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[GyroNutz]

>Atomic Samurai is pretty fearless and doesn't have any good AP feats

Neither do Genos or MB. And since you said this later on, Genos didn't harm Fuhrer Ugly at all with his kick, FU tanked it completely and it barely budged him. We know via statements like AS being the best backup member that he is somewhat comparable to the HA's top heroes (not counting Tats or Blast) which Genos and MB obviously don't come near to.

>okay and? I'm sure Bruce Lee is more skilled than Saitama, doesn't mean Bruce Lee would win.

Uh, what? The power difference between AS and MB/Genos, if there even is any (which there likely isn't) is nowhere near the difference between Bruce Lee and Saitama. False equivalency. If anything, think about the fight between Garou and Saitama, where Garou initially was countering all of Saitama's advances via pure skill until Saitama got more serious. Or when Garou was fighting MB, and despite MB's increases in speed and power, Garou was able to counter each of MB's swings due to his amateur-ish fighting style. You can't say that because Saitama beats skilled fodder that power > skill.

>No, he's not, they're both extremely simple, do you not remember Melzagard...

>No, he didn't, this is blatant dishonesty, Atomic Samurai was getting ****** by Black Sperm the entire fight

First of all, chill. Second of all, you've read the manga AS vs BS fight, right? In it, AS not only atomic slash'd thousands of BS at once while only being hit a couple of times himself, but tactically gained some distance to use his new technique, which he explicitly developed after only being able to slash through melzargard, to cut apart BS completely. In fact, AS only got knocked down by a surprise hit and was still able to trade a hit and escape the fight. On the other hand, Genos blasted a black sperm who was attacking Tatsumaki and paying no attention to him, then got ripped apart by another Black Sperm.

Genos being able to fight after having his arm ripped off is more to do with his cyborg physiology, and stamina hardly matters when AS will be able to finish off a fight far quicker than Genos or Metal Bat would. And iirc Genos had all his parts intact before going up to the surface, so you can't really say he was weakened.

 

[Udlmaster]

>Neither do Genos or MB.

What? Genos has plenty of feats, he literally one of the most featured characters with the most feats.

Metal Bat actually has some decent feats like fighting Garou, Elder Centipede, Carnage Cabuto and such.

>And since you said this later on, Genos didn't harm Fuhrer Ugly at all with his kick, FU tanked it completely and it barely budged him.

Yes, he did, Furher Ugly even said "You ******..." and had blood drawn from him when he got kicked, you obviously didn't read the chapter, which is Chapter 71 page 3 where Furher Ugly gets kicked in the face and blood shoots off from him, so no, he didn't yank it at all.

>We know via statements

Im not even gonna address the rest of this point because it's based on a terrible foundation, statements about Heroes in the Hero association mean nothing, do I need to bring up King? How he has more statements about him yet are all shown to be false, you can't scale anyone to statements because the people on the verse don't know how powerful they even are.

Atomic Samurai himself thought King was a better swordsman than him, which is blatantly not true.

>You can't say that because Saitama beats skilled fodder that power > skill.

Let's make another analogy since you're taking the previous analogy seriously, Genos vs Garou.

Genos was stomping Garou until Bang and Bomb showed up, with Garou barely standing, and before you say "Well he was weakened" Garou has battle spirit, which means he gets STRONGER and FASTER the more pumped up, and he got demolished by Genos, and Genos is a pure power fighter as he states to Saitama at Bang's dojo "I don't need protection, I need pure power."

> In it, AS not only atomic slash'd thousands of BS at once while only being hit a couple of times himself

Firstly, Atomic Samurai is allowed to gets hits in because Black Sperm likes to assert himself as being better than people, he even boasted about how he cannot be killed conventionally and will infinitely duplicate.

Then, when we come back to Atomic Samurai, he has to trick Black Sperm into an enclosed area and use his strongest attack because he was losing.

Then he got one shot by Black Sperm because he saw through Atomic Samurai's attacks, Atomic Samurai was out of the fight competely then, not even being able to help the other S-Class, so no, Atomic Samurai doesn't scale to Black Sperm and gets Anti-feats from It.

>Genos being able to fight after having his arm ripped off is more to do with his cyborg physiology, and stamina hardly matters when AS will be able to finish off a fight far quicker than Genos or Metal Bat would.

With what AP? Atomic Samurai couldn't cut through G5's core, let alone Genos' G4 upgraded Body.

Atomic Samurai has next to no AP feats, fighting characters who let themselves be cut like Melzagard and Black Sperm due to their healing factor, or fighting characters who only scale to him like the Monster Swordsman.

>And iirc Genos had all his parts intact before going up to the surface, so you can't really say he was weakened.

He was missing one of his arms from Gums, then Black Sperm attacked right after, it was 3 v 1, So definitely weakened.