Yeah, alright. I've deleted that post. A lot of things claimed exit the territory of missing things or being mistaken (eg; "the game is 2D therefore every attack is also 2D and dodging them isn't impressive") though, so it's not exactly easy to give the benefit of the doubt.
i have no idea what linking that will even acheive but i'd appreciate it if you actually read the argument
uhh
Thank you.
well then, now i feel like an idiot,
Yea, I know that much. My problem is that Sora only does all the fancy dodging and deflecting when he's with Riku, but when he's alone, he just kinda... stands there. So the KH3(?) feat is not that impressive because Sora doesn't do a whole lot, while the KH2 feat is rendered less impressive by Riku doing half the work (it's still a cool feat, though).
We aren't exactly denying that something happened or that characters are capable of a certain feat according to their series. The main point is if it actually qualifies as skill for the purposes of the wiki which would be independent from whether or not it is said to be or treated as skill in that series.
What do you mean by this? It isn't very clear.
you are just coping.
Avoid these. There is 0 necessity for this comment. It adds nothing to the debate, besides provoking opposition.
The automatic part seems to be a gameplay thing since Sora does seem to move to some degree and the projectiles all come from multiple directions and are unlikely to simply happen to hit Sora's Keyblade, so he's presumably moving it accordingly to the projectiles. It may seem less fancy compared to KHII but less moving across distances would be more efficient stamina usage in a fight to begin with.
If the Danmakus were all 2D like Bobsican suggested, then abilities that allow for 3D movement like Flight would allow for easy dodging for something like that which appears to indeed be the case here which is a strong point against the argument he put forth.
That's hardly his only feat though? Have you forgotten Sora's Intelligence section? There does seem to be an indication though paying attention to all of that the entire time and memorizing that isn't bad either. The same indication isn't present in KHII.
That's not a good response.
They have too many of unnecessary comments in the previous page, including a tier comparison out of nowhere, lmao.
He's agreeing with you guys.
I don't see any contradiction?
The moving is just the lasers pushing him back, I feel. Him blocking it like that is... weird, but his profile does say his blocking extends to short area around him so that's what I was working off of.
Oh yeah, I know that, I'm just not as confident in the rest of his feats if the laser dome one had so much missing context. The tells, the lack of getting one-shot as was previously claimed, the KH3 version not being nearly as impressive, etc. KH2 works as a feat, I just think it's not as impressive as Bob claims, since Riku is there and also deflecting the lasers. It's still a very impressive feat, though.
You... really should have read that more carefully. He did make a legitimately good point about 2D danmaku and how flight would just neg it entirely.
it was a joke.
Aaaaand that's grace!
The radius around Sora while blocking is something that I didn't consider though he has already proven to be capable of tracking and deflecting individual projectiles from that attack in KHII though the approach Sora takes here seems to be different.The moving is just the lasers pushing him back, I feel. Him blocking it like that is... weird, but his profile does say his blocking extends to short area around him so that's what I was working off of.
Oh yeah, I know that, I'm just not as confident in the rest of his feats if the laser dome one had so much missing context. The tells, the lack of getting one-shot as was previously claimed, the KH3 version not being nearly as impressive, etc. KH2 works as a feat, I just think it's not as impressive as Bob claims, since Riku is there and also deflecting the lasers. It's still a very impressive feat, though.
I mean
I'm generally just answering the points that are being brought up. The only thing I have to add right now is that Mad Dog of Fujiwara shouldn't be surprised if people begin to question everything regarding Touhou due to comments of just suddenly questioning everything about Kingdom Hearts or any other verse for that matter, so that kind of thing is just not good.
Hey, I'm not questioning everything in KH. Haven't bothered to look too deep into the stats or abilities, but they seem mostly fine from what little I know. I simply don't have the energy to try and downgrade another huge verse right now, nor do I even particularly care in this case, so I wouldn't worry about it.
You certainly seemed to do that for at least the skill-related parts of Kingdom Hearts which is what was being discussed for the verse in this thread. The possibility of a downgrade depends on whether or not it would even be justified and the only way I see that happening is if something is wrong with our understanding of the cosmology and the scaling. There is more room for interpretation for the abilities but there tend to be some connections to the cosmology and scaling as well, so I wouldn't count on it.
Feats of dodging rain occur in canon from time to time to show how impossibly fast or impossibly skilled people are at dodging. An infamous example is Archie Sonic managing to run through a rainstorm, dodge every drop of rain in it and come out completely dry. Dante and Vergil in DMC also have an infamous feat of cutting every drop of rain in a large radius surrounding them. Physically possible? No. But still a feat of skill nonetheless.
no please explain them in the form of a gangnam style parody video (i don't know to to read)
