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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation

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He is though?

Sacred Power is a transformation that affects both his AP, SS and Durability.

Also base Asta got his 5-C key because he managed to damage Lucius in the first place.
It says on his profile
up to 5-C with Devil Power
Lucius is High 6-A physically
 
🗿lets ask a staff member
Go ahead

Another example: Meliodas is literally in the 6-A spot despite his base being High 6-B at best

What Matters is whether you are X tier in both AP and Dura at the same time, the other ratings do not matter
 
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Go ahead

Another example: Meliodas is literally in the 6-A spot despite his base being High 6-B at best

What Matters is whether you are X tier in both AP and Dura at the same time, the other ratings do not matter
bro that has to be outdated because Reinhard for example was recently removed form the 5-C list as he isn't 5-C physically

he has almost the exact same thing as Lucius
it says on his profile that he is 5-C with Dragon Sword Reid
And Lucius is 5-C with Devil Power

the reason why Asta qualifies for the 5-C list is because his profile says "At most 5-C", not something like, "5-C with devil union" or something
the "at most 5-C" part means he is actually physically 5-C. He doesn't need other stuff to get the 5-C rating
 
bro that has to be outdated because Reinhard for example was recently removed form the 5-C list as he isn't 5-C physically

he has almost the exact same thing as Lucius
it says on his profile that he is 5-C with Dragon Sword Reid
And Lucius is 5-C with Devil Power

the reason why Asta qualifies for the 5-C list is because his profile says "At most 5-C". Not something like, "5-C with devil union" or something
My brother in christ

Reinhard is only 5-C using a tool independent from his physiology. Reinhard doesn't even have 5-C Dura, let alone granted by his sword.

Devil Power IS part of Lucius's physiology, that's like Super Sayain to the sayains. This gives him 5-C on both AP and Dura, unlike ginger man
 
Lucius has 5-C with devil power, that's all that matters. Iirc we allow characters with amps to be a certain tier as long as they are physically that strong.

In conclusion, the dude qualifies for that tier. Otherwise we would've booted a bunch of characters from the list.
 
Lucius has 5-C with devil power, that's all that matters. Iirc we allow characters with amps to be a certain tier as long as they are physically that strong.

In conclusion, the dude qualifies for that tier. Otherwise we would've booted a bunch of characters from the list.
bro why do you think Asta is in the 5-C list instead of Lucius
 
Precog doesn't even matter tbh
Having precognition doesn't change anything, the point is that Kenshiro will know he's in danger and Lucius having better precognition doesn't stop Kenshiro from seeing the future.
Lucius is fast enough to blitz Ken's reactions. And Lucius's soul manip doesn't actively harm you, he orders you through your soul.
Kenshiro resists mind manipulation so all that will happen when Lucius uses soul manipulation is that Kenshiro will gain stats boost, a Holy Magic, Devil physiology and a bunch of hax and resistances that come from mana. He will become a paladin who is not mind controlled.

and one of Kenshiro's first moves is to increase his Ki and that's a whole blitz in speed.
 
bro why do you think Asta is in the 5-C list instead of Lucius
Asta is on the list since a match between him and Hagoromo was made and concluded, that wasn't the case with Lucius until recently. If Lucius is 5-C with amps, and this scales to his Striking Strength physically, he's fine.
 
Having precognition doesn't change anything, the point is that Kenshiro will know he's in danger and Lucius having better precognition doesn't stop Kenshiro from seeing the future.
That doesn't matter because by the time Kenshiro sees the future, he will be frozen in time, not able to do a thing.
Kenshiro resists mind manipulation so all that will happen when Lucius uses soul manipulation is that Kenshiro will gain stats boost, a Holy Magic, Devil physiology and a bunch of hax and resistances that come from mana. He will become a paladin who is not mind controlled.
Lucius puts an order into your soul, mind manip resistance hardly matters here.

And no, the Devil Power and power of Paladins are not automatically gained the moment he touches his soul.
Not only that, Lucius cannot granting anyone Mana, if Ken doesn't have innate Mana to begin with he won't be able to use any power that Lucius may grant him (assuming he's even dumb enough to do so).
Kenshiro would just end up being possessed and corrupted by a devil, if anything.

Lucius can also just knock him out by touching his soul too, or just one shot him via the AP difference.
The point is, the moment time is stopped, Kenshiro cannot think, thus cannot activate any techniques.
That gives Lucius many choices to beat him (And the guy can see 20 thousands futures so he can't even pick a bad option by mistake)
and one of Kenshiro's first moves is to increase his Ki and that's a whole blitz in speed.
Increasing ki would take more time than Lucius stopping time. And again, in-verse speed blitzes are irrelevant when it comes to cross-verse matches.
 
yeah bro Lucius is 5-C WITH devil power

whats ur opinion on this
do you think Lucius is physically 5-C
Multipliers that physically enhance a character to a different tier are allowed to be used for that character's placement in that tier (I.E. If you have a character that is normally 9-B, but through enhancements is capable of reaching 9-A, they would be allowed in both 9-B and 9-A respectively). Characters also must be physically in the tier they're being requested to place in. This means having Striking Strength on that level.

Just read the OP next time, bro
 
Well, I figured it would have been less contentious, but I'll make the match in my free time
 
Ken while in MT doesn’t have a Soul or even a mind for that matter, so Soul Manip ain’t gonna do anything.

Did I forget to mention Ken’s destiny cannot be read?
 
Ken while in MT doesn’t have a Soul or even a mind for that matter, so Soul Manip ain’t gonna do anything.

Did I forget to mention Ken’s destiny cannot be read?
there is new info that MT isn't automatic but activates unconsciously which surpasses Kenshiro's perception speed if that changes anything
 
Ken while in MT doesn’t have a Soul or even a mind for that matter, so Soul Manip ain’t gonna do anything.
We been there already. Thought based time stop versus activation based mt
Did I forget to mention Ken’s destiny cannot be read?
Once again, Lucius doesn't even need precog, and regardless that doesn't stop Lucius from looking into his own future.
 
We been there already. Thought based time stop versus activation based mt

Once again, Lucius doesn't even need precog, and regardless that doesn't stop Lucius from looking into his own future.
Ken doesn't even need to think to activate MT at all? It's as close as to passive that you can get considering Kenshiro's perception speed.

Any signs of danger (like an insane power difference, because Moon level+ VS Moon level is a crazy difference considering Ken is barely above baseline, like around 31 Exatons) is a very clear sign of danger because Ken can also sense other auras.
 
Ok, so the TTSDK verse has some editing scandals and the pages are being reviewed to see if Jozay made any other edits that were not really approved by staff, so until then I feel that any people from the verse (such as Rimuru) should be for now removed from the lists.
 
Ok, so the TTSDK verse has some editing scandals and the pages are being reviewed to see if Jozay made any other edits that were not really approved by staff, so until then I feel that any people from the verse (such as Rimuru) should be for now removed from the lists.
First of all, this is an issue that has the potential to only concern the Light Novel continuity and a single game profile, the Web Novel continuity has nothing to do with it, also this is an issue related to a newly created character profile. There is no proof that this has happened in other threads or affected other character profiles.
 
First of all, this is an issue that has the potential to only concern the Light Novel continuity and a single game profile, the Web Novel continuity has nothing to do with it, also this is an issue related to a newly created character profile. There is no proof that this has happened in other threads or affected other character profiles.
They said that they will look through all the profiles in that verse that could possibly be affected and report back if there is any tomfoolery.

If y'all want to wait that's fine.
 
They said that they will look through all the profiles in that verse
Why should the profiles of all the verse be checked just because there is corruption in a thread and content that the staff does not accept is added to a profile? The case here is to check Jozay's created threads to see if he has done something similar with other threads.
 
Why should the profiles of all the verse be checked just because there is corruption in a thread and content that the staff does not accept is added to a profile? The case here is to check Jozay's created threads to see if he has done something similar with other threads.
Because apparently the staff think that Jozay may have done this with other profiles/revisions.
 
This thread is abandoned, someone needs to start a new one lol
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