list but Blaze can produce flames much hotter than 5,500°C due to being able to harm characters that can survive this and her flames become even hotter when she turns super.

 

[Greenshifter]

@DontTalkDT To go further on this, should every character who can take very strong punches get resistance to extreme heat on their page and wouldn't half of these high temperature statements (coupled with relatively small flames being produced) actually contradict the established power level in the verse?

 

[091Franky]

Benimaru, his Hell Flare exceeds several hundred million degrees

Slime uses Celsius for measurement

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Characters from Saint Seiya. Gold Saints can exceed 1 million degrees and Gods can exceed even further

Saint Seiya

Saint Seiya/Knights Of The Zodiac is a manga by Masami Kurumada from 1986 to 1991. It told the story of the Saints, a group of powerful warriors who are sworn to fight as the army of the Goddess Athena. Along the series, they face various Holy Wars against Deities who wish to claim Athena's...

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[Spinoirr]

Alright what's the current list look like now?

 

[KLOL506]

Yeah got a point there, there can be exceptions in fiction where heat and physical punches get treated as completely differently but that's case-by-case so.

Ye but by default we still consider Heat as AP, scaling it to physical punching power is a case-by-case basis, depending on universal energy sources and channeling the flame's power into punching power and so on.

 

[Peter1129]

Alright what's the current list look like now?

No idea if Victini is really infinite degrees for being High 3-A or if the 4D fire stuff even counts so skipping those for now. Counting only the ones that are million or higher

1. Human Torch (Planck Temperature, 1.417e32 Degree Celsius)
2. EX Zetton (100 Trillion Degree Celsius)
3. Firelord (Above Supernovas, 1 Billion Degree Celsius)
4. Characters from Tensei Slime (Several Hundred Million [At least 300 Million] Degree Celsius)
5. x792 onwards Natsu Dragneel (Far above 200 Million Degree Celsius)
6. Cole MacGrath (Above 100 Million Degree Celsius)
7. Phoenix Force (100 Million Degree Celsius)
8. Bankai Yamamoto (15 Million Degree Celsius)
9. Characters from Saint Seiya (Above 1 Million Degree Celsius)
10.

Since it seems like this thread might allow multiple characters from a series whenever someone makes Noa’s profile we could probably add him to third as his Noa Inferno is 1 Trillion Degree Celsius. Although if I my guess is correct the original raw for the Tensei Slime’s Hell Flare likely said 数億 which could more often means Hundreds of Millions rather than Several Hundred Million. This would mean it’s actually 200 Million Degree Celsius at minimum not 300 Million Degree Celsius at minimum.

 

[Greenshifter]

Is Planck Temperature the actual counter to AZ or is that some bs made up by fiction?

 

[Spinoirr]

Is Planck Temperature the actual counter to AZ or is that some bs made up by fiction?

It's actually real

 

[Greenshifter]

I am well aware that it is real. But Human Torch’s scan had him using Planck Temperature to cancel out AZ, I’m asking if this has a scientific basis. Btw that move seemed to have an effect on the multiverse so eh 4D heat feat?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

big bangs that is realistic theoretically should reach this temperature as far I know

 

[Spinoirr]

I am well aware that it is real. But Human Torch’s scan had him using Planck Temperature to cancel out AZ, I’m asking if this has a scientific basis. Btw that move seemed to have an effect on the multiverse so eh 4D heat feat?

Actually he is canceling out dooms reality warping with it

 

[091Franky]

Although if I my guess is correct the original raw for the Tensei Slime’s Hell Flare likely said 数億 which could more often means Hundreds of Millions rather than Several Hundred Million. This would mean it’s actually 200 Million Degree Celsius at minimum not 300 Million Degree Celsius at minimum.

No idea about wn raw but ln yen press tl also has used several million as well

 

[Propellus]

DCEU Superman's Heat Vision can go up to temperatures around 3.5M kelvin

 

[Peter1129]

It's actually real

Hottest Hot and Coldest Cold yet we’ve got stuff in fiction that are below Absolute Zero. Not even gonna be surprised if some fictional characters goes above Planck Temperature somewhere in the future.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

90% of the characters that have a temperature above absolute zero are wrong to qualify ngl. Like, just as we don't assume that a character moving at MFTL speed is capable of destroying the universe, we shouldn't say that a character that reaches -300 degrees has the property of stopping all atoms without showing any feat

 

[Peter1129]

I know but like I’m just saying how fiction has these ridiculous stuff that go beyond actual possible stuff. Like didn’t Saint Seiya also have like some statement about going hundreds of times below Absolute Zero temperature and all that stuff as well?

 

[Greenshifter]

Ultimate Big Chill and some machine in Pre-Crisis Flash comics can go below AZ.